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stevejames3 · 06-12-2006, 10:49 PM

ok i know the 300zx TT hubs and shit wont work, but is there any way it will? like with the right axles and shit. i have a whole 300zx tt parts car and was wondering if using dif axels or anything this can work at all. thanks

***FaLKoN240*** · 06-12-2006, 10:58 PM

The rear 5 lug works perfectly, wtf are you talking about?

Nizzan4u2nv · 06-12-2006, 11:27 PM

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Originally Posted by 240FaLKoN

The rear 5 lug works perfectly, wtf are you talking about?

Z32 TT have different axle splines then the NA ones.

***FaLKoN240*** · 06-12-2006, 11:48 PM

AH, I didn't read the TT part. Haha, fuck man. Sounds like more effort than it's worth.

stevejames3 · 06-13-2006, 05:01 AM

well its a friend of mine, and hes closing up his shop. so hes giving me everything for 300 bucks. im talking EVERYTHING, wheels brakes hubs suspesions, pretty much a rolling chassi(yes including the gutted car). so i wanna know if its worth it to pick it up. if nothing works and its not gonna sell that fast sence none of its desired, i dont wanna waste the time and space.

sweet89s13 · 06-13-2006, 07:46 AM

Whats wrong with the 300ZX chassis? Has it been hit? Blown motor? What's the story on it. Id take the rolling chassis and work on that. 300Z's are great cars.

But on the other hand, no it wont work. I have a thread floating around in the tech forum and I had this same issue with my S13, I bought hubs that were supposed to be from a N/A and turned out they werent, so I got hosed on that. Sell some parts and buy a brand new conversion.

RPS1392 · 06-13-2006, 08:29 AM

From what ive read the rear spindles should be Aluminium instead of steel.
Check this out... it gives the whole proceedure for using z32 rear spindles.

http://www.nissanperformancemag.com/january03/240sx/

projectRDM · 06-13-2006, 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by RPS1392

From what ive read the rear spindles should be Aluminium instead of steel.
Check this out... it gives the whole proceedure for using z32 rear spindles.

http://www.nissanperformancemag.com/january03/240sx/

Welcome to Earth. We knew this 16 years ago. Problem is the TT cars all have HICAS, making the upright useless since there's a balljoint in place of the toe arm bushing.

In order to use Z32TT hubs you would need the axles as well due to the increased spline size, however this isn't an option since the axles are longer than S13/S14 and can't compress enough to fit the subframe. In other words, they're useless too.

rancid240 · 06-13-2006, 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by stevejames3

well its a friend of mine, and hes closing up his shop. so hes giving me everything for 300 bucks. im talking EVERYTHING, wheels brakes hubs suspesions, pretty much a rolling chassi(yes including the gutted car). so i wanna know if its worth it to pick it up. if nothing works and its not gonna sell that fast sence none of its desired, i dont wanna waste the time and space.

I think its worth it. Sans hubs, the brake system is worth more than $300.

RPS1392 · 06-13-2006, 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by R240NA

Problem is the TT cars all have HICAS, making the upright useless since there's a balljoint in place of the toe arm bushing.

In order to use Z32TT hubs you would need the axles as well due to the increased spline size, however this isn't an option since the axles are longer than S13/S14 and can't compress enough to fit the subframe. In other words, they're useless too.

Whats wrong with swapping the entire rear sub frame out?? That is what I did with mine, Although Mine is a R32 rear with HiCas. I just installed a HiCas Eliminator bar.

stevejames3 · 06-13-2006, 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by RPS1392

Whats wrong with swapping the entire rear sub frame out?? That is what I did with mine, Although Mine is a R32 rear with HiCas. I just installed a HiCas Eliminator bar.

anyone have any ideas or knowledge on that idea??

rancid240 · 06-13-2006, 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by stevejames3

anyone have any ideas or knowledge on that idea??

Z32 subframe is too wide to swap like that.

projectRDM · 06-13-2006, 02:51 PM

Exactly. Someone is full of shit.

usdm180sx · 06-13-2006, 03:28 PM

prolly if you get the diff and shit, axles and shit and hubs and shit

RPS1392 · 06-13-2006, 03:35 PM

Im sorry, did I offend you in some way? Whats with the aggressive behavior?
Please enlighten us with your wisdom, rather than picking on the people with less experience than you seem to have. In my last post I reffered to the R32 sub swap that I had done, and asked why you couldnt do that with the Z32. Rancid was gracious enough to provide us with an answer.

stevejames3 · 06-13-2006, 09:16 PM

well im not gonna do it, but what are your guys opinion on the brakes? he will probly just give me the wheels. but should i snag up the brakes? incase i do the 5 lug in the future. the only reason i was gonna do it was cuz it was gonna be dirty cheap.

phrozen · 06-13-2006, 09:35 PM

you can use z32 5lug rear hubs, its too mnuch work tho, have to use r200 q45 diff wiht like a z32 tt pass side axel and a j30 or q45 right side axel something like that theres a write up on it

***FaLKoN240*** · 06-14-2006, 01:25 AM

Take the brakes, and call it a day, then throw the car in a dumpster.

rancid240 · 06-14-2006, 09:28 AM

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Originally Posted by 240FaLKoN

Take the brakes, and call it a day, then throw the car in a dumpster.

+1...the brake system is worth more than $300.

Skullavera · 06-18-2006, 04:22 AM

If you take the brakes, also take the Master Cylinder, e-brake lines, and e-brake drum setup with the backing plates. For the rear calipers, make sure to also take the hard line as well if you're not replacing the lines when you decide to install them.

06-12-2006, 10:49 PM	#1
stevejames3 Zilvia Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: ohio Age: 39 Posts: 170 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	5 lug question ok i know the 300zx TT hubs and shit wont work, but is there any way it will? like with the right axles and shit. i have a whole 300zx tt parts car and was wondering if using dif axels or anything this can work at all. thanks

06-12-2006, 10:58 PM	#2
*FaLKoN240* Super Moderator Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: SoCal Temecula Posts: 16,893 Trader Rating: (73) Feedback Score: 73 reviews	The rear 5 lug works perfectly, wtf are you talking about? __________________ Best way to do business with me? Make your best offer FIRST.

06-12-2006, 11:48 PM	#4
*FaLKoN240* Super Moderator Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: SoCal Temecula Posts: 16,893 Trader Rating: (73) Feedback Score: 73 reviews	AH, I didn't read the TT part. Haha, fuck man. Sounds like more effort than it's worth. __________________ Best way to do business with me? Make your best offer FIRST.

06-13-2006, 07:46 AM	#6
sweet89s13 Zilvia Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: potsdam, ny Posts: 186 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Whats wrong with the 300ZX chassis? Has it been hit? Blown motor? What's the story on it. Id take the rolling chassis and work on that. 300Z's are great cars. But on the other hand, no it wont work. I have a thread floating around in the tech forum and I had this same issue with my S13, I bought hubs that were supposed to be from a N/A and turned out they werent, so I got hosed on that. Sell some parts and buy a brand new conversion. __________________ *SHIFT_SLIDE*

06-13-2006, 03:28 PM	#14
usdm180sx Post Whore! Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: 562 Posts: 4,807 Trader Rating: (5) Rides Gallery: usdm180sx Feedback Score: 5 reviews	prolly if you get the diff and shit, axles and shit and hubs and shit __________________ -Norm!

06-13-2006, 05:01 AM	#5
stevejames3 Zilvia Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: ohio Age: 39 Posts: 170 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	well its a friend of mine, and hes closing up his shop. so hes giving me everything for 300 bucks. im talking EVERYTHING, wheels brakes hubs suspesions, pretty much a rolling chassi(yes including the gutted car). so i wanna know if its worth it to pick it up. if nothing works and its not gonna sell that fast sence none of its desired, i dont wanna waste the time and space.

06-13-2006, 08:29 AM	#7
RPS1392 Zilvia Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: PNW Posts: 163 Trader Rating: (0) Rides Gallery: RPS1392 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	From what ive read the rear spindles should be Aluminium instead of steel. Check this out... it gives the whole proceedure for using z32 rear spindles. http://www.nissanperformancemag.com/january03/240sx/

06-13-2006, 02:51 PM	#13
projectRDM Post Whore! Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Atlanta Age: 51 Posts: 13,812 Trader Rating: (12) Feedback Score: 12 reviews	Exactly. Someone is full of shit.

06-13-2006, 03:35 PM	#15
RPS1392 Zilvia Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: PNW Posts: 163 Trader Rating: (0) Rides Gallery: RPS1392 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Im sorry, did I offend you in some way? Whats with the aggressive behavior? Please enlighten us with your wisdom, rather than picking on the people with less experience than you seem to have. In my last post I reffered to the R32 sub swap that I had done, and asked why you couldnt do that with the Z32. Rancid was gracious enough to provide us with an answer.

06-13-2006, 09:16 PM	#16
stevejames3 Zilvia Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: ohio Age: 39 Posts: 170 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	well im not gonna do it, but what are your guys opinion on the brakes? he will probly just give me the wheels. but should i snag up the brakes? incase i do the 5 lug in the future. the only reason i was gonna do it was cuz it was gonna be dirty cheap.

06-13-2006, 09:35 PM	#17
phrozen Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Bay Area Posts: 1,352 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	you can use z32 5lug rear hubs, its too mnuch work tho, have to use r200 q45 diff wiht like a z32 tt pass side axel and a j30 or q45 right side axel something like that theres a write up on it __________________ This box is 400x200: Please do not put your sig pic back if it exceeds this. -Moderation

06-14-2006, 01:25 AM	#18
*FaLKoN240* Super Moderator Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: SoCal Temecula Posts: 16,893 Trader Rating: (73) Feedback Score: 73 reviews	Take the brakes, and call it a day, then throw the car in a dumpster. __________________ Best way to do business with me? Make your best offer FIRST.

06-18-2006, 04:22 AM	#20
Skullavera Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: City of Angels Posts: 1,327 Trader Rating: (1) Rides Gallery: Skullavera Feedback Score: 1 reviews	If you take the brakes, also take the Master Cylinder, e-brake lines, and e-brake drum setup with the backing plates. For the rear calipers, make sure to also take the hard line as well if you're not replacing the lines when you decide to install them.