Stance Coilovers

[FinSX]

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Just heard about this new suspension company called Stance (www.stancesus.com). Anyone using them? I'm interested if those are any good, as they are pretty cheap. What are they like compared to more famed coilovers, such as Tein or Tanabe? And would someone know the country where they manufacture those? (guessing U.S).

I would get Cusco's or Kei Office's coilovers, but can't afford them. (as I don't want to get the cheapest ones)

thanks to all in advance.

[Irukandji]

never heard of them.

if you don't want to spend much you can go for Megans or KTS.

[FinSX]

Originally Posted by n1sm0r

never heard of them.

if you don't want to spend much you can go for Megans or KTS.

No I don't want those. I'm looking for middle class coilovers, like Tein Flex's. Everybody praises Tein, but I'm not so sure if they're up to the hype. But Kei Office would be a excellent choice for sure, just a bit pricier.

[S14DB]

Looks like some Taiwanese re-brands. Can't say that they provide a great deal of info on their site...

[i8yourfwd]

Just go with KTS's somebody said that Tein Flex's aren't even that good (said on zilvia somewhere I think)

This post should help alot:http://www.zilvia.net/f/showpost.php...2&postcount=11

[dori2 s13coupe]

different color KTS coilovers

[DJPimpFlex]

I've said it before and I'll say it again, KTS for the win!

[A Spec Products]

haha i knoooow who stance is

but im not giving out the secret

[S14DB]

Originally Posted by A Spec Products

haha i knoooow who stance is

but im not giving out the secret

Then I will. It's Touge Factory.

[A Spec Products]

Originally Posted by S14DB

Then I will. It's Touge Factory.

Hahah, yeah it was pretty obvious.

I recognized their addy.

[bcrume]

Tein's suck, they are really bad and it's all hype.

zeal/endless - the best there is...
kei office - heard good things but haven't driven with them
Gp Sports - what I would get if I couldn't afford something better.
JIC - They perform well but will break and the ride isn't great.
kts/megan/ksport - all are shit, wouldn't put on my car if they were free.

if you can't afford kei office then you can't afford zeal, so I would look into gp sports or silk road. If you decide to go with gp sports then try to find a shop that has them in stock because I guarantee that if you order it, it will take longer than they say.

[Aldus]

Originally Posted by bcrume

Tein's suck, they are really bad and it's all hype.

zeal/endless - the best there is...
kei office - heard good things but haven't driven with them
Gp Sports - what I would get if I couldn't afford something better.
JIC - They perform well but will break and the ride isn't great.
kts/megan/ksport - all are shit, wouldn't put on my car if they were free.

if you can't afford kei office then you can't afford zeal, so I would look into gp sports or silk road. If you decide to go with gp sports then try to find a shop that has them in stock because I guarantee that if you order it, it will take longer than they say.

Sorry, but ksport and megan and nowhere near KTS.

[Ian]

Originally Posted by bcrume

Tein's suck, they are really bad and it's all hype.

zeal/endless - the best there is...
kei office - heard good things but haven't driven with them
Gp Sports - what I would get if I couldn't afford something better.
JIC - They perform well but will break and the ride isn't great.
kts/megan/ksport - all are shit, wouldn't put on my car if they were free.

if you can't afford kei office then you can't afford zeal, so I would look into gp sports or silk road. If you decide to go with gp sports then try to find a shop that has them in stock because I guarantee that if you order it, it will take longer than they say.

Have you used any of these?

I know none of them are top notch brands...but I can vouch and say that Megan Racing coilovers are of a different breed than K-Sport and D2. Also, KTS is in a completely different realm of quality than K-Sport/D2.

I've compared Megan Racing to Silk Road almost side by side, I actually prefer Megan Racing. (on the track...the Silk Road have a smoother ride on the highway)

[KiDyNomiTe]

Originally Posted by mainevent212

I've compared Megan Racing to Silk Road almost side by side, I actually prefer Megan Racing. (on the track...the Silk Road have a smoother ride on the highway)

I was with dave comparing stance to megan racing, and also compared my silk roads to stance, stance is definately the beefiest and well put together, although I will miss the lower camber bolt...

[krustindumm]

Originally Posted by KiDyNomiTe

I was with dave comparing stance to megan racing, and also compared my silk roads to stance, stance is definately the beefiest and well put together, although I will miss the lower camber bolt...

For the camber bolts, try any autoparts store. I went to o'really's $25/side (~$50 total). They have varying ranges, I got the ones that go up to 2.5* of adjustment.

[KiDyNomiTe]

Originally Posted by krustindumm

For the camber bolts, try any autoparts store. I went to o'really's $25/side (~$50 total). They have varying ranges, I got the ones that go up to 2.5* of adjustment.

Your thinking something else. The silk road has a blt similar to the eccentric bolts, accept its seperate 4 sided sqaurewasher. The coilover has to be slotted also.

Stance although has the bolts offcenter so it acts like it would be on the 3rd highest camber setting on silk roads.

[Irukandji]

Originally Posted by bcrume

Tein's suck, they are really bad and it's all hype.

zeal/endless - the best there is...
kei office - heard good things but haven't driven with them
Gp Sports - what I would get if I couldn't afford something better.
JIC - They perform well but will break and the ride isn't great.
kts/megan/ksport - all are shit, wouldn't put on my car if they were free.

if you can't afford kei office then you can't afford zeal, so I would look into gp sports or silk road. If you decide to go with gp sports then try to find a shop that has them in stock because I guarantee that if you order it, it will take longer than they say.

so have you really driven on these or are you just regurgitating what some actual track drivers have said?

because I can feel some deja vu...
http://www.zilvia.net/f/showthread.p...=tein+jic+zeal
http://www.zilvia.net/f/showthread.p...=tein+jic+zeal


sorry to be offtopic:hammer:

[bcrume]

Originally Posted by n1sm0r

so have you really driven on these or are you just regurgitating what some actual track drivers have said?

because I can feel some deja vu...
http://www.zilvia.net/f/showthread.p...=tein+jic+zeal
http://www.zilvia.net/f/showthread.p...=tein+jic+zeal


sorry to be offtopic:hammer:

I'm speaking of personal experiance, I own a set of zeal function x on my s13 and a set of function v6's on my 350z.

I have personally driven multiple zeal setups, gp sports something 8, jic flta2, kts, megan, ksports, spring/shock setups and many other coilovers on s13's my advice is from personal experiance. Most people don't know what good is because they haven't had the oportunity.

I wasn't trying to start an argument. kts still sucks

[trsilvias13]

Originally Posted by bcrume

I'm speaking of personal experiance, I own a set of zeal function x on my s13 and a set of function v6's on my 350z.

I have personally driven multiple zeal setups, gp sports something 8, jic flta2, kts, megan, ksports, spring/shock setups and many other coilovers on s13's my advice is from personal experiance. Most people don't know what good is because they haven't had the oportunity.

I wasn't trying to start an argument. kts still sucks

i personally experience apexi n1 pro's (top choice, not recommended for DD).
I also try hks hyper-d, bridgestone potenza ers, Tein flex, ksport and KTS.

I think KTS is better than a lot of company. THe only coilover i would choose over KTS is the Apexi n1 pros

[SoSideways]

Even though Stance is just Touge Factory, it doesn't mean they made the stuff.

Kinda reminds me of the old days of Importfan = GP Sports NA.

Importfan didn't make any of the GP Sports parts, but they were repping them here in the states, so I'm only guessing that Stance is just being repped by TF here in the states.

So I'm guessing Dave at TF have tried these and actually deemed these worthy to sell with his business huh? Then these can't be any worse than Megan Racing or D-Drugs.....

[shrug]

[KiDyNomiTe]

I will post a review when I drive on them

[SoSideways]

Originally Posted by KiDyNomiTe

I will post a review when I drive on them

Oh snap now it all makes sense.... so THESE were the top secret coilovers that you kinda told everyone about in the "how low can you go" thread that you wouldn't talk about

You sneaky you... heh

Yeah dude, seriously, let us know how these are, as I am quite interested in these...

[EH9]

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[bcrume]

even if you think they are better than megan and ksport, I still put them in the shit column. You can argue that for the money they are good but I would't waste money on them. I see alot of people on this forum praise them but thats only because they can't afford other stuff or haven't had the chance to experience better suspension systems.

[drift into a curb]

^^ watch out, zeal master.

[Juujai]

elaborate why kts sucks? uncomfortable, underdampened? shitty build quality? i don't think so.

i have cusco zero-2r and have tried zeal super function, zeal b6, kei office xt, megan, kts and some others i can't rememeber at the moment the kts are not shit.

"i heard kei office is good" lol i hear good things about most coilovers on forums... what difference does that make... bs oh yeah and kei office is teh suck right now. no rebuilds/shock replacements at all. they're wacked out right now. i wouldn't recommend them unless you plan to dump em every few years.

i'd recommend kts over any of the other coilovers in the price range. cheap, dampens good, gets LOW, comfortable/harsh when you want it to be.

theres like a billion choices in the 2k range most are kick ass anyway no need for recommendations there. apexi, cusco, zeal, swift, ikeya blah blah all good stuff no doubt. the 4-5k+ stuff is yeah no need to explain either.

[i8yourfwd]

Originally Posted by Juujai

elaborate why kts sucks? uncomfortable, underdampened? shitty build quality? i don't think so.

i have cusco zero-2r and have tried zeal super function, zeal b6, kei office xt, megan, kts and some others i can't rememeber at the moment the kts are not shit.

"i heard kei office is good" lol i hear good things about most coilovers on forums... what difference does that make... bs oh yeah and kei office is teh suck right now. no rebuilds/shock replacements at all. they're wacked out right now. i wouldn't recommend them unless you plan to dump em every few years.

i'd recommend kts over any of the other coilovers in the price range. cheap, dampens good, gets LOW, comfortable/harsh when you want it to be.

theres like a billion choices in the 2k range most are kick ass anyway no need for recommendations there. apexi, cusco, zeal, swift, ikeya blah blah all good stuff no doubt. the 4-5k+ stuff is yeah no need to explain either.

KTS sucks cause he says they suck. He has Zeals and is suspension mastar.:ghey:

/sarcasm

[FinSX]

who sells GP Sports GR-6's? They have also released Gp Sports G Master. I think they are pretty new too. Opinions on them? Silk Road is a bit of a mystery brand to me, never really seen any japanese tuner using them. Pretty popular in the States I guess? Is it an U.S. Brand or Japanese?


I think I'm leaning towards GP Sports or Tanabe Sustec Pro S-S at the moment. What's the advantage of the helper spring that Sus Pro S-S is using, compared to a no helper spring model, S-S II?

[Juujai]

silkroad is made by section which is pretty popular in japan i believe. section makes coilovers for a lot of different companies. gp sports can be bought at many distributors i can't remember the main one but autornd sells gp stuff.

the main things to look for aside from quality/build/price "feature wise" are dual height adjustable, front camber plates and dampening adjustability. the low end tanabes don't have all the functions like the dd/new seven. low end coilovers doesn't mean it isn't good either. just because it's a lower model doesn't mean it's crap. coilovers are basically meant for people that want to get low. if you're looking into the lower end tanabes then koni yellow shocks would be a good choice over that.

if you have a low dollar budget i'd recommend kts coilovers, tanabe sway bars and like some 50 dollar ebay subframe collars over any choice in it's price range.

[FinSX]

Originally Posted by Juujai

silkroad is made by section which is pretty popular in japan i believe. section makes coilovers for a lot of different companies. gp sports can be bought at many distributors i can't remember the main one but autornd sells gp stuff.

the main things to look for aside from quality/build/price "feature wise" are dual height adjustable, front camber plates and dampening adjustability. the low end tanabes don't have all the functions like the dd/new seven. low end coilovers doesn't mean it isn't good either. just because it's a lower model doesn't mean it's crap. coilovers are basically meant for people that want to get low. if you're looking into the lower end tanabes then koni yellow shocks would be a good choice over that.

if you have a low dollar budget i'd recommend kts coilovers, tanabe sway bars and like some 50 dollar ebay subframe collars over any choice in it's price range.

I allready have Koni Yellow Tops and I don't really like them. They are designed to be used with stock lenght springs and as I have lowering springs they don't function the way they are supposed to. At higher speeds the car feels extremely unstable which I find very dangerous. They are stiff though.

Are subframe collars the same as those pineaple rings? If so, I'd rather swap the whole stock bushings to polyurethane ones.

The cheaper Tanabes don't have separate height adjustment' just spring pre-tension adjustment. So if I'd want to change the ride hight, it would also affect the spring pre-tension and that really sucks. Also, I'll definately want the pillowball topmounts and camber plates.

So I'll have to search for more info about the Silk Roads and KTS's. Where are KTS's manufactured? I have to say that I'm a bit sceptical about the KTS's because good quality and price goes hand to hand. Plus a well known Japanese brand is not only very cool, but gives you some assurement about the quality. And I'm affraid many people only say KTS's are good just because they have a set of their own and haven't tried anything else. Compared to stock suspension, any coilover suspension will be better, but I still don't want any Megan Racing, D2, or other crap chinese knock offs. 1000$ is alot to spend on shit, if I can get good or atleast decent coilovers for 1300-1500$.

But thanks to all for your thoughts and suggestions.