Nistune Maps

[davidpavel]

Hey guys,

I am interested in getting either a Nistune or a ECUMaster DET3 so I can get a tune.

However, I am curious if Nistune supports different sets of map which I could change on my own if I wanted.

I know the DET3 has a memory of 2 different maps so I could just plug in my laptop and change the map sets myself.

How many map sets does Nistune have? I looked on their website and it doesn't mention anything about that.

Thanks!

[Yellow4g63]

Nismotronics buddy. Look them up.

[davidpavel]

Originally Posted by Yellow4g63

Nismotronics buddy. Look them up.

Thanks...but I didn't ask for a tuning webiste

[Yellow4g63]

Originally Posted by davidpavel

Thanks...but I didn't ask for a tuning webiste

I'm pointing you to the best daughter board setup for the SR20 ecu. http://www.nismotronic.com/ not a tuning website.

[davidpavel]

Originally Posted by Yellow4g63

I'm pointing you to the best daughter board setup for the SR20 ecu. http://www.nismotronic.com/ not a tuning website.

Appreciated, but that wasn't my question at all. I'm just asking more info about Nistune and how many sets of maps they can hold.

[Yellow4g63]

Nistune will hold one map at a time, if you want to different bin you need to use the laptop to load it. The draw back to nistune is that your stuck with the 16X16 map to tune with and a maf.

[davidpavel]

Oh I see. Isn't 16x16 the most common though?

I was thinking about ECUMaster DET3 and that has an integrated MAP sensor and holds 2 individual maps, so I was thinking it is superior to the nistune.

[Yellow4g63]

Originally Posted by davidpavel

Oh I see. Isn't 16x16 the most common though?

I was thinking about ECUMaster DET3 and that has an integrated MAP sensor and holds 2 individual maps, so I was thinking it is superior to the nistune.

Yeah that's factory, Nismotronic bumps it to 20x20 for fuel and ignition. Also map sensor with AIT. It's almost like a stand alone.

[KAT-PWR]

Originally Posted by Yellow4g63

Yeah that's factory, Nismotronic bumps it to 20x20 for fuel and ignition. Also map sensor with AIT. It's almost like a stand alone.

Its not "almost like a standalone" it is a Nissan specific standalone that has 90% of the features of standalones that cost 5 times the price.

[htc.zenit]

I never heard of Nismotronic before. But it seems to be an interesting alternative to Nistune.

Anyone know if the plan on supporting 97-99 Kouki S14 Sr20det?

[KAT-PWR]

Originally Posted by htc.zenit

I never heard of Nismotronic before. But it seems to be an interesting alternative to Nistune.

Anyone know if the plan on supporting 97-99 Kouki S14 Sr20det?

S13 to s14 jumper harness

[Yellow4g63]

Don't think so, I think just the S13 ecu. You could still use it but just like when neo-vvl people use it you will have to wire up the vct to the breakout board and trigger it that way. Not sure if the S14 is on and off for the vct or if it moves it in increments.

[Croustibat]

Do not be afraid of the 16x16 "limitation". My tuner got 700HP+ out of his ca18det and mapped it with a nistune. Unless you plan to get more than that, clearly a nistune is not going to limit power. The nistune can also be fitted with an alcohol sensor so the car can be mapped and run as flexfuel (any mix of e85 and regular fuel). It also has launch control now.

Still, if OP wants more than 1 set of maps (i wonder why but hey... to each their own), a nistune may not fit its needs.

[davidpavel]

Originally Posted by Croustibat

Do not be afraid of the 16x16 "limitation". My tuner got 700HP+ out of his ca18det and mapped it with a nistune. Unless you plan to get more than that, clearly a nistune is not going to limit power. The nistune can also be fitted with an alcohol sensor so the car can be mapped and run as flexfuel (any mix of e85 and regular fuel). It also has launch control now.

Still, if OP wants more than 1 set of maps (i wonder why but hey... to each their own), a nistune may not fit its needs.

Well doesnt set of maps mean number of maps the unit can hold on its own so I can switch back and forth between them?

I'm just thinking that I would prefer to have a map to run, and if something goes "wrong", just plug in my laptop and get another map on.

Is that not what independent switchable map sets means? (As ECUMaster DET3 advertises)

[Croustibat]

Originally Posted by davidpavel

Well doesnt set of maps mean number of maps the unit can hold on its own so I can switch back and forth between them?

I'm just thinking that I would prefer to have a map to run, and if something goes "wrong", just plug in my laptop and get another map on.

Is that not what independent switchable map sets means? (As ECUMaster DET3 advertises)

Switchable map sets means there is a way to switch maps without plugging anything. Hit a switch,voila, new maps. You need to plug a computer on the nistune if you want to change the map set (and your computer can store an infinite number of sets)

Different sets can be used upon conditions, like a "full power set" and a "despicable driving condition set" ... but that is just wishful thinking in the end.

What are you calling "in case something goes wrong" ? ECUs have a standard set and a "fallback" map sets, that allows a limp mode when something is wrong already.

[OnTheChip]

NismotronicSA has 2 sets of 2 maps each, total of 4 20x20 maps for both fuel and timing. The load source (MAF,MAP,alpha-N) is selected for each set and switching between Primary and Secondary maps within that set is fully programmable.

Edit: For some reason, these links only work when opened in a new tab.

NismotronicSA Help Documents

NismotronicSA TunerCodeSA Help

Map Switching Programming

Map Switch Programming Triggers