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sw20>>s14 · 02-21-2006, 12:30 AM

so, i havent driven my car in about two weeks total and it always had a tendency to drain the battery...after the first week of sitting, i pulled my car from my space across the street, into my driveway; about 25 feet...no jump needed...idled for about one minute and shut it off...

since then, i havent turned it over for about another week...finally today, i wanted to get an alignment so i jumped it...started fine, but nothing inside the car worked! meaning the whole cluster, interior dome light, moonroof, map lights, radio, windows...everything, except for the hvac didnt work...i also noticed that after being jumped, it idled as if it was warmed up (low idle indicated by sound; the tach was out)...it hasnt been started in over a week, the idle should have been a lot higher or at least in open loop...

my car keeps on dying, thats the alternator, but what is causing nothing inside to work properly? i checked all the fuses and they seem to be fine...the only thing i can think of is that when i was jumping it, i wasnt paying attention and reversed the + and - on the source (my camry)...would reverse polarity mess anything up on my car? sorry, but i suck at electrical diagnostics...any help would be greatly appreciated...

daryl337 · 02-21-2006, 01:06 AM

reversing polarities is always bad... but you said that your fuses were fine? Check for a short in the wiring... or maybe there is a fuse you forgot to check.

Also, try ecu.

Maeda · 02-21-2006, 01:15 AM

Relays son.

Inside the car means it's either a fuse or a relay, or else you did something reallllly bad and have to go smelling wires.

Jumping the car does a number on your fuses. Some might not break but be weak and not conducting well.

Theres another scenario.
If you aren't driving the car around you aint charging that battery for SHIT.
Idling doesn't count.

Throttle until you're at 2000 RPMs.
Hold for 10 minutes.

Interior electronics crap out at about 9v.

Weak battery
No REAL charging taking place
= bing bing low voltage.

You win!

NEXT time you jump the car, drive it for a good half hour and then when you park it...
Take off the negative!

sw20>>s14 · 03-08-2006, 04:37 PM

i realize that you have to drive in order to charge...i may want to add that i didnt crank it while it had swapped terminals...i just saw a spark and took it off...

now, i talked to a few nissan techs and they said it definitely wasnt the relays...they suggested that it may be the "link fuse" on the positive terminal...but i cant seem to i.d. what they were describing...does anyone have experience testing or replacing this "link fuse"...

i have no problem driving w/o the ammenities of interior options for a while, but i definitely do not want to mess the odometer reading...is the odometer electrical or mechanical? because if it still ticks, ill drive it...im assuming its electrical due to the sensors...just checking...

my car still isnt operating up to par and the moral of the story is: DO NOT ATTEMPT TO JUMP A CAR WHILE VERBALLY FENDING OFF AN ERRATIC MOTHER!

RedtopTech · 03-08-2006, 07:14 PM

dude your an idiot. lots of weird things happen when your battery voltage is low_ you asked for help and you got the right answer then you ignore it

*NemeGuero* · 03-09-2006, 05:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RedtopTech

dude your an idiot. lots of weird things happen when your battery voltage is low_ you asked for help and you got the right answer then you ignore it

You're pink. And it shows why.

slider2828 · 03-09-2006, 02:08 AM

Ok man... check your main fuse box. Fusible links are the large SQUARE fuses. Check them very closely cause they can have a hair line break. Secondly, there is a fuse box inside your car and a huge one in fact. It is in the kick panel of the driver side. IMHO nissan techs suck sorry if I am offending anyone.

sw20>>s14 · 03-09-2006, 02:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RedtopTech

dude your an idiot. lots of weird things happen when your battery voltage is low_ you asked for help and you got the right answer then you ignore it

it may sound like it, but i did not rule out maeda's suggestion...i just havent had time to charge the battery so i havent tried it...but please excuse me for not living life dependent on what is obviously the easiest solution...i like to be prepared, hence asking for further info on what else it could be...what the hell is wrong with gathering all the possible solutions and then executing? people have different ways of doing things, deal with it you douche

Quote:

Originally Posted by slider2828

Ok man... check your main fuse box. Fusible links are the large SQUARE fuses. Check them very closely cause they can have a hair line break. Secondly, there is a fuse box inside your car and a huge one in fact. It is in the kick panel of the driver side. IMHO nissan techs suck sorry if I am offending anyone.

yeah, i realize that there is a fuse box inside the car...i just wasnt familiar with the term fusible links and couldnt find them...now i have a better understanding of where they are, thanks

BoNyG515 · 03-09-2006, 05:30 PM

I can probably swing by and check it out...if you need the help

Nizzan4u2nv · 03-09-2006, 05:40 PM

Ive done that once. Turns out the ALT fuse was blown.

02-21-2006, 12:30 AM	#1
sw20>>s14 Post Whore! Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: bay area Posts: 5,656 Trader Rating: (19) Feedback Score: 19 reviews	nothing inside works!!! electrical advice needed!!! so, i havent driven my car in about two weeks total and it always had a tendency to drain the battery...after the first week of sitting, i pulled my car from my space across the street, into my driveway; about 25 feet...no jump needed...idled for about one minute and shut it off... since then, i havent turned it over for about another week...finally today, i wanted to get an alignment so i jumped it...started fine, but nothing inside the car worked! meaning the whole cluster, interior dome light, moonroof, map lights, radio, windows...everything, except for the hvac didnt work...i also noticed that after being jumped, it idled as if it was warmed up (low idle indicated by sound; the tach was out)...it hasnt been started in over a week, the idle should have been a lot higher or at least in open loop... my car keeps on dying, thats the alternator, but what is causing nothing inside to work properly? i checked all the fuses and they seem to be fine...the only thing i can think of is that when i was jumping it, i wasnt paying attention and reversed the + and - on the source (my camry)...would reverse polarity mess anything up on my car? sorry, but i suck at electrical diagnostics...any help would be greatly appreciated... __________________ s14\| y34\| 911 gts\| exige s\| 600rr\| r3\| 250r\| 85 girlfriend

02-21-2006, 01:15 AM	#3
Maeda Nissanaholic! Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Camp Snake Bite, CA RIP Posts: 2,356 Trader Rating: (0) Rides Gallery: Maeda Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Relays son. Inside the car means it's either a fuse or a relay, or else you did something reallllly bad and have to go smelling wires. Jumping the car does a number on your fuses. Some might not break but be weak and not conducting well. Theres another scenario. If you aren't driving the car around you aint charging that battery for SHIT. Idling doesn't count. Throttle until you're at 2000 RPMs. Hold for 10 minutes. Interior electronics crap out at about 9v. Weak battery No REAL charging taking place = bing bing low voltage. You win! NEXT time you jump the car, drive it for a good half hour and then when you park it... Take off the negative! __________________

03-08-2006, 04:37 PM	#4
sw20>>s14 Post Whore! Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: bay area Posts: 5,656 Trader Rating: (19) Feedback Score: 19 reviews	i realize that you have to drive in order to charge...i may want to add that i didnt crank it while it had swapped terminals...i just saw a spark and took it off... now, i talked to a few nissan techs and they said it definitely wasnt the relays...they suggested that it may be the "link fuse" on the positive terminal...but i cant seem to i.d. what they were describing...does anyone have experience testing or replacing this "link fuse"... i have no problem driving w/o the ammenities of interior options for a while, but i definitely do not want to mess the odometer reading...is the odometer electrical or mechanical? because if it still ticks, ill drive it...im assuming its electrical due to the sensors...just checking... my car still isnt operating up to par and the moral of the story is: DO NOT ATTEMPT TO JUMP A CAR WHILE VERBALLY FENDING OFF AN ERRATIC MOTHER! __________________ s14\| y34\| 911 gts\| exige s\| 600rr\| r3\| 250r\| 85 girlfriend

03-09-2006, 05:30 PM	#9
BoNyG515 Leaky Injector Join Date: May 2004 Location: San Francisco Age: 39 Posts: 106 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I can probably swing by and check it out...if you need the help __________________ "Sugar we're going down swinging..."

03-09-2006, 05:40 PM	#10
Nizzan4u2nv Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: San Diego Age: 40 Posts: 1,226 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	Ive done that once. Turns out the ALT fuse was blown. __________________

02-21-2006, 01:06 AM	#2
daryl337 Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Pac NW Age: 39 Posts: 589 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	reversing polarities is always bad... but you said that your fuses were fine? Check for a short in the wiring... or maybe there is a fuse you forgot to check. Also, try ecu.

03-08-2006, 07:14 PM	#5
RedtopTech Zilvia Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Virginia Beach, VA Age: 40 Posts: 293 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	dude your an idiot. lots of weird things happen when your battery voltage is low_ you asked for help and you got the right answer then you ignore it

03-09-2006, 02:08 AM	#7
slider2828 Post Whore! Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 6,040 Trader Rating: (13) Feedback Score: 13 reviews	Ok man... check your main fuse box. Fusible links are the large SQUARE fuses. Check them very closely cause they can have a hair line break. Secondly, there is a fuse box inside your car and a huge one in fact. It is in the kick panel of the driver side. IMHO nissan techs suck sorry if I am offending anyone.