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SR20d2fourT · 01-23-2006, 11:31 AM

hey guys, I left my car running thinking it was the turbo timer for about 3 hours. When I got back the overflow tank over flowed and I had a burnt smell in my car. It died the damn second I opened my door. My heart dropped... >:| Im pretty sure I got rid of the headgasket. When I opened the oil top a bunch of smoke came out... :'( . Does this mean my head is warped?? what does that mean? should I just do another oil change and fluid change and see how it goes? please help me out cuz this shits rediculous....especially on my part

c240sx13 · 01-23-2006, 01:24 PM

take out the sparkplugs and test teh compression, rent a compression tool from autozone

*NemeGuero* · 01-23-2006, 02:09 PM

You got rid of the headgasket? what does that mean? You need a head gasket.

Anyway, if this happened while your car was just idleing, it was something that was ready to go wrong. You should be happy you weren't driving when it happened.

Checking compression will help narrow down the possibilities.

Which over-flow tank over flowed? Radiator?

Flush coolant, change oil and check compression. My .02

EchoOfSilence · 01-23-2006, 02:39 PM

i think he means his headgasket DIED.
I think under normal conditions, all the car would do after idling for 3 hours is die, dude. Something else wasn't right if all this shit happened.

Cashizslick · 01-23-2006, 03:24 PM

Cars dont normally die when idling.

His car is f'ed up.

*NemeGuero* · 01-23-2006, 03:32 PM

That's the popular consensus.

Irukandji · 01-23-2006, 03:48 PM

I second getting the compression check, but your description is a little vague. if you post pictures or maybe compression test results, we could probably help you further.

smithers584 · 01-23-2006, 03:51 PM

never left it for that long, but its even more fun when you forget to take the keys out of the ignition after you turn it off and then get out and lock the doors!!! i have done that twice, got distracted by a shiny object or something when turning my car off.

SochBAT · 01-23-2006, 06:27 PM

Wow, 3 hours is kinda long.

I woulda noticed after the first hour.

Compression test. See results. Buy new motor.

breakindrifts · 01-23-2006, 06:43 PM

I don't think there necessarily had to be something wrong with the car prior to leaving it idling for 3 hours.
Even my car in good condition gets a little warmer than usual if Im sitting dead still for like 10 minutes in heavy traffic.
Car probably got messed up because it was just heatsoaked for hours with no air-flow, especially if its turbo...
I think blown head-gasket from being overheated for so long. Check compression like everyone else already said.

DJPimpFlex · 01-23-2006, 06:45 PM

3 hours is nothing . . .well for diesel anyway. hehe. Diesel guys will leave there trucks running all night, espically big rigs. I heard somewhere that because they use so much fuel at start up that its actually cheeper to do it that way.

driftking777 · 01-23-2006, 06:52 PM

aparently alot of you dont have over-heating issues when the car idles for a long time...yea...sounds like he ran all his coolant out of the car (or alot of it) and pretty much baked the motor in itself...a car overheating, and left overheating, will warp alot of things...head, pistons, ect...sorry to hear about your loss (if it becomes one) becuase i know i've mistaken my turbo timer being on and got out and left my car...but for only like 10 min...never 3 hours...

Bryants95240sx · 01-23-2006, 06:52 PM

you had to have a cooling system issuse for that to happen. OR you didnt have a fan on the radiator to pull air. Even though it was a turbo car it was idling so it wasnt hitting boost so theres not really gonna be anyextra heat from the turbo. Do a compression test to see.

aznpoopy · 01-23-2006, 07:11 PM

what kind of fan do you have on it?

e-fan? stocker? does it work?

i've idled my 240sx for an hour and half before without any issues... me and a little lady were having some uh... 'fun.'

*NemeGuero* · 01-23-2006, 07:16 PM

If your car over-heats while idleing... you need to replace/upgrade some stuff.

Thermostat, water pump, radiator...

That is NOT something that should happen normally.

And don't lie Aznpoopy.. we all know it was only idleing for 2-3 minutes..

EchoOfSilence · 01-23-2006, 07:38 PM

hahaha. you left the car ON? I'd think you'd have turned it OFF so that you don't get CAUGHT! hahaha Only real men have 'fun' with their gf while DRIVING the car, aznpoopy, i though you knew?

anyway, the only way a car dies from idling is form running out of gas, a working one anyway. I'll second the cooling system issue

SirWarrior · 01-23-2006, 08:03 PM

I left my car running for 4-6hrs when I stopped to get some sleep on a long trip (too cold to sleep with car off and few hours isnt worth 50bux hotel). Didn't hurt anything, at all.

So, there was probably something wrong with it before and you just didn't know.

Rickrak77 · 01-23-2006, 08:18 PM

Guessin you've got the stock fan and fan clutch, bet the clutch is no good, probably the radiator cap too.

If you smelled burnt stuff comin from the oil fill hole, then you got problems, you have to get the oil pretty hot to burn it (I think around 350 - 400 degrees)

aznpoopy · 01-23-2006, 09:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nemeguero

And don't lie Aznpoopy.. we all know it was only idleing for 2-3 minutes..

lol! you caught me! actually we were playing 2 player gameboy advance. :P

Quote:

Originally Posted by echoofsilence

Only real men have 'fun' with their gf while DRIVING the car, aznpoopy, i though you knew?

props if you can pull that one off!

SR20d2fourT · 02-10-2006, 04:32 PM

damn...well, I guess a compression test is due! Do you guys think it just shut itself off because it was geting to hot? thats what some people have told me. I was going to pull out my thermostat and see if its fucked. What thermo would fit in it? an sr20de from a sentra ? what year?

wootwoot · 02-10-2006, 04:38 PM

If there is oil in the coolant no point for a compression test, you know its fried. What is your cooling system like? Extreme over heating such as that does bad things as allready said by people.

SR20d2fourT · 02-10-2006, 04:42 PM

I didnt see any oil in the coolant. I have the KA radiator w/ out fans ( I know its killin me!)

**mrmephistopheles** · 02-10-2006, 04:47 PM

no fans at all?
That's VERY unwise.

SR20d2fourT · 02-10-2006, 04:49 PM

I know, I plan on installing them probably this weekend. Any suggestions on the thermostat? sr20de sentra of WHAT YEAR? I looked in the FAQ but didnt see anything specific to the year. Also, where is the bleeder screw on the SR for the coolant line? Also, is the tstat under the throttle on the lower coolant line? I know the KA is under the throttle. Is this so on the SR as well? thanks

g6civcx · 02-10-2006, 05:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SR20d2fourT

I know, I plan on installing them probably this weekend. Any suggestions on the thermostat? sr20de sentra of WHAT YEAR? I looked in the FAQ but didnt see anything specific to the year. Also, where is the bleeder screw on the SR for the coolant line? Also, is the tstat under the throttle on the lower coolant line? I know the KA is under the throttle. Is this so on the SR as well? thanks

1) B13 Sentra SE-R 91-94.

2) On the water outlet for the upper radiator hose.

3) Yes. Follow the lower radiator hose to the thermostat housing.

*MELLO*SOS* · 02-10-2006, 05:55 PM

No fans at all on your car and you left it idling for 3 hrs... Oops... Hope you have a spare motor that you've been building up on the side

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Change your oil, then refill your radiator with water, bleed it, but leave the cap off. Now crank the car and watch to see if water shoots out of the radiator fill neck. If so your head gasket is gone dude. GL man, sorry to hear.

wootwoot · 02-10-2006, 11:24 PM

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WHY WOULD YOU EVEN HAVE A TURBO TIMER ON YOUR CAR IF YOU DONT HAVE FANS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Ok I'm done now sorry. You're entire motor is going to be really fun to fix..Fun=expensive.

SR20d2fourT · 02-11-2006, 04:24 PM

lol. I dont let it run that long! Plus, I thought the stock fan would do the job until I got electrics. Im going to do that thing about filling the rad up again and bleeding and seeing if it shoots up. Is this an efficient way to test if my h/g is gone other than compression testing?

*MELLO*SOS* · 02-11-2006, 05:04 PM

it will quickly tell you if you have major problems with the HG, same as the sweet smelling white smoke pouring out the exhaust... For a more detailed look you should do a leak down test on each cylinder.

I didn't know you still had the mechanical fan, I guess I missed that part. Not as bad as running "no fans"... But do you have/are you using the mech fan shroud? It helps the fan pull air through the radiator and without it some people have run into overheating issues.

wootwoot · 02-11-2006, 05:24 PM

oh whoops, I thought you meant NO fans. Stock clutch fan is better then most e fans as long as you have the frickin shroud

01-23-2006, 11:31 AM	#1
SR20d2fourT Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Earth Age: 38 Posts: 403 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I know, Im a dumbass hey guys, I left my car running thinking it was the turbo timer for about 3 hours. When I got back the overflow tank over flowed and I had a burnt smell in my car. It died the damn second I opened my door. My heart dropped... >:\| Im pretty sure I got rid of the headgasket. When I opened the oil top a bunch of smoke came out... :'( . Does this mean my head is warped?? what does that mean? should I just do another oil change and fluid change and see how it goes? please help me out cuz this shits rediculous....especially on my part

01-23-2006, 02:09 PM	#3
NemeGuero No more nissan. Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: RAIN, Washington. Age: 40 Posts: 8,132 Trader Rating: (10) Rides Gallery: NemeGuero Feedback Score: 10 reviews	You got rid of the headgasket? what does that mean? You need a head gasket. Anyway, if this happened while your car was just idleing, it was something that was ready to go wrong. You should be happy you weren't driving when it happened. Checking compression will help narrow down the possibilities. Which over-flow tank over flowed? Radiator? Flush coolant, change oil and check compression. My .02 __________________

01-23-2006, 02:39 PM	#4
EchoOfSilence Nissanaholic! Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Los Angeles/Berkeley, CA Posts: 2,238 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	i think he means his headgasket DIED. I think under normal conditions, all the car would do after idling for 3 hours is die, dude. Something else wasn't right if all this shit happened. __________________ Petition Nissan to Make the IDx on http://IDxClub.co !

01-23-2006, 03:32 PM	#6
NemeGuero No more nissan. Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: RAIN, Washington. Age: 40 Posts: 8,132 Trader Rating: (10) Rides Gallery: NemeGuero Feedback Score: 10 reviews	That's the popular consensus. __________________

01-23-2006, 06:43 PM	#10
breakindrifts Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Agoura Hills, CA Age: 36 Posts: 1,006 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I don't think there necessarily had to be something wrong with the car prior to leaving it idling for 3 hours. Even my car in good condition gets a little warmer than usual if Im sitting dead still for like 10 minutes in heavy traffic. Car probably got messed up because it was just heatsoaked for hours with no air-flow, especially if its turbo... I think blown head-gasket from being overheated for so long. Check compression like everyone else already said. __________________ [

01-23-2006, 01:24 PM	#2
c240sx13 BANNED Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: So Cal Posts: 108 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	take out the sparkplugs and test teh compression, rent a compression tool from autozone

01-23-2006, 03:24 PM	#5
Cashizslick Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 328 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Cars dont normally die when idling. His car is f'ed up.

01-23-2006, 03:48 PM	#7
Irukandji Post Whore! Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Compton Posts: 4,268 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I second getting the compression check, but your description is a little vague. if you post pictures or maybe compression test results, we could probably help you further.

01-23-2006, 03:51 PM	#8
smithers584 Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: sc Posts: 416 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	never left it for that long, but its even more fun when you forget to take the keys out of the ignition after you turn it off and then get out and lock the doors!!! i have done that twice, got distracted by a shiny object or something when turning my car off.

01-23-2006, 06:27 PM	#9
SochBAT Post Whore! Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Abilene, TX Age: 39 Posts: 6,428 Trader Rating: (9) Rides Gallery: SochBAT Feedback Score: 9 reviews	Wow, 3 hours is kinda long. I woulda noticed after the first hour. Compression test. See results. Buy new motor.

01-23-2006, 06:45 PM	#11
DJPimpFlex Post Whore! Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Rohnert Park, CA Age: 39 Posts: 6,158 Trader Rating: (115) Rides Gallery: DJPimpFlex Feedback Score: 115 reviews	3 hours is nothing . . .well for diesel anyway. hehe. Diesel guys will leave there trucks running all night, espically big rigs. I heard somewhere that because they use so much fuel at start up that its actually cheeper to do it that way. __________________

01-23-2006, 06:52 PM	#12
driftking777 Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: South Dakota Posts: 554 Trader Rating: (2) Feedback Score: 2 reviews	aparently alot of you dont have over-heating issues when the car idles for a long time...yea...sounds like he ran all his coolant out of the car (or alot of it) and pretty much baked the motor in itself...a car overheating, and left overheating, will warp alot of things...head, pistons, ect...sorry to hear about your loss (if it becomes one) becuase i know i've mistaken my turbo timer being on and got out and left my car...but for only like 10 min...never 3 hours...

01-23-2006, 06:52 PM	#13
Bryants95240sx Zilvia Addict Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: alabama Age: 37 Posts: 668 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	you had to have a cooling system issuse for that to happen. OR you didnt have a fan on the radiator to pull air. Even though it was a turbo car it was idling so it wasnt hitting boost so theres not really gonna be anyextra heat from the turbo. Do a compression test to see. __________________

01-23-2006, 07:11 PM	#14
aznpoopy Post Whore! Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: New Jersey Age: 44 Posts: 5,013 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	what kind of fan do you have on it? e-fan? stocker? does it work? i've idled my 240sx for an hour and half before without any issues... me and a little lady were having some uh... 'fun.'

01-23-2006, 07:16 PM	#15
NemeGuero No more nissan. Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: RAIN, Washington. Age: 40 Posts: 8,132 Trader Rating: (10) Rides Gallery: NemeGuero Feedback Score: 10 reviews	If your car over-heats while idleing... you need to replace/upgrade some stuff. Thermostat, water pump, radiator... That is NOT something that should happen normally. And don't lie Aznpoopy.. we all know it was only idleing for 2-3 minutes.. __________________

01-23-2006, 07:38 PM	#16
EchoOfSilence Nissanaholic! Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Los Angeles/Berkeley, CA Posts: 2,238 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	hahaha. you left the car ON? I'd think you'd have turned it OFF so that you don't get CAUGHT! hahaha Only real men have 'fun' with their gf while DRIVING the car, aznpoopy, i though you knew? anyway, the only way a car dies from idling is form running out of gas, a working one anyway. I'll second the cooling system issue __________________ Petition Nissan to Make the IDx on http://IDxClub.co !

01-23-2006, 08:03 PM	#17
SirWarrior Zilvia Addict Join Date: May 2004 Location: Chicagoland Posts: 762 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I left my car running for 4-6hrs when I stopped to get some sleep on a long trip (too cold to sleep with car off and few hours isnt worth 50bux hotel). Didn't hurt anything, at all. So, there was probably something wrong with it before and you just didn't know. __________________ 92 FastBack - Project 98 SE - Daily Driver

01-23-2006, 08:18 PM	#18
Rickrak77 Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Central CA Posts: 32 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Guessin you've got the stock fan and fan clutch, bet the clutch is no good, probably the radiator cap too. If you smelled burnt stuff comin from the oil fill hole, then you got problems, you have to get the oil pretty hot to burn it (I think around 350 - 400 degrees) __________________ Some days you're the windshield..... Some days you're the bug.....

02-10-2006, 04:32 PM	#20
SR20d2fourT Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Earth Age: 38 Posts: 403 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	damn...well, I guess a compression test is due! Do you guys think it just shut itself off because it was geting to hot? thats what some people have told me. I was going to pull out my thermostat and see if its fucked. What thermo would fit in it? an sr20de from a sentra ? what year?

02-10-2006, 04:38 PM	#21
wootwoot Post Whore! Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: sarasota florida biatch Age: 39 Posts: 3,850 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	If there is oil in the coolant no point for a compression test, you know its fried. What is your cooling system like? Extreme over heating such as that does bad things as allready said by people. __________________ I'm from Florida so I'm probably a bit more strange than you

02-10-2006, 04:42 PM	#22
SR20d2fourT Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Earth Age: 38 Posts: 403 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I didnt see any oil in the coolant. I have the KA radiator w/ out fans ( I know its killin me!)

02-10-2006, 04:49 PM	#24
SR20d2fourT Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Earth Age: 38 Posts: 403 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I know, I plan on installing them probably this weekend. Any suggestions on the thermostat? sr20de sentra of WHAT YEAR? I looked in the FAQ but didnt see anything specific to the year. Also, where is the bleeder screw on the SR for the coolant line? Also, is the tstat under the throttle on the lower coolant line? I know the KA is under the throttle. Is this so on the SR as well? thanks Last edited by SR20d2fourT; 02-10-2006 at 05:28 PM..

02-10-2006, 05:55 PM	#26
MELLOSOS* LAID OUT Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: LAS VEGAS Age: 43 Posts: 2,015 Trader Rating: (1) Rides Gallery: MELLO*SOS Feedback Score: 1 reviews	No fans at all on your car and you left it idling for 3 hrs... Oops... Hope you have a spare motor that you've been building up on the side . Change your oil, then refill your radiator with water, bleed it, but leave the cap off. Now crank the car and watch to see if water shoots out of the radiator fill neck. If so your head gasket is gone dude. GL man, sorry to hear.

02-10-2006, 11:24 PM	#27
wootwoot Post Whore! Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: sarasota florida biatch Age: 39 Posts: 3,850 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	uandfiugnadfiugndafiugnadufiguabnsdufiabndsufnbasu dfvansdbfuvadnvjnadvkjanbdkvankjdfanvdfnvjakdfnvkj adfnvkjadnfvkjadfnv WHY WOULD YOU EVEN HAVE A TURBO TIMER ON YOUR CAR IF YOU DONT HAVE FANS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Ok I'm done now sorry. You're entire motor is going to be really fun to fix..Fun=expensive. __________________ I'm from Florida so I'm probably a bit more strange than you

02-11-2006, 04:24 PM	#28
SR20d2fourT Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Earth Age: 38 Posts: 403 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	lol. I dont let it run that long! Plus, I thought the stock fan would do the job until I got electrics. Im going to do that thing about filling the rad up again and bleeding and seeing if it shoots up. Is this an efficient way to test if my h/g is gone other than compression testing?

02-11-2006, 05:04 PM	#29
MELLOSOS* LAID OUT Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: LAS VEGAS Age: 43 Posts: 2,015 Trader Rating: (1) Rides Gallery: MELLO*SOS Feedback Score: 1 reviews	it will quickly tell you if you have major problems with the HG, same as the sweet smelling white smoke pouring out the exhaust... For a more detailed look you should do a leak down test on each cylinder. I didn't know you still had the mechanical fan, I guess I missed that part. Not as bad as running "no fans"... But do you have/are you using the mech fan shroud? It helps the fan pull air through the radiator and without it some people have run into overheating issues.

02-11-2006, 05:24 PM	#30
wootwoot Post Whore! Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: sarasota florida biatch Age: 39 Posts: 3,850 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	oh whoops, I thought you meant NO fans. Stock clutch fan is better then most e fans as long as you have the frickin shroud __________________ I'm from Florida so I'm probably a bit more strange than you