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Old 02-20-2006, 11:20 PM   #1
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Importing a Skyline into the USA FAQ thread...

Ok so i figured to clear up some rumors or questions anyone has about importing cars into the USA i would write this thread...Note that this may or may not apply to the state or province that you live in...



I imported a 91 Gts-t about 2 years ago...The car was ordered from a web site called Batfa.com...Yes it is a legit web site that sells cars out of yokahama japan. The car took 6 months to arrive...Why so long because at the time i didn't know it was not going to be frighted in. Instead the car was driven on and off the boat...you mite say oh thats no so bad but the shipping company scratched the car and it was just a big mess...anyhow im fixing to give you the 411 on what you can and can't do importing a skyline or just about any car into the USA.

The first thing is finding a reliable place to buy a car. Since most of us can't go to japan we have to shop from our comps here in the states. Like i said before, i went out on a limb and risked loosing a large sum of money and bought a skyline from japan from Batfa.com. The car took six months to get here and trust me it was not easy i had to call the us imbassy many times. So to avoid this problem you will have to figure out what port you want the car shipped to. I had mine shipped to what once was Port of New Orleans. Now if your intrested listen up because this is what you will need to do.

First depending where you buy your car, make contact with the seller over the phone which is your basic long distance buying guildlines. Once your money transfer is made and you have picked your car and port the next step is finding what is called a import and export broker. You can call any Port in the usa or your local customs to find legit brokers. If anyone needs a list i still have mine. Anyhow your broker will be able to arrange for the car to be picked up and loaded onto the boat. I recommend renting a crate but if your straped for cash (free) load is exceptable. No it's not free shipping it just means that the cargo is not contained in anything. Not sure about shipping charges because they fluxuate with the economy. I remember i paid 900 for shipping to the US. When the car arrives you will be required to pay fees such as your broker fee+customs fees which are about the most exspensive...Broker fees run about 150-200 bucks and customs fees are around 350-400.

When the car comes in you will have to wait at 7a.m. in the morning like i did to pick it up. Make sure to number the truck and trailer when you go to pick it up...They will ask you your truck number. Just make a number up like (m7).
Not sure about other places but Batfa.com sent all documents of the car in the mail. When you get a broker they will probibly send it to them. Note you can not pick your vehicle up with out a broker.

Once you get your car for hevens sake i know it's hard but do not drive it on the street. They will impound and smash it. I was lucky that the red necks that live in texas don't know what a skyline is. There has been this long rumor about only being able to have the car one year before customs comes to pick it up. Not true at all, because leaglly you can own and posses the car as long as you want and still not be legal. What i am telling you is not speculation but fact.

To get a skyline or any other car legal is not so much exspensive as it is a pain in the ass. Your first move is to have your loacl officals check the car to make sure your paper work matchs and that it is not stolen. You can have this done at your local dmv. Just call and ask them what to do and they will direct you. Ask your broker to help you because they can often help speed the paper work up faster. As for the car itself (91 gts-t) the exhaust passes emesions but had to be replaced due to rust. That was just about the only thing that was replaced...After the car has been checked by your local dot to insure that it was not stolen then you will move to your next challenge. You will need a special form that your broker will have and i don't recall the number of the form but they will know. Once you have this form and the form givin by your local dmv officer, you will then need to contact your local EPA officals. Don't get nervous about these guys because the ones i delt with were very nice and helpful. When you call ask for the head guy so as to not get the run around. They will have you bring the car to the inspection area and in my case just give it a quick look over. Sometimes they will check emissions but not always. After that it's just a matter of handling basic paper work such as registration and inspection. The dot and epa officers will help direct you. I strongly recommend not trying this in calli but try at your own risk. This does work and the car will be legal in your state. Now federal wise i don't know because thats a diffrent story.

If anyone would like any more info on the feel free to reply...note paper work is way less hassle for cars that we have in the states...
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Doing it 101% federally legally? Cost prohibitive, if you can even manage to wade through the bureaucracy. Go to Freshalloy's GT-R forum.

there are cheaper ways to go faster for less work (z06, evo, sti, used stuff)

Doing it not 100% federally legally? Easy. You just gotta know a guy.

Heck...import as parts and cross your fingers.

Theoretically, you want one that looks as stock as possible on the outside and in a non-attention grabbing color. Then drive discreetly. Problemsolved.
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Your car is illegal.

End of discussion.

This has been discussed numerous times.

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accually it's not the car is legal in the state of texas and thats all that matters to me...sorry if you don't know what your talking about but hey not my problem.....oh and people don't always buy them to be fast some buy them because they are unique...
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But they're not unique. There's like a million of them in Australia alone. That's like saying an Escort is unique. It may be unique to you in your area, but you need to emphasize that.
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Unless he imports a Nismo one, then maybe he'd have an argument. Hey if Bill Gates can get his way, so can us poor folks.

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I dont think you guys fully appreciate the information he happens to have given you. Although I knew about this for quite some time... most people believe that only special companies (i.e. motorex) could import a skyline into the united states.

If the car is checked by the state patrol, passes emissions, and the epa gives it a thumbs up... there is nothing but import paperwork.
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Although I probably wont be doing it, great job on sharing the info (taking the time and effort to help out).
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I dont think you guys fully appreciate the information he happens to have given you...
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Despite what all the haters are saying.....


Thanks a lot for the info you have shared. Although it may not work for everyone, it is obviously working for you..... You had the balls to try it, so more power to you....

i envy your car...
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Thanks a lot for the info you have shared. Although it may not work for everyone, it is obviously working for you..... You had the balls to try it, so more power to you....

i envy your car...
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By cars existing in the US, do you mean variations of the car, or the exact car? Like would an early evo be easier to import than an S15, because the evo body style was sold here as a wimpy little Mirage?

But in terms of the haters, Cali guys seem to be overly cynical about all this because of the whole gestapo approach to vehicle legislation that california has compared to the rest of the US.
When I was in wisconsin, I saw unfederalized Evo V's and R32 GTRs registered.
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But they're not unique. There's like a million of them in Australia alone. That's like saying an Escort is unique. It may be unique to you in your area, but you need to emphasize that.
Who the fuck needs to explain that the car is unique in there area when they are talking about importing it to the states? How many skylines do you see around you? How about texas, ok then.

When I was in italy I saw more lambos then I do over here but each one gathered alot of attention everytime it drove by.

Quit trying to shit on someone else that was trying to help other people out.
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:bump: for the report also
I remember once I tried going through the hoops to import a vehicle from japan to the states, Through the military.
Was my first time trying, and couldnt finish everything due to me starting the process late.
But all n all I'm happy for you.
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State legal does not equal federally legal.

I could drive to some backwater DMV in the boonies of california and register a formula 1 car, that doesn't mean it's legal.

In any case anyone that is actually capable of getting a skyline probably doesn't need to go to an online forum to see how to do it, and 99% of the people here will never have the resources or determination to do it anyways.
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the car plus shipping cost me in total 4500 bucks...you saying you can't swing that....thats sad...

Skylines are unique....every time i stop at the gas station i get mauled by a crowd...They are unique here in the states...Maybe not in japan but you know what...thats japan thousands of mles away...

The point of this was...if you wanna do it then it's possible...even if it's a back water dmv...it will still make the call legal in your state....not being federaly legal just means you can't register the car in another state...but the thing is you can you just have to go about it the same way you did in your first state...Did you know you can get a gtr r32 for 10k on batfa....oh but thats not worth having right....like i said before you can do this with any car...and if we have it here like a 180sx it just makes it all that more easy to do paper work....
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the car plus shipping cost me in total 4500 bucks...you saying you can't swing that....thats sad...

Skylines are unique....every time i stop at the gas station i get mauled by a crowd...They are unique here in the states...Maybe not in japan but you know what...thats japan thousands of mles away...

The point of this was...if you wanna do it then it's possible...even if it's a back water dmv...it will still make the call legal in your state....not being federaly legal just means you can't register the car in another state...but the thing is you can you just have to go about it the same way you did in your first state...Did you know you can get a gtr r32 for 10k on batfa....oh but thats not worth having right....like i said before you can do this with any car...and if we have it here like a 180sx it just makes it all that more easy to do paper work....
Yeah, batfa has some cheap silvias/180sx's...the only thing that keeps me from SERIOUSLY looking into it is it being RHD

Thanks again for the info man.
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almost there.

no mention of dot crash safety requirements and federal epa standards=not completely thought through=not federally legal=still partially illegal.

nice state-level write-up though.
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no, being not federally legal means customs can take it from you and press charges ...if they want.

If the risk does not mean anything to you, then by all means, do wutever to get your crowd-drawing skyline.

For 5 grand, you got a 15 year old car that originally cost $40 grand, that could possibly get you into shit depending on how hard the government wants to fuck you. Hooray for you?

you aren't the first to bring a jdm car to america, you won't be the last, and only fanbois still wet their pants at seeing a skyline in person. Honda folks have been doing that same shit for years, new kids still go bonkers at seeing a jdm SiR.

again...spend even a bit of time on FreshAlloy's GT-R forum, which has been following the Motorex debacle since the beginning, and all of this is old news
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Question?
When did the 1990~99 GTR become illegal?
As far as the DOT and NHTSA says direct from the web site is that they comform and meet requirements for here.

http://dmses.dot.gov/docimages/pdf42/70703_web.pdf

http://www.nhtsa.dot.gov/cars/rules/import/

They have yet to repost a PDF file or any information regarding it being illegal
so this rule still stands right?
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yay, sounds like there is some hope
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But according to that, it means it would be harder to import a rhd S13 or S14 since a left hand drive version is easily available in the US.
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When did the 1990~99 GTR become illegal?
As far as the DOT and NHTSA says direct from the web site is that they comform and meet requirements for here.

http://dmses.dot.gov/docimages/pdf42/70703_web.pdf

http://www.nhtsa.dot.gov/cars/rules/import/

They have yet to repost a PDF file or any information regarding it being illegal
so this rule still stands right?
i didn't read anything that stated any skyline is legal. I did read about modifications that needed to be performed to legalize them. but a fresh-off-the-boat skyline is not legal.

Motorex had a skyline importing and legalizing service before the y went out o' business.
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On FA, the big issue was they could never get 96 and higher cars fully legalized due to crash and emissions shit with OBDII.
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Who the fuck needs to explain that the car is unique in there area when they are talking about importing it to the states? How many skylines do you see around you? How about texas, ok then.

When I was in italy I saw more lambos then I do over here but each one gathered alot of attention everytime it drove by.

Quit trying to shit on someone else that was trying to help other people out.
There's a BNR33 sitting right behind my shop, so I really don't have to look very far at all to see one. And it looks like any other car after seeing it a few times.
Honestly, they're great cars and this one will be fun when we get it finished, but it's not like I have to jerk off to it daily like some of you guys seem to think is a requirement. It's a car, nothing more. Lambos are cool as hell too, but I don't get off seeing one if I do, and I'll survive if I don't see it.
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I would rather have a clean unmodded S15 but the rhd part would suck.
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I like the write up, and I am glad to see that it work for you in Texas.
Real quick Fedeal law superseeds State law, that is the problem with motor swapps. That is a whole new argument though. Motorex laid the ground work for importing Skylines, They had the money so they could do the testing for DOT. For a car to be DOT compliant there is a ton of stuff to do ie. Crash testing, emissions testing, and such.
I have spent many hours researching doing this for Silvia's and 180SX, I came to the conclussion that it was not cost effective to do it by the book.
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Unless he imports a Nismo one, then maybe he'd have an argument. Hey if Bill Gates can get his way, so can us poor folks.

http://www.canepa.com/SportsLuxury/S...leAutoweek.asp


Canepa's shop is in SANTA CRUZ?
well then.

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it's so much easier in Canada to get a R32 GTR, Silvia or 180sx..
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it's so much easier in Canada to get a R32 GTR, Silvia or 180sx..
yea i wanna move to canada and drive jdm cars. did they make lhd s15's?
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So if something's legalized in Canada, how hard would it be to cross it over state-side?
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