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Old 02-24-2007, 05:41 PM   #1
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Tokico Blues and what springs for s13

well this is for my daily driver, but I would like something to stiffen the car up and drop it a little bit but not to low as I don't want the shocks going out on my in a few months. what is a good combination for improved handling and a decent but safe drop?

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Old 02-24-2007, 05:58 PM   #2
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I heard that tokico go more quickly...
Koni Yellow are good struts as far as I know

For the springs Eibach. You can't go wrong with thoses. I think you'd like the Pro-kit.
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Old 02-24-2007, 06:50 PM   #3
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What springs to go with tokico blues you ask? Stock. Since that's what they are made for.

People fail to realize that all the blues are almost oem replacements. The moments you put lowering springs on them, you shorten the live of the shock vastly.

Buy another setup if you want performance.
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Indeed... Tokico HP series are nothing but stock replacements. Slightly better valving but ment to be used with fatory springs. If you use shorter springs you'll blow the seals on the tokicos for sure.
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yep i blew one of my blues in a month. So i recommend a better shock, ive owned some koni yellows and i was happy with them.
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Not sure for the struts
but for the springs, get some RS R Springs, stiff as hell and not a huge drop.
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Old 02-25-2007, 12:07 PM   #7
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I had Tokico Blues with Espelier springs and everyone complimented the ride and handling on my old Silvia front end coupe. I would say Espelier are some of the better springs out there to get spirited handling yet retain a reasonablely comfortable ride lowered.
Eibach Sportlines drop the car dramatically which means you need to use at least AGX's or Koni's with them. The other eibachs don't lower the car much at at all.
Now Eibach ERS springs on the other hand are dope, though they are coilover springs .
RSR's are crazy stiff and slam the car. I personally don't think much of them. I would bet Espelier with AGX's or Koni's would be really nice as well.
Don't get Tein or Megan. Tein are crap as are Megans. H&R's are a good brand but mainly european car oriented, though they do make them for our cars.
In a nutshell for a strut spring combo if I was going to do one It would probably be the Espelier.
You can get KGMM as well if you have hook ups and they are pretty dope but stiff.
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Old 02-25-2007, 12:35 PM   #8
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for springs nothing that will drop it more than 1.5 inches Espelier springs are awsome. i had sportlines on kyb gr2s and the rears were gone in a year now i am getting coilovers. sportlines gave it a nice drop but hindered the strut's life.
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I had Tokico Blues with Espelier springs and everyone complimented the ride and handling on my old Silvia front end coupe. I would say Espelier are some of the better springs out there to get spirited handling yet retain a reasonablely comfortable ride lowered.
Eibach Sportlines drop the car dramatically which means you need to use at least AGX's or Koni's with them. The other eibachs don't lower the car much at at all.
Now Eibach ERS springs on the other hand are dope, though they are coilover springs .
RSR's are crazy stiff and slam the car. I personally don't think much of them. I would bet Espelier with AGX's or Koni's would be really nice as well.
Don't get Tein or Megan. Tein are crap as are Megans. H&R's are a good brand but mainly european car oriented, though they do make them for our cars.
In a nutshell for a strut spring combo if I was going to do one It would probably be the Espelier.
You can get KGMM as well if you have hook ups and they are pretty dope but stiff.


how long did you run this setup for? just curious as to what the life expectancy of the shocks would be with the espelier springs? does anyone have a good link to where to get these for an s13?

thanks for the great info btw!
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Old 02-26-2007, 12:11 PM   #10
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i ran the tokiko shocks/struts with tokiko springs back in the day. i believe they stopped selling springs, which is quite a shame. it was a really good setup. i drove on them for years until they blew, and even then i couldnt tell.. shit still worked well.
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i ran the tokiko shocks/struts with tokiko springs back in the day. i believe they stopped selling springs, which is quite a shame. it was a really good setup. i drove on them for years until they blew, and even then i couldnt tell.. shit still worked well.
They do have some on eGay.... the combos deals with springs. how did you like the ride height? The websites all post them only at 1.0" all the way around. Would you say this was accurate?

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the tanabe gf210 is a pretty badass spring. one of the stiffest you can get with a
pretty decent stance for the cash. my buddy ran tokico blue/tanabe gf210 for a
whole year, events and DD. i bought them for my DD a while ago. comfy ride.
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how long did you run this setup for? just curious as to what the life expectancy of the shocks would be with the espelier springs? does anyone have a good link to where to get these for an s13?

thanks for the great info btw!
I had in in the car for awhile till I sold the car. As far as I know the current owner is still running them. As for where you can get them? I believe Option Imports carries them as well as several other shops. Just google them.
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hey I found some swift springs on the option import website and they only do about a 1" drop all the way around, anyone have any experience with these?
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hey I found some swift springs on the option import website and they only do about a 1" drop all the way around, anyone have any experience with these?
Swift is a very popular Japanese spring manufacture. They do a lot of Coilover springs. They are supposedly pretty good. Though a 1" drop is not a lot.
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irocked RSR ti series and tokiko blues on my last car. handeled allot flatter and less roll than stock, and had a good ride to them. allot better than the KYB AGX and sportlines or some shit that my new car came with.
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tokico blues (shock) and tein s-tech (springs)
good height, i believe 1.5 in the front and 1.7 in the rear for drop
its handles pretty good for the setup
i recommended it
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