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Jordn · 10-28-2009, 02:37 PM

Does anyone know .......

a.) What fitment buld I need? H4?
b.) Do I need hi/lo or normal? I think my full beams are on the inside of the two squares
c.) Any other issues with fitting them?
d.) Anyone retro-fitted projectors into dual squares?

los_inc · 10-28-2009, 02:39 PM

H4 kit should do it
i think the other bulb is a H3
its basically a built in fog light
cheers
-los

Jordn · 10-28-2009, 02:45 PM

Not sure if my setup is different as my car is a JDM import but my outside light is the normal beam and the inside light is full/high beam. Is that how it is on US models?

punxva · 10-28-2009, 03:04 PM

we didnt have silvias usdm but yeah thats the same way, h4 for the lows thats what my roommate is running

**ThatGuy** · 10-28-2009, 03:09 PM

The H4 is your High/Low.

The H3c has been disputed as either a fog light, or a supplemental high beam, meaning when you click on your high beams, all four lights should be on.

But bottom line, DON"T put HIDs in bricks. They were NEVER designed to have HIDs in them.
Swapping proper projectors into them would be better for light output, but it would look horribly goofy.
If you want to do a HID projector swap, then start with a set of dual or triple projector lamps.

jdm2191 · 10-28-2009, 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by ThatGuy

The H4 is your High/Low.

The H3c has been disputed as either a fog light, or a supplemental high beam, meaning when you click on your high beams, all four lights should be on.

But bottom line, DON"T put HIDs in bricks. They were NEVER designed to have HIDs in them.
Swapping proper projectors into them would be better for light output, but it would look horribly goofy.
If you want to do a HID projector swap, then start with a set of dual or triple projector lamps.

Bricks are not good with HID's I didn't know that?

What the reason for that? Have you heard of any bad experiences?

I would really like to know because I'm planning on buying hid's for my bricks & I would like to know what's the bad about them before I do or don't buy em...

drift freaq · 10-28-2009, 03:14 PM

Bricks are pretty impossible to modify. Clearcorners.com would have done it already if it was possible seeing as he has modded all the other Silvia headlamps. Including my S15's.

**ThatGuy** · 10-28-2009, 03:22 PM

The lighting patterns of the bricks in stock form is piss poor at best. Adding HIDs just adds brighter scattered light. You are not getting lights that are any better, just spread out more.

Evidently you have not been doing your research, as the poor lighting provided by these headlights has been discussed NUMEROUS times.

They are the best looking of the S13 Silvia headlights, but they provide the worst lighting.

Jordn · 10-28-2009, 03:30 PM

Meh, I don't care a great deal about scattered beam. I'd rather have bright scattered beam than dull scattered beam.

I wondered how bad projectors set at the back of the dual squares would look.

**ThatGuy** · 10-28-2009, 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Jordn

Meh, I don't care a great deal about scattered beam. I'd rather have bright scattered beam than dull scattered beam.

Sure, I mean who cares about anybody else that might be on the road?

Jordn · 10-29-2009, 03:42 AM

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Originally Posted by ThatGuy

Sure, I mean who cares about anybody else that might be on the road?

You do?

Joking aside, I do about 2000 road miles a year in the S13, mostly on the way to or from tracks, I won't be wiping out MUCH of the population with my headlamp-blinding actions.

9s13Coupe3SX - we are the democratic poster-children of the world - our problem is we care TOO MUCH about everyone else. I'm addressing the balance, one mis-directed HID bulb at a time.

Brian · 10-28-2009, 03:31 PM

Jord, projectors would look TERRIBLE in there.

9s13Coupe3SX · 10-28-2009, 03:56 PM

guy is from the uk, they don't care about others well being.

Quail · 10-28-2009, 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by 9s13Coupe3SX

guy is from the uk, they don't care about others well being.

How did you figure that one out?

SK'92RPS13 · 10-28-2009, 04:36 PM

I'm from Amerrrrrika! and don't care 'bout others either but I pretend to. Just Like my Government. jeje

SR_Vlurs · 10-28-2009, 04:32 PM

with the exception of your bro we love you lol

monkeyslide17 · 10-28-2009, 04:33 PM

Dont mean to jack ur page or nothing. So hid's h4 will work in the dual what about the trip? and what about fog light?

Again not trying to jack ur page or nothing.

**ThatGuy** · 10-29-2009, 04:09 AM

So, if it's barely on the road, why even bother with the HIDs?

Jordn · 10-29-2009, 05:36 AM

I'll just take the lights out completely then I guess.

OR because the HIDs would be better for late-drift events and also, they look kinda cool.

Annnywaaaay, does anyone know if the HID 'bulb' bits fit inside the lamps OK? I've read somewhere about the reflector thingy getting in the way.

projectRDM · 10-29-2009, 10:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Jordn

I'll just take the lights out completely then I guess.

OR because the HIDs would be better for late-drift events and also, they look kinda cool.

Spoken like a true Schassis owner. "I just want to buy useless shit that serves no purpose and will effectively be a waste of time, effort, and money, but it looks really cool and bandwagonning fanboys will be impressed".

Jordn · 10-30-2009, 04:19 AM

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Originally Posted by projectRDM

Spoken like a true Schassis owner. "I just want to buy useless shit that serves no purpose and will effectively be a waste of time, effort, and money, but it looks really cool and bandwagonning fanboys will be impressed".

Spoken like a true Zilvia user. "I just want to jump on your thread to have a dig and offer no actual useful advice".

My car, my money, why are you bothered?

Feel free to close this thread, I've found out what I need to.

***S14DB*** · 10-29-2009, 10:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jordn

I'll just take the lights out completely then I guess.

OR because the HIDs would be better for late-drift events and also, they look kinda cool.

Annnywaaaay, does anyone know if the HID 'bulb' bits fit inside the lamps OK? I've read somewhere about the reflector thingy getting in the way.

Can't pass MOT with them:

Charsiu · 10-29-2009, 04:45 PM

Have you ever get blind from the huge truck or SUV from behind?

Now is the time to do something XD

HID in Brick has been covered before, the light pattern isn't good but not bad compare to any non-HID housing w/ HID installed.

hellaslows13 · 10-29-2009, 10:56 PM

^ Great video, I almost got into 2 accidents with people who blind me with their shitty HID's.

**ThatGuy** · 10-30-2009, 04:55 AM

Considering no one has posted any information in this thread, that you couldn't have originally found for yourself with a bit of work, this thread never should have existed.

If you can't handle the criticism, then don't post your ideas.

10-28-2009, 02:37 PM	#1
Jordn Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Peterborough, England, UK, Across the pond. Age: 42 Posts: 304 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	HIDs into Silvia Dual Square 'Bricks' Does anyone know ....... a.) What fitment buld I need? H4? b.) Do I need hi/lo or normal? I think my full beams are on the inside of the two squares c.) Any other issues with fitting them? d.) Anyone retro-fitted projectors into dual squares? __________________ drifted.com

10-28-2009, 02:39 PM	#2
los_inc Zilvia Addict Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: New Joisey Bro. Age: 40 Posts: 826 Trader Rating: (15) Feedback Score: 15 reviews	H4 kit should do it i think the other bulb is a H3 its basically a built in fog light cheers -los __________________

10-28-2009, 02:45 PM	#3
Jordn Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Peterborough, England, UK, Across the pond. Age: 42 Posts: 304 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	Not sure if my setup is different as my car is a JDM import but my outside light is the normal beam and the inside light is full/high beam. Is that how it is on US models? __________________ drifted.com

10-28-2009, 03:09 PM	#5
ThatGuy Admin Asshole Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Retired Age: 45 Posts: 20,394 Trader Rating: (0) Rides Gallery: ThatGuy Feedback Score: 0 reviews	The H4 is your High/Low. The H3c has been disputed as either a fog light, or a supplemental high beam, meaning when you click on your high beams, all four lights should be on. But bottom line, DON"T put HIDs in bricks. They were NEVER designed to have HIDs in them. Swapping proper projectors into them would be better for light output, but it would look horribly goofy. If you want to do a HID projector swap, then start with a set of dual or triple projector lamps. __________________ "Speak softly,..." -Pres. Teddy Roosevelt "Be polite, be professional, ..." -Gen. James Mattis

10-28-2009, 03:14 PM	#7
drift freaq R.I.P. Aya, always love Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Los Feliz/Hollywood Posts: 18,564 Trader Rating: (215) Rides Gallery: drift freaq Feedback Score: 215 reviews	Bricks are pretty impossible to modify. Clearcorners.com would have done it already if it was possible seeing as he has modded all the other Silvia headlamps. Including my S15's. __________________ "Having a lot of tracks on a song is like putting stickers on a car to get more horsepower" New Video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uebV1OnbRsw Buy my mounts! http://zilvia.net/f/sale-items/51531...ns-mounts.html http://zilvia.net/f/tech-talk/317539...e-mouts-6.html

10-28-2009, 03:22 PM	#8
ThatGuy Admin Asshole Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Retired Age: 45 Posts: 20,394 Trader Rating: (0) Rides Gallery: ThatGuy Feedback Score: 0 reviews	The lighting patterns of the bricks in stock form is piss poor at best. Adding HIDs just adds brighter scattered light. You are not getting lights that are any better, just spread out more. Evidently you have not been doing your research, as the poor lighting provided by these headlights has been discussed NUMEROUS times. They are the best looking of the S13 Silvia headlights, but they provide the worst lighting. __________________ "Speak softly,..." -Pres. Teddy Roosevelt "Be polite, be professional, ..." -Gen. James Mattis

10-28-2009, 03:30 PM	#9
Jordn Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Peterborough, England, UK, Across the pond. Age: 42 Posts: 304 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	Meh, I don't care a great deal about scattered beam. I'd rather have bright scattered beam than dull scattered beam. I wondered how bad projectors set at the back of the dual squares would look. __________________ drifted.com

10-28-2009, 03:31 PM	#12
Brian Post Whore! Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: usa Posts: 12,840 Trader Rating: (54) Rides Gallery: Brian Feedback Score: 54 reviews	Jord, projectors would look TERRIBLE in there. __________________ http://bhworld.wordpress.com/

10-28-2009, 03:56 PM	#13
9s13Coupe3SX Zilvia Addict Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Somewhere Ca Posts: 800 Trader Rating: (48) Feedback Score: 48 reviews	guy is from the uk, they don't care about others well being.

10-28-2009, 04:36 PM	#15
SK'92RPS13 Leaky Injector Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Mid-City Los Angeles Age: 38 Posts: 122 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	I'm from Amerrrrrika! and don't care 'bout others either but I pretend to. Just Like my Government. jeje

10-28-2009, 04:32 PM	#16
SR_Vlurs Zilvia Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: in the worse place in the world ..... Posts: 284 Trader Rating: (2) Feedback Score: 2 reviews	with the exception of your bro we love you lol __________________ ¿$phinx?

10-28-2009, 04:33 PM	#17
monkeyslide17 Leaky Injector Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: atlanta Age: 44 Posts: 116 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Dont mean to jack ur page or nothing. So hid's h4 will work in the dual what about the trip? and what about fog light? Again not trying to jack ur page or nothing. __________________

10-29-2009, 04:09 AM	#18
ThatGuy Admin Asshole Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Retired Age: 45 Posts: 20,394 Trader Rating: (0) Rides Gallery: ThatGuy Feedback Score: 0 reviews	So, if it's barely on the road, why even bother with the HIDs? __________________ "Speak softly,..." -Pres. Teddy Roosevelt "Be polite, be professional, ..." -Gen. James Mattis

10-29-2009, 05:36 AM	#19
Jordn Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Peterborough, England, UK, Across the pond. Age: 42 Posts: 304 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	I'll just take the lights out completely then I guess. OR because the HIDs would be better for late-drift events and also, they look kinda cool. Annnywaaaay, does anyone know if the HID 'bulb' bits fit inside the lamps OK? I've read somewhere about the reflector thingy getting in the way. __________________ drifted.com

10-29-2009, 04:45 PM	#23
Charsiu Leaky Injector Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Bay Area, CA Posts: 97 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Have you ever get blind from the huge truck or SUV from behind? Now is the time to do something XD HID in Brick has been covered before, the light pattern isn't good but not bad compare to any non-HID housing w/ HID installed.

10-29-2009, 10:56 PM	#24
hellaslows13 Zilvia Addict Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Bay Area, CA Age: 33 Posts: 914 Trader Rating: (28) Feedback Score: 28 reviews	^ Great video, I almost got into 2 accidents with people who blind me with their shitty HID's.

10-30-2009, 04:55 AM	#25
ThatGuy Admin Asshole Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Retired Age: 45 Posts: 20,394 Trader Rating: (0) Rides Gallery: ThatGuy Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Considering no one has posted any information in this thread, that you couldn't have originally found for yourself with a bit of work, this thread never should have existed. If you can't handle the criticism, then don't post your ideas. __________________ "Speak softly,..." -Pres. Teddy Roosevelt "Be polite, be professional, ..." -Gen. James Mattis