S13 LCA bushing Replacement - w/o damage? - Zilvia.net Forums | Nissan 240SX (Silvia) and Z (Fairlady) Car Forum

MrFairlady · 06-10-2011, 08:40 PM

Looking to install S13 LCA's back on my car and I have new E/S bushings for them but from what I understand from a friend, using a press may crush the arm??
Is there a non-destructive way to remove the old ones with a press or maybe w/o??

Jukebox · 06-10-2011, 08:57 PM

Burn em out w/ a propane torch is one way...

az_240 · 06-11-2011, 12:31 AM

Burn them out with torch and use a saw to cut the outer sleeve.

P.S. ES bushings in the LCAs is a bad idea.... Rubber or sphericals are best to avoid binding.

s14unimog · 06-13-2011, 10:57 AM

^ If your traction arm is set up correctly, that should never been an issue.

The fronts can only be burned out since its the only ES bushing that retains the outer metal sleeve. READ THE DIRECTIONS.

az_240 · 06-13-2011, 06:29 PM

^What? ES bushings in the uprights/LCAs will bind no matter what. The poly material has too much friction to it and does not allow the inner metal sleeve to rotate freely when the suspension travels making the ride complete shit...even when they are well greased.

You are better off getting rubber Nismo bushings for the FLCAs... they are only like $10 each at the dealership. The Nismo RLCA bushings (s14) are near impossible to find these days though. I've been searching for the past 6 months for some at a reasonable price and have found nothing.

MrFairlady · 06-13-2011, 06:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by az_240

Burn them out with torch and use a saw to cut the outer sleeve.

P.S. ES bushings in the LCAs is a bad idea.... Rubber or sphericals are best to avoid binding.

honestly I've heard that same thing about the tension rod Bushings and Other Stuff (like J30Diff can't use standard D/S,etc etc) like that Truly plays the telephone game: ie. 1 or 2 people having a problem with something and It transforming into more extreme Issue.
Either way....Its gonna def be better than the bushing that's in this Turd!

Quote:

READ THE DIRECTIONS.

I literally just saw the part about "using heat" to remove it.

just wanted to make sure before i trashed these things I spent so much time on welding/Boxing in and Cleaning.

az_240 · 06-13-2011, 07:04 PM

^Actually I'd rather have shitty stock bushings over ES any day if it's ever driven on the streets.

The ES tension rod bushings are built differently (3piece) and won't bind as bad.... they are still crap IMO.

DreamN · 06-13-2011, 07:13 PM

herp derp moment...

az_240 · 06-13-2011, 07:20 PM

^No it's a 2 piece (not including the inner sleeve)... unless they came out with a new design.

DreamN · 06-13-2011, 07:23 PM

Edit:

nevermind, i searched really quick. you're right bro.

K_style · 06-13-2011, 09:18 PM

i just put one on my w14 yesterday due to this issue http://zilvia.net/f/s-chassis/390483...aking-s14.html.

I used butane torch to burn old bushing out and install new ones with C-clamp. You do not need press to install new bushing nor you don't even need to take the ball joint out.

Loosen bolts for LCA and tension rod and sway bar. thats all you need.

refer this one Energy Suspension Bushing Installation Guide

s14unimog · 06-14-2011, 02:33 PM

ya, the fronts go in without a press. If you do the rears however, you'll need an arbor press.

06-10-2011, 08:40 PM	#1
MrFairlady Nissanaholic! Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Fascination Street,N.C Age: 46 Posts: 1,701 Trader Rating: (31) Rides Gallery: MrFairlady Feedback Score: 31 reviews	S13 LCA bushing Replacement - w/o damage? Looking to install S13 LCA's back on my car and I have new E/S bushings for them but from what I understand from a friend, using a press may crush the arm?? Is there a non-destructive way to remove the old ones with a press or maybe w/o?? __________________ z-tERty-2

06-13-2011, 10:57 AM	#4
s14unimog Nissanaholic! Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: In a place, near a river, over a lake Age: 38 Posts: 2,415 Trader Rating: (22) Rides Gallery: s14unimog Feedback Score: 22 reviews	^ If your traction arm is set up correctly, that should never been an issue. The fronts can only be burned out since its the only ES bushing that retains the outer metal sleeve. READ THE DIRECTIONS. __________________ Fuking ginger bread man stole my wallet... SHIFT*lock_slide to side d3m3rs0n: if i have a baby im naming it Brandons Fault Emerson

06-13-2011, 07:13 PM	#8
DreamN Post Whore! Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: SoCal - 818 Age: 40 Posts: 10,692 Trader Rating: (54) Rides Gallery: DreamN Feedback Score: 54 reviews	herp derp moment... __________________ - Jimmy Wanted: TBD For Sale: TBD

06-13-2011, 07:23 PM	#10
DreamN Post Whore! Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: SoCal - 818 Age: 40 Posts: 10,692 Trader Rating: (54) Rides Gallery: DreamN Feedback Score: 54 reviews	Edit: nevermind, i searched really quick. you're right bro. __________________ - Jimmy Wanted: TBD For Sale: TBD

06-14-2011, 02:33 PM	#12
s14unimog Nissanaholic! Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: In a place, near a river, over a lake Age: 38 Posts: 2,415 Trader Rating: (22) Rides Gallery: s14unimog Feedback Score: 22 reviews	ya, the fronts go in without a press. If you do the rears however, you'll need an arbor press. __________________ Fuking ginger bread man stole my wallet... SHIFT*lock_slide to side d3m3rs0n: if i have a baby im naming it Brandons Fault Emerson

06-10-2011, 08:57 PM	#2
Jukebox Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Pittsburgh, PA Posts: 23 Trader Rating: (2) Feedback Score: 2 reviews	Burn em out w/ a propane torch is one way...

06-11-2011, 12:31 AM	#3
az_240 Post Whore! Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Phx Posts: 3,097 Trader Rating: (41) Feedback Score: 41 reviews	Burn them out with torch and use a saw to cut the outer sleeve. P.S. ES bushings in the LCAs is a bad idea.... Rubber or sphericals are best to avoid binding.

06-13-2011, 06:29 PM	#5
az_240 Post Whore! Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Phx Posts: 3,097 Trader Rating: (41) Feedback Score: 41 reviews	^What? ES bushings in the uprights/LCAs will bind no matter what. The poly material has too much friction to it and does not allow the inner metal sleeve to rotate freely when the suspension travels making the ride complete shit...even when they are well greased. You are better off getting rubber Nismo bushings for the FLCAs... they are only like $10 each at the dealership. The Nismo RLCA bushings (s14) are near impossible to find these days though. I've been searching for the past 6 months for some at a reasonable price and have found nothing.

06-13-2011, 07:04 PM	#7
az_240 Post Whore! Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Phx Posts: 3,097 Trader Rating: (41) Feedback Score: 41 reviews	^Actually I'd rather have shitty stock bushings over ES any day if it's ever driven on the streets. The ES tension rod bushings are built differently (3piece) and won't bind as bad.... they are still crap IMO.

06-13-2011, 07:20 PM	#9
az_240 Post Whore! Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Phx Posts: 3,097 Trader Rating: (41) Feedback Score: 41 reviews	^No it's a 2 piece (not including the inner sleeve)... unless they came out with a new design.

06-13-2011, 09:18 PM	#11
K_style Post Whore! Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Henderson, NV Posts: 7,666 Trader Rating: (63) Rides Gallery: K_style Feedback Score: 63 reviews	i just put one on my w14 yesterday due to this issue http://zilvia.net/f/s-chassis/390483...aking-s14.html. I used butane torch to burn old bushing out and install new ones with C-clamp. You do not need press to install new bushing nor you don't even need to take the ball joint out. Loosen bolts for LCA and tension rod and sway bar. thats all you need. refer this one Energy Suspension Bushing Installation Guide

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