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Saul240 · 07-05-2003, 07:00 PM

I know the HKS hi-power is 2.5", and even though Ill be going n/a for a while im not sure if i would want the Apexi N1 dual exhaust system which is 3" piping and which is the probable loss of backpressure for a n/a vehicle....what do you guys think?

S14TiNMAN · 07-06-2003, 01:53 PM

i got the duals installed yesterday, so far so good.

019 · 07-11-2003, 11:29 AM

depends what kind of look you like. i love the single canister angled look. i have a hiper on my car and i absolutely love it. it's not loud, but rather nice and deep. you have to realize that the n1 dual will be VERY loud n/a. you'll have to consider getting silencers, which are pretty expensive iirc. and i believe the hiper is 2.75" piping. not completely sure about that.

CrispMofo · 08-10-2003, 06:58 AM

dual n1's coz i neeeeed my mid-end power!

ruudbwoy · 09-09-2003, 07:09 PM

imma go with the apexi dual

97DubTruck · 09-13-2003, 11:26 AM

HKS gives you back more power from what i've seen and the duals are a little annoying and drone sounding. they look awesome though.

*ca18guy* · 09-15-2003, 07:14 AM

For a n/a car I would get the HKS, 3 inches (Apexi)is just too large for a fairly stock 2.4L normally aspirated engine. The dual looks really good though

Ghettokracker71 · 03-16-2004, 09:18 PM

HKS all the way,heard alot of bad things about the N1 dual(see the current thread "My new exhaust,must see") ....

GotBoost? · 07-08-2004, 02:11 PM

I'd go with the HKS, i had an N1 on my previous car and its hella loud....attracts too much bad attention.

***S14DB*** · 07-08-2004, 08:25 PM

Get a HKS 3". 2.4L fills the pipeing nicely.

CatchMyDrift03 · 07-08-2004, 09:47 PM

well you said that you'll be going N/A for a while. i'd still go with the dual N1. it gives you the mid to upper end power. and not for nothing there arent really alot of exhaust companies out there that make the dual N1. it looks awesome and it looks a hell of alot better then the honda guys wxhaust. the HKS is still really cool exhaust also. i guess its more about looks since i mean you'll be going n/a for a while but thinking about turbo. i'd still go with the Dual N1. actually what you should do is what my friend did, and thats, Get the Dual N1's and have a powder coating place coat the exhaust(not the mufflers) red. IT LOOKS SO CRAZY ON MY FRIENDS HATCH! I AM GOING TO DO IT TOO.

Ghst 01 · 07-08-2004, 10:16 PM

I go the dual's and they are not as loud as folks say on a N/a car... they have a nice deep sound... and sound mean at idle.... now that i am boosting they sound a little lees noisy but still good

SimpleS14 · 07-08-2004, 11:28 PM

N1 Dual....why?....because four people I know have them and are happy with them

TurK · 07-09-2004, 12:54 AM

i also went w/ the n1 duals....i think it sounds real nice....it doesnt have the big can look either...

Salty_X · 07-09-2004, 03:31 AM

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nlzmo400r · 07-09-2004, 07:23 AM

couldnt agree with that post more. I like the dual, and hte HKS hiper, but ever considered a single Apexi N1? I just ordered mine yesterday

AutoRnD · 07-23-2004, 04:06 PM

or... you guys can get the gp sports spec r dual tip... Very reminiscent of the Trust DD

*Sanchi* · 07-23-2004, 04:31 PM

im useing my N1 duels bout a year now and i got no problems. They look real nice and its not that loud... i was afrade of it being super loud but it wasent. check out my ghay page...

DRO916 · 07-23-2004, 05:14 PM

anybody know any online shops with good prices for the newer full stainless n1 single? thanks in advance...

Inland180 · 09-27-2004, 02:40 PM

HKS guys. IMO you can never go wrong with HKS!!

nightwalker · 10-10-2004, 10:25 PM

heard both of them, on NA KAs, and SRs, definitely 3inch HKS all the way. Duals eventually sound like crap after extended use.

Buffalo Daughter · 10-11-2004, 01:33 AM

fuck i wish i could get trust DD. Thems are the shits. But i've been happy with my HKS hiper for a couple of years now. I think its the shit. Its all about apples and bannanas. What ever you prefer. Max hp (hiper) or good mid range grunt (dual n1)

what ever floats your boat.

Sirikool · 10-21-2004, 10:48 PM

tough choice. pretty equal right there, but i think i would go for HKS.

ghostuss · 10-22-2004, 04:36 PM

HKS HKS!! It has a 4in Canister. When the cop pulled me over (not cause of the exhaust but cause I was driving in the mountain road after midnight

)he kept on repeating to me and my friend who happen to have n1 Duals, "That is an aweful big exhaust

.", he didn't give me a ticket

. so that was cool. HAHA N1 duals, owned

95Blue240sx · 04-17-2006, 02:18 PM

Ill take anything over the apexi n1 dual. The exhaust is not good for long term use. I had one that fell apart on me. The tip/tips came off while on the freeway. Cheap welds. Exhaust was about 2 years old when it did it. Sounds nice and looks nice, but quality was disappointing. This is pretty common, also with the single N1.

punxva · 04-17-2006, 09:08 PM

hks ftw heres what it sounds like on a NA KA, the 80mm piping too

on my car that is

http://videos.streetfire.net/video/7...C5454006BF.htm

!Zar! · 04-18-2006, 03:03 AM

I love dual n1 style exhausts. So I purchaced their dual's for my s14...

One of my worst decisions.

The fitment it horrible, and the weld are trash.

As for sound quality, I love them. Coupled with my sard torque dampener, they sound so sexy. I just wish they performed the way they sounded.

I'm planning on selling them in the near future so I can purchace a higher quality dual n1 setup.

95Blue240sx · 04-18-2006, 09:56 AM

^^^yeah the sound is the best Ive ever heard. When i had them i was using an intake and Hotshot header. Fucker sounded mean! Id get backfires that scared people hahaha. They were good times. I wonder if they would fit in my bumper.

Zar did yours crack or anything?

!Zar! · 04-18-2006, 11:03 AM

Mine cracked right were the tips connect to the tube it's self. And one of the hangers broke off.

My car is fairly dumped, and exhaust clearance sucks but I know I didn't bottom out hard on it. So I'm sure it was more of a QC issue than mine. I also forgot to mention I'm running a Megan Racing header, that helps contribute to the sound also.

Ricks15 · 04-18-2006, 11:29 PM

Apexi poor quality welds and heavy as fuck too. HKS is good they sound really good even after all the abuse, and all the climate conditions they still perform pretty good.

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07-05-2003, 07:00 PM	#1
Saul240 BANNED Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: San Diego Age: 37 Posts: 276 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	HKS Hi-Power vs. Apexi N1 Dual I know the HKS hi-power is 2.5", and even though Ill be going n/a for a while im not sure if i would want the Apexi N1 dual exhaust system which is 3" piping and which is the probable loss of backpressure for a n/a vehicle....what do you guys think?

07-06-2003, 01:53 PM	#2
S14TiNMAN Zilvia Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: san francisco bay area Age: 38 Posts: 240 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	i got the duals installed yesterday, so far so good. __________________ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ RIP JAM 31902 K.I.S. [keepin' it sideways] 95'SE 91' BASE--->NEW PROJECT

07-11-2003, 11:29 AM	#3
019 Zilvia Addict Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: blacksburg, va Posts: 697 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	depends what kind of look you like. i love the single canister angled look. i have a hiper on my car and i absolutely love it. it's not loud, but rather nice and deep. you have to realize that the n1 dual will be VERY loud n/a. you'll have to consider getting silencers, which are pretty expensive iirc. and i believe the hiper is 2.75" piping. not completely sure about that. __________________ Red '96 240sx www.streetdynamics.com

07-08-2004, 08:25 PM	#10
*S14DB* AFC #1 Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: 昨晩あなたのお母さんの家 Posts: 20,181 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	Get a HKS 3". 2.4L fills the pipeing nicely. __________________ Comments should be taken as Opinions not as Statements of Fact

08-10-2003, 06:58 AM	#4
CrispMofo Leaky Injector Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Boston, MA Age: 42 Posts: 138 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	dual n1's coz i neeeeed my mid-end power!

09-09-2003, 07:09 PM	#5
ruudbwoy Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: ft.lauderdale, FL Age: 41 Posts: 305 Trader Rating: (5) Feedback Score: 5 reviews	imma go with the apexi dual

09-13-2003, 11:26 AM	#6
97DubTruck Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: location, location Posts: 532 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	HKS gives you back more power from what i've seen and the duals are a little annoying and drone sounding. they look awesome though.

09-15-2003, 07:14 AM	#7
ca18guy Premium Member Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Clearwater FL Age: 41 Posts: 3,226 Trader Rating: (0) Rides Gallery: ca18guy Feedback Score: 0 reviews	For a n/a car I would get the HKS, 3 inches (Apexi)is just too large for a fairly stock 2.4L normally aspirated engine. The dual looks really good though

03-16-2004, 09:18 PM	#8
Ghettokracker71 Post Whore! Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Don't look now... Age: 37 Posts: 3,327 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	HKS all the way,heard alot of bad things about the N1 dual(see the current thread "My new exhaust,must see") ....

07-08-2004, 02:11 PM	#9
GotBoost? Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: San Jose Posts: 26 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I'd go with the HKS, i had an N1 on my previous car and its hella loud....attracts too much bad attention.

07-08-2004, 09:47 PM	#11
CatchMyDrift03 Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: america Posts: 32 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	well you said that you'll be going N/A for a while. i'd still go with the dual N1. it gives you the mid to upper end power. and not for nothing there arent really alot of exhaust companies out there that make the dual N1. it looks awesome and it looks a hell of alot better then the honda guys wxhaust. the HKS is still really cool exhaust also. i guess its more about looks since i mean you'll be going n/a for a while but thinking about turbo. i'd still go with the Dual N1. actually what you should do is what my friend did, and thats, Get the Dual N1's and have a powder coating place coat the exhaust(not the mufflers) red. IT LOOKS SO CRAZY ON MY FRIENDS HATCH! I AM GOING TO DO IT TOO.

07-08-2004, 10:16 PM	#12
Ghst 01 Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: San Francisco, CA Age: 45 Posts: 479 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I go the dual's and they are not as loud as folks say on a N/a car... they have a nice deep sound... and sound mean at idle.... now that i am boosting they sound a little lees noisy but still good __________________ AIM: ghst01 http://www.cardomain.com/ride/585615 http://www.myspace.com/8407376 96 red zenki: Greddy KA Turbo kit (TD06-20g, 370cc, Emanage, Vspell FMIC), TEIN HE's, VIS Vader CF hood, Falken Azenis ST-115's, Sony Xplod head unit.

07-08-2004, 11:28 PM	#13
SimpleS14 Post Whore! Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Philly Age: 41 Posts: 9,185 Trader Rating: (0) Rides Gallery: SimpleS14 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	N1 Dual....why?....because four people I know have them and are happy with them __________________ *Goals are dreams with a deadline.* L.H.O.O.Q.

07-09-2004, 12:54 AM	#14
TurK Zilvia Addict Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: FL Posts: 966 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	i also went w/ the n1 duals....i think it sounds real nice....it doesnt have the big can look either...

07-09-2004, 03:31 AM	#15
Salty_X Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Modesto Posts: 1,221 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	http://forums.freshalloy.com/ubbthre...=&fpart=1&vc=1 Get the biggest piece you can. __________________

07-09-2004, 07:23 AM	#16
nlzmo400r Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: louisiana Posts: 1,248 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	couldnt agree with that post more. I like the dual, and hte HKS hiper, but ever considered a single Apexi N1? I just ordered mine yesterday

07-23-2004, 04:06 PM	#17
AutoRnD Post Whore! Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: SF BAY AREA, CA Posts: 2,601 Trader Rating: (1) Rides Gallery: AutoRnD Feedback Score: 1 reviews	or... you guys can get the gp sports spec r dual tip... Very reminiscent of the Trust DD __________________ www.AutoRnD.com Nardi, Enkei, Stance, AME Master Distributors for USA Check Out Our Facebook!

07-23-2004, 04:31 PM	#18
Sanchi Macadamia Nut Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 405 Trader Rating: (0) Rides Gallery: Sanchi Feedback Score: 0 reviews	im useing my N1 duels bout a year now and i got no problems. They look real nice and its not that loud... i was afrade of it being super loud but it wasent. check out my ghay page... __________________ "Fear is the path to the Dark Side..., Fear leads to Anger, Anger leads to Hate, Hate leads to Suffering…" -Yoda

07-23-2004, 05:14 PM	#19
DRO916 Zilvia Addict Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Sacramento, CA Age: 38 Posts: 922 Trader Rating: (2) Feedback Score: 2 reviews	anybody know any online shops with good prices for the newer full stainless n1 single? thanks in advance... __________________

09-27-2004, 02:40 PM	#20
Inland180 Nissanaholic! Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Southern Cali Posts: 1,763 Trader Rating: (21) Feedback Score: 21 reviews	HKS guys. IMO you can never go wrong with HKS!! __________________ PTE6262 Full-Race Twin Scroll FTW! Feedback LINK

10-10-2004, 10:25 PM	#21
nightwalker Nissanaholic! Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Bay area Age: 45 Posts: 2,146 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	heard both of them, on NA KAs, and SRs, definitely 3inch HKS all the way. Duals eventually sound like crap after extended use. __________________ In life, we often cast the line of hope fishing for the best possible opportunity. Sometimes with enough effort, the things we catch are nothing short of amazing.

10-11-2004, 01:33 AM	#22
Buffalo Daughter Zilvia Addict Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: In The Depths of MorDor Posts: 764 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	fuck i wish i could get trust DD. Thems are the shits. But i've been happy with my HKS hiper for a couple of years now. I think its the shit. Its all about apples and bannanas. What ever you prefer. Max hp (hiper) or good mid range grunt (dual n1) what ever floats your boat. __________________ kick rocks.

10-21-2004, 10:48 PM	#23
Sirikool Join Date: May 2004 Location: So Cal Age: 41 Posts: 27 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	tough choice. pretty equal right there, but i think i would go for HKS. __________________

10-22-2004, 04:36 PM	#24
ghostuss Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: San Diego/San Francisco Age: 38 Posts: 1,337 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	HKS HKS!! It has a 4in Canister. When the cop pulled me over (not cause of the exhaust but cause I was driving in the mountain road after midnight )he kept on repeating to me and my friend who happen to have n1 Duals, "That is an aweful big exhaust .", he didn't give me a ticket . so that was cool. HAHA N1 duals, owned __________________ 96 all suspension s14 SOLD 90 s13 coupe - SOLD Currently rocking 2002 BMW M3 w/ custom suspension. ButtonWillow, CA entire circuit drift/grip event by shock drifting spot for sale. Take over my spot for $150 only.

04-17-2006, 02:18 PM	#25
95Blue240sx Post Whore! Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Girls pee-pee when they see me Age: 40 Posts: 4,084 Trader Rating: (0) Rides Gallery: 95Blue240sx Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Ill take anything over the apexi n1 dual. The exhaust is not good for long term use. I had one that fell apart on me. The tip/tips came off while on the freeway. Cheap welds. Exhaust was about 2 years old when it did it. Sounds nice and looks nice, but quality was disappointing. This is pretty common, also with the single N1. __________________ Please leave me feedback

04-18-2006, 03:03 AM	#27
!Zar! Post Whore! Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: North Korea Posts: 14,579 Trader Rating: (27) Feedback Score: 27 reviews	I love dual n1 style exhausts. So I purchaced their dual's for my s14... One of my worst decisions. The fitment it horrible, and the weld are trash. As for sound quality, I love them. Coupled with my sard torque dampener, they sound so sexy. I just wish they performed the way they sounded. I'm planning on selling them in the near future so I can purchace a higher quality dual n1 setup. __________________

04-18-2006, 09:56 AM	#28
95Blue240sx Post Whore! Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Girls pee-pee when they see me Age: 40 Posts: 4,084 Trader Rating: (0) Rides Gallery: 95Blue240sx Feedback Score: 0 reviews	^^^yeah the sound is the best Ive ever heard. When i had them i was using an intake and Hotshot header. Fucker sounded mean! Id get backfires that scared people hahaha. They were good times. I wonder if they would fit in my bumper. Zar did yours crack or anything? __________________ Please leave me feedback

04-18-2006, 11:03 AM	#29
!Zar! Post Whore! Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: North Korea Posts: 14,579 Trader Rating: (27) Feedback Score: 27 reviews	Mine cracked right were the tips connect to the tube it's self. And one of the hangers broke off. My car is fairly dumped, and exhaust clearance sucks but I know I didn't bottom out hard on it. So I'm sure it was more of a QC issue than mine. I also forgot to mention I'm running a Megan Racing header, that helps contribute to the sound also. __________________

04-18-2006, 11:29 PM	#30
Ricks15 Nissanaholic! Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Los Angeles, CA Age: 38 Posts: 1,661 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	Apexi poor quality welds and heavy as fuck too. HKS is good they sound really good even after all the abuse, and all the climate conditions they still perform pretty good.