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***S14DB*** · 12-20-2007, 05:03 PM

I was going to use my Knockoff B&M off my KA but I just realized the shifter on my SR is a short throw. The only old thing is that the BM is straight up in Neutral while the JDM one is angled back. When it's in 3rd it looks like it's in Neutral. The throw lengths are almost the same.

I dunno which would be more comfortable for Street driving with light Drag/autox.

B&M Knockoff in Neutral:

JDM in Neutral:

usdm180sx · 12-20-2007, 05:16 PM

Try them both out?

***S14DB*** · 12-20-2007, 05:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by usdm180sx

Try them both out?

My knuckles say no...

**Phlip** · 12-20-2007, 06:19 PM

I know that your B&M knockoff is the same as the one I have, which was suggested to me by who has been one of the most elitist assholes in the history of my circle of friends, so I say use that and sell the unknown "as-is."

murda-c · 12-20-2007, 07:52 PM

is the b&m knockoff as good as the real thing? i was thinking about trying one.

M4Rl0N · 12-21-2007, 09:20 PM

i drove a s13 with a ebay short shifter and i felt the diffrence
i would say knockoff
but be prepaired for some anoying vibratrion......

*revat619* · 12-22-2007, 07:13 PM

i hate b&m shifters.

So this is the first and last time you'll ever see me type the following statement:

Go with the knock off.

Rob's S14 · 12-24-2007, 12:30 AM

I would say B&M knockoff. I have no experience with it, but it looks like it's in better condition.

sillyvia13 · 01-02-2008, 01:25 PM

B&M vibrate like a mofo too!
knock off vibrate like a mofo MORE!
stock , no issues....
I RUN A STOCK! usdm shifta!
I have long arms no need for short throw...lol...

ALEXTHESUS*PECT · 01-02-2008, 01:40 PM

short thow would be my choice.

kazaskatans13 · 01-02-2008, 08:37 PM

^^They both have a shorter throw. They both will probably vibrate somewhat also. But i think the one that is angled back more would be nicer.

*S13Boosts* · 01-02-2008, 08:57 PM

try the knockoff

kevtrinh · 01-02-2008, 10:24 PM

maybe the jdm one is just on backwards....try taking it out and reversing it.

DOOK · 01-03-2008, 01:11 PM

from the angles shown in neutral your arm length would come into play. If you have longer arms, go with the B&M knockoff, if you have shorter arms go with the JDM.

powersteeringless180sx · 01-08-2008, 08:20 PM

i'd go w/ the jdm one since it sits closer to towards you.

alindeman1989 · 01-13-2008, 05:22 PM

i would use the jdm one

!Zar! · 01-14-2008, 01:58 PM

Go with the unknown jdm and give me the b&m.

bloodangels13 · 01-15-2008, 03:19 PM

based on the pics if the knockoff is exactly like the real b&m or even close the shifter is installed in the base plate backwards...

naed240sx · 01-17-2008, 08:57 AM

That knockoff shifter was put together backwards. Take it apart and turn the handle around. This is a very common problem. It's a good shifter though. I rebuilt mine just to be safe before use, and used locktite on everything. It's going on around 25k+ miles of hard driving, no issues whatsoever. Also make sure to get a new pivot cup while the shifter is off the tranny.

View Poll Results: Unknown JDM or B&M Knockoff
B&M Knockoff	34	61.82%
JDM	21	38.18%
Voters: 55. You may not vote on this poll

12-20-2007, 05:03 PM	#1
*S14DB* AFC #1 Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: 昨晩あなたのお母さんの家 Posts: 20,181 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	Which shifter to use? I was going to use my Knockoff B&M off my KA but I just realized the shifter on my SR is a short throw. The only old thing is that the BM is straight up in Neutral while the JDM one is angled back. When it's in 3rd it looks like it's in Neutral. The throw lengths are almost the same. I dunno which would be more comfortable for Street driving with light Drag/autox. B&M Knockoff in Neutral: JDM in Neutral: __________________ Comments should be taken as Opinions not as Statements of Fact

12-20-2007, 05:16 PM	#2
usdm180sx Post Whore! Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: 562 Posts: 4,807 Trader Rating: (5) Rides Gallery: usdm180sx Feedback Score: 5 reviews	Try them both out? __________________ -Norm!

12-20-2007, 06:19 PM	#4
Phlip Yes, I look like that Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: In my supervillain's lair Posts: 27,976 Trader Rating: (19) Rides Gallery: Phlip Feedback Score: 19 reviews	I know that your B&M knockoff is the same as the one I have, which was suggested to me by who has been one of the most elitist assholes in the history of my circle of friends, so I say use that and sell the unknown "as-is." __________________ Weirdo And I write too!

12-21-2007, 09:20 PM	#6
M4Rl0N Zilvia Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: FRiSC0--->PiTTSBURG Age: 34 Posts: 273 Trader Rating: (8) Feedback Score: 8 reviews	i drove a s13 with a ebay short shifter and i felt the diffrence i would say knockoff but be prepaired for some anoying vibratrion...... __________________

12-20-2007, 07:52 PM	#5
murda-c Post Whore! Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Montgomery County, MD Age: 36 Posts: 3,197 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	is the b&m knockoff as good as the real thing? i was thinking about trying one.

12-22-2007, 07:13 PM	#7
revat619 Retired General Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: San Diego Posts: 4,672 Trader Rating: (7) Feedback Score: 7 reviews	i hate b&m shifters. So this is the first and last time you'll ever see me type the following statement: Go with the knock off. __________________ www.Jspec.com www.SpeedAlliance.com www.PoweredByMax.net Instagram: @rjsladerade

12-24-2007, 12:30 AM	#8
Rob's S14 Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Fountain Valley, CA Age: 42 Posts: 1,199 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	I would say B&M knockoff. I have no experience with it, but it looks like it's in better condition.

01-02-2008, 01:25 PM	#9
sillyvia13 BANNED Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: nh Posts: 1,645 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	B&M vibrate like a mofo too! knock off vibrate like a mofo MORE! stock , no issues.... I RUN A STOCK! usdm shifta! I have long arms no need for short throw...lol...

01-02-2008, 01:40 PM	#10
ALEXTHESUSPECT Post Whore! Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Soul cal!! Age: 46 Posts: 4,387 Trader Rating: (5) Rides Gallery: ALEXTHESUSPECT Feedback Score: 5 reviews	short thow would be my choice. __________________ *TEAM SUSPECT**

01-02-2008, 08:37 PM	#11
kazaskatans13 Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: VA beyotch Age: 44 Posts: 12 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	^^They both have a shorter throw. They both will probably vibrate somewhat also. But i think the one that is angled back more would be nicer.

01-02-2008, 08:57 PM	#12
S13Boosts Premium Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: VEGAS Posts: 5,292 Trader Rating: (12) Feedback Score: 12 reviews	try the knockoff

01-02-2008, 10:24 PM	#13
kevtrinh Zilvia Junkie Join Date: May 2006 Location: Richmond,VA Posts: 370 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	maybe the jdm one is just on backwards....try taking it out and reversing it.

01-03-2008, 01:11 PM	#14
DOOK Post Whore! Join Date: May 2007 Location: Land of Milk and Cookies Age: 41 Posts: 7,552 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	from the angles shown in neutral your arm length would come into play. If you have longer arms, go with the B&M knockoff, if you have shorter arms go with the JDM. __________________ <------ Grumpy Old Asshole MY REVIEW THREAD: Ltdnismoracer4=DOOK http://www.zilvia.net/f/showthread.p...ltdnismoracer4

01-08-2008, 08:20 PM	#15
powersteeringless180sx Zilvia Addict Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: SoCal (Orange County) Age: 42 Posts: 868 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	i'd go w/ the jdm one since it sits closer to towards you.

01-13-2008, 05:22 PM	#16
alindeman1989 Zilvia Addict Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Newark/bayarea,Ca Age: 35 Posts: 902 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	i would use the jdm one

01-14-2008, 01:58 PM	#17
!Zar! Post Whore! Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: North Korea Posts: 14,579 Trader Rating: (27) Feedback Score: 27 reviews	Go with the unknown jdm and give me the b&m. __________________

01-17-2008, 08:57 AM	#19
naed240sx Zilvia Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 206 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	That knockoff shifter was put together backwards. Take it apart and turn the handle around. This is a very common problem. It's a good shifter though. I rebuilt mine just to be safe before use, and used locktite on everything. It's going on around 25k+ miles of hard driving, no issues whatsoever. Also make sure to get a new pivot cup while the shifter is off the tranny.