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240silvia · 04-06-2006, 07:32 PM

Alright, all opinions welcome! lol. These projectors are out of a S14 (Thanks DevonKyle). I took a piece of 22 gauge aluminum and cut it to fit flush in the housing. Tools included my HVAC Right-Hand Snips, HVAC Hole Cutter, and a Dremel. Once again this isn't finished, I still have to inclose the side of the projector. I have a vid that I will post later. The headlights still flip up. As far as the front of the projector. I plan to just leave it open, any issues with that? My 6000K HID's are on the way, I have Silverstars in there right now. I plan on painted the whole inside of the housing black so all you see is the glass of the projector.

-Charles

URBootLegDrifterS · 04-06-2006, 07:58 PM

The lighting at night looks pretty nice. What happens if it rains? Aren't you going to worry that the water will leak in?

***FaLKoN240*** · 04-06-2006, 08:16 PM

That looks pretty crazy, you think you could put the glass from a sealed beam over it? That would be pretty cool.

ALTRNTV · 04-06-2006, 08:24 PM

Interesting... You should cover the lights, but I'm sure it's not finished yet.

KwKouki · 04-06-2006, 08:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by URBootLegDrifterS

What happens if it rains? Aren't you going to worry that the water will leak in?

This is my main fear using projectors for my headlight conversion. The light output looks great though.

2iv0 sx · 04-06-2006, 08:45 PM

did you put yellow blubs in your canadian DTL?

JXN · 04-06-2006, 08:51 PM

looks very nice!!!!!

Maximamike · 04-06-2006, 09:07 PM

Bad ass cut off lines.

atom · 04-06-2006, 09:24 PM

So you're just gonna roll with no high beams? And yeah leaving them exposed like that is not good cuz they aren't sealed. If you want to leave it open you need to get something like the hella projectors which are designed to be used open element or you need to redesign the cover to weather seal it.

dct223 · 04-06-2006, 09:41 PM

wow nice cutoff lines from s14 kouki projectors?

chibo · 04-06-2006, 09:43 PM

Your cutoffs are wrong for American style roads ( drive on the right ). That will blind oncoming drivers, it should have the cutoff higher on the right, not the left... unless that picture is misleading me.

CaoBoY · 04-06-2006, 09:56 PM

^ blah blah blah. HID's from stock bimmers/audi's/tsx's blind ME. fuck those fools. haha, anyways, its not bad. i had HID in my jdm celsior (Lexus LS400 for you retards) headlights, and it pointed to the left, all you gotta do is re-aim them, and you will be fine. as long as he's lowered/ aims them down just a tad, it wont blind people. im speaking from experience here, i know that you wont blind people if you aim it right.

on topic.
are you going to fiberglass that projector housing, and seal it all up? that woudl look at lot better, fiberglass painted black, and some sort of plexiglass/lexan shielding it. good progress.

240silvia · 04-06-2006, 11:35 PM

yes I did put yellow bulbs in the CDL's. PIMP! lol.

As far as the housing goes. I'm trying to figure up some way to put plexi in front of it. Only problem is, I don't know where I'm going to attach it. The light can't go back any farther because it will hit the frame/rad support. I'm going to just sit and stare at it tomorrow and see if I can find a way to cover it. I'm pleased with it for now, lighting is good. No one flashed me tonight but i'm still going to aim them down a bit. I have some 200 degree water/air tight HVAC tape that I'm going to put on the outside of the projectors for now. So water won't be able to get into the actual bulb. But, I'm going to hold off on the HID's until I enclose it.

Any ideas???????????? All input welcome. You guys don't have to worry about me getting mad with negative comments. I view it as constructive criticism.

Thanks guys,
Charles

CaoBoY · 04-06-2006, 11:42 PM

make a convex piece of plexiglass?

ispypsi · 04-07-2006, 12:29 AM

i was told by some lighting gurus that the stock s14 projector lenses weren't the best for HID beam patterns, which is why some of them swapped over to bmw/e class/s2000 projector lenses in their s14's. ever heard of something similar? the cutoffs on those dont look that bad other than needing some lowering on the driver's side (re: i agree with it needs to be higher on the passenger side for us roads).

id like to see the finished product after some realigning of the beams, as id like to get some HIDs for my s14, but i'd like to see how the beam pattern is gonna be and if i can get away with just the stock projectors, as i dont want to screw up a good set of kouki headlights. of course, anything is better than the stock stuff i have now (plus a broken alignment pole so ill have to get a new set anyways)

240silvia · 04-07-2006, 01:35 AM

I'm going to work on the alignment issue tomorrow. I had an S14 with HID's and the light pattern was actually good. No, these projectors aren't the best for HID's. However, I only paid $50 shipped for both of them, compared to the S2000 projectors, which are $500. I think I came out pretty good.

Also, how in the hell do you make a convex piece of plexi??? lol. Someone please let me know.

Thanks, Charles.

240silvia · 04-07-2006, 01:24 PM

Here's a video of the first test run. You can't really see all that well until I get close. You guys know that camera's don't really pick up on lighting like this. Turn the sound up bitches!!!! lol. Anyway, without furthur adue...

http://videos.streetfire.net/video/0...2D758D8FD6.htm

SoSideways · 04-07-2006, 01:37 PM

Man I thought it was an in-car footage...

There was like 1 second of good sounds too.

Fail man

URBootLegDrifterS · 04-07-2006, 04:35 PM

I like the sound. The headlights look aite. I might go get some HIDs for my car as well. Could you really see a big difference with those HIDs with your kouki projectors?

darkG20t · 04-07-2006, 04:35 PM

I did a similar setup to yours using projectors from a civic housing. I have been running this without a cover for about 6 months now in rainy Washington State. My High beams have no cover at all over the bulb.

You'll be OK.

I like the blue lighting, I may have to buy some Silverstars.

lumbo007 · 04-07-2006, 04:53 PM

are they JDM projectors? if so, can you measure the size so i can look for HID projectors for a retrofit?

240silvia · 04-07-2006, 06:22 PM

The passenger side is a JDM projector, and the driver side is the USDM projector. As far as the difference between the two, the actual glass seems to be the same. The only visual difference is the brackets that hold the projectors.

alexchanman · 04-08-2006, 12:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ispypsi

i was told by some lighting gurus that the stock s14 projector lenses weren't the best for HID beam patterns, which is why some of them swapped over to bmw/e class/s2000 projector lenses in their s14's. ever heard of something similar? the cutoffs on those dont look that bad other than needing some lowering on the driver's side (re: i agree with it needs to be higher on the passenger side for us roads).

id like to see the finished product after some realigning of the beams, as id like to get some HIDs for my s14, but i'd like to see how the beam pattern is gonna be and if i can get away with just the stock projectors, as i dont want to screw up a good set of kouki headlights. of course, anything is better than the stock stuff i have now (plus a broken alignment pole so ill have to get a new set anyways)

the beam pattern for the s14 is gonna be terrible compared to any OEM HID projectors. this is because the s14 projectors are halogen projectors. if you want it done, you should get it done the real way with some HID projectors.

www.hidplanet.com go to the forums and read up about this first. there is a thread on there with a s2k projector swap into the kouki housing.

Maeda · 04-08-2006, 12:42 AM

Hey, nice thinking on the retro, but get super cheap H4 retro housings to put those projectors in.

The CHEAP H4 housings have a clear lense that shouldnt screw with the projector beam pattern much + your shit will be better protected.

240silvia · 04-08-2006, 01:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alexchanman

the beam pattern for the s14 is gonna be terrible compared to any OEM HID projectors. this is because the s14 projectors are halogen projectors. if you want it done, you should get it done the real way with some HID projectors.

www.hidplanet.com go to the forums and read up about this first. there is a thread on there with a s2k projector swap into the kouki housing.

This is very true to some extent. I had HID's in my old S14 and they looked great. Although they aren't HID projectors, they beat the hell out of spending $500 on the S2K projectors, and then another $300 on the HID's. I paid $50 shipped lol, and I"m damn happy.

I'm still putting together all of your ideas to cover the projector. Any ideas on the convex plexiglass???????

CaoBoY · 04-08-2006, 01:34 AM

design it, and take it to a plastic shop and ask them if they can make you a piece of plastic with x by x dimensions... or buy those cheap headligihts off ebay, with the plastic, and see if you can some how mold that on to the headlights. theres no way you can push the projector back at all? maybe use smaller projectors from s13 silvia headlights? hahah.

did you convert the plugs on your stock harness or what? i have an HID kit sitting in my room, and was thinking of just converting the stock headlights to the HELLAH H4 housing kit, and throwing the HID kit in there, re-aim, and have HID bling. :ghey: haha

*Jonnie Fraz* · 04-08-2006, 08:21 AM

+ 1 for the plastic fab shop. For sealing the back have you looked at the stock S14 seals? You might be able to get them to work.

alexchanman · 04-08-2006, 11:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 240silvia

This is very true to some extent. I had HID's in my old S14 and they looked great. Although they aren't HID projectors, they beat the hell out of spending $500 on the S2K projectors, and then another $300 on the HID's. I paid $50 shipped lol, and I"m damn happy.

I'm still putting together all of your ideas to cover the projector. Any ideas on the convex plexiglass???????

see if you can use some h4 housing kits. if the projectors stick out toooo far than your gonna have to go custom with it.

HyperTek · 04-08-2006, 12:05 PM

cool idea, I like your "DIY" approach since many are too scared to attempt.

Id do one up on that and get rid of the pop ups if I was gonna go with projectors.. Build some buckets to fit them in, and use some clear lexan plexiglass or something for the lense.. would be trick and not too expensive.

240silvia · 04-08-2006, 03:17 PM

The only problem with the plexi, is the projectors stick out past the black plastic housing. I guess I could trim it up a bit. How about something like this... **Paint skillzzzzz** lol.

04-06-2006, 07:32 PM	#1
240silvia Nissanaholic! Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Wilmington NC Age: 40 Posts: 2,060 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	S13 HID Retrofit!!!! In Progress Pics Alright, all opinions welcome! lol. These projectors are out of a S14 (Thanks DevonKyle). I took a piece of 22 gauge aluminum and cut it to fit flush in the housing. Tools included my HVAC Right-Hand Snips, HVAC Hole Cutter, and a Dremel. Once again this isn't finished, I still have to inclose the side of the projector. I have a vid that I will post later. The headlights still flip up. As far as the front of the projector. I plan to just leave it open, any issues with that? My 6000K HID's are on the way, I have Silverstars in there right now. I plan on painted the whole inside of the housing black so all you see is the glass of the projector. -Charles

04-06-2006, 08:16 PM	#3
*FaLKoN240* Super Moderator Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: SoCal Temecula Posts: 16,893 Trader Rating: (73) Feedback Score: 73 reviews	That looks pretty crazy, you think you could put the glass from a sealed beam over it? That would be pretty cool. __________________ Best way to do business with me? Make your best offer FIRST.

04-06-2006, 09:41 PM	#10
dct223 Nissanaholic! Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: hella NORCAL! Age: 39 Posts: 1,664 Trader Rating: (4) Feedback Score: 4 reviews	wow nice cutoff lines from s14 kouki projectors? __________________ Sfourteen

04-06-2006, 09:56 PM	#12
CaoBoY Zilvia Addict Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Central Valley Posts: 916 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	^ blah blah blah. HID's from stock bimmers/audi's/tsx's blind ME. fuck those fools. haha, anyways, its not bad. i had HID in my jdm celsior (Lexus LS400 for you retards) headlights, and it pointed to the left, all you gotta do is re-aim them, and you will be fine. as long as he's lowered/ aims them down just a tad, it wont blind people. im speaking from experience here, i know that you wont blind people if you aim it right. on topic. are you going to fiberglass that projector housing, and seal it all up? that woudl look at lot better, fiberglass painted black, and some sort of plexiglass/lexan shielding it. good progress. __________________ pulling outta the game: http://www.zilvia.net/f/showthread.p...wpost&t=119867 parting out, just let me know.

04-06-2006, 11:42 PM	#14
CaoBoY Zilvia Addict Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Central Valley Posts: 916 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	make a convex piece of plexiglass? __________________ pulling outta the game: http://www.zilvia.net/f/showthread.p...wpost&t=119867 parting out, just let me know.

04-06-2006, 07:58 PM	#2
URBootLegDrifterS Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Land of Rising Sun Posts: 7 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	The lighting at night looks pretty nice. What happens if it rains? Aren't you going to worry that the water will leak in?

04-06-2006, 08:24 PM	#4
ALTRNTV Post Whore! Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Western Conference Posts: 9,429 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Interesting... You should cover the lights, but I'm sure it's not finished yet.

04-06-2006, 08:45 PM	#6
2iv0 sx Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Lng Bch Calfna Posts: 1,442 Trader Rating: (20) Feedback Score: 20 reviews	did you put yellow blubs in your canadian DTL?

04-06-2006, 08:51 PM	#7
JXN BANNED Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: 626/909 Posts: 86 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	looks very nice!!!!!

04-06-2006, 09:07 PM	#8
Maximamike Zilvia Junkie Join Date: May 2005 Location: Stoughton, MA Posts: 369 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Bad ass cut off lines.

04-06-2006, 09:24 PM	#9
atom Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: San Francisco Posts: 1,196 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	So you're just gonna roll with no high beams? And yeah leaving them exposed like that is not good cuz they aren't sealed. If you want to leave it open you need to get something like the hella projectors which are designed to be used open element or you need to redesign the cover to weather seal it.

04-06-2006, 09:43 PM	#11
chibo Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Tempe and Scottsdale, Arizona Age: 37 Posts: 1,425 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Your cutoffs are wrong for American style roads ( drive on the right ). That will blind oncoming drivers, it should have the cutoff higher on the right, not the left... unless that picture is misleading me.

04-06-2006, 11:35 PM	#13
240silvia Nissanaholic! Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Wilmington NC Age: 40 Posts: 2,060 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	yes I did put yellow bulbs in the CDL's. PIMP! lol. As far as the housing goes. I'm trying to figure up some way to put plexi in front of it. Only problem is, I don't know where I'm going to attach it. The light can't go back any farther because it will hit the frame/rad support. I'm going to just sit and stare at it tomorrow and see if I can find a way to cover it. I'm pleased with it for now, lighting is good. No one flashed me tonight but i'm still going to aim them down a bit. I have some 200 degree water/air tight HVAC tape that I'm going to put on the outside of the projectors for now. So water won't be able to get into the actual bulb. But, I'm going to hold off on the HID's until I enclose it. Any ideas???????????? All input welcome. You guys don't have to worry about me getting mad with negative comments. I view it as constructive criticism. Thanks guys, Charles

04-07-2006, 12:29 AM	#15
ispypsi Leaky Injector Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: FL Age: 42 Posts: 97 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	i was told by some lighting gurus that the stock s14 projector lenses weren't the best for HID beam patterns, which is why some of them swapped over to bmw/e class/s2000 projector lenses in their s14's. ever heard of something similar? the cutoffs on those dont look that bad other than needing some lowering on the driver's side (re: i agree with it needs to be higher on the passenger side for us roads). id like to see the finished product after some realigning of the beams, as id like to get some HIDs for my s14, but i'd like to see how the beam pattern is gonna be and if i can get away with just the stock projectors, as i dont want to screw up a good set of kouki headlights. of course, anything is better than the stock stuff i have now (plus a broken alignment pole so ill have to get a new set anyways) __________________ 97 240sx ka-t. 12.8 @ 108mph. for sale $8K in Florida. 08 mazdaspeed 3. faster + quieter = sleeper.

04-07-2006, 01:35 AM	#16
240silvia Nissanaholic! Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Wilmington NC Age: 40 Posts: 2,060 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	I'm going to work on the alignment issue tomorrow. I had an S14 with HID's and the light pattern was actually good. No, these projectors aren't the best for HID's. However, I only paid $50 shipped for both of them, compared to the S2000 projectors, which are $500. I think I came out pretty good. Also, how in the hell do you make a convex piece of plexi??? lol. Someone please let me know. Thanks, Charles.

04-07-2006, 01:24 PM	#17
240silvia Nissanaholic! Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Wilmington NC Age: 40 Posts: 2,060 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	Here's a video of the first test run. You can't really see all that well until I get close. You guys know that camera's don't really pick up on lighting like this. Turn the sound up bitches!!!! lol. Anyway, without furthur adue... http://videos.streetfire.net/video/0...2D758D8FD6.htm

04-07-2006, 01:37 PM	#18
SoSideways Post Whore! Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: 你老母 Posts: 4,371 Trader Rating: (4) Feedback Score: 4 reviews	Man I thought it was an in-car footage... There was like 1 second of good sounds too. Fail man

04-07-2006, 04:35 PM	#19
URBootLegDrifterS Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Land of Rising Sun Posts: 7 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I like the sound. The headlights look aite. I might go get some HIDs for my car as well. Could you really see a big difference with those HIDs with your kouki projectors?

04-07-2006, 04:35 PM	#20
darkG20t Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Bremerton, Wa Posts: 23 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I did a similar setup to yours using projectors from a civic housing. I have been running this without a cover for about 6 months now in rainy Washington State. My High beams have no cover at all over the bulb. You'll be OK. I like the blue lighting, I may have to buy some Silverstars.

04-07-2006, 04:53 PM	#21
lumbo007 Zilvia Member Join Date: May 2003 Location: Hawaii Posts: 160 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	are they JDM projectors? if so, can you measure the size so i can look for HID projectors for a retrofit? __________________ Even in darkness, a keen eye can detect light.

04-07-2006, 06:22 PM	#22
240silvia Nissanaholic! Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Wilmington NC Age: 40 Posts: 2,060 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	The passenger side is a JDM projector, and the driver side is the USDM projector. As far as the difference between the two, the actual glass seems to be the same. The only visual difference is the brackets that hold the projectors.

04-08-2006, 12:42 AM	#24
Maeda Nissanaholic! Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Camp Snake Bite, CA RIP Posts: 2,356 Trader Rating: (0) Rides Gallery: Maeda Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Hey, nice thinking on the retro, but get super cheap H4 retro housings to put those projectors in. The CHEAP H4 housings have a clear lense that shouldnt screw with the projector beam pattern much + your shit will be better protected. __________________

04-08-2006, 01:34 AM	#26
CaoBoY Zilvia Addict Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Central Valley Posts: 916 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	design it, and take it to a plastic shop and ask them if they can make you a piece of plastic with x by x dimensions... or buy those cheap headligihts off ebay, with the plastic, and see if you can some how mold that on to the headlights. theres no way you can push the projector back at all? maybe use smaller projectors from s13 silvia headlights? hahah. did you convert the plugs on your stock harness or what? i have an HID kit sitting in my room, and was thinking of just converting the stock headlights to the HELLAH H4 housing kit, and throwing the HID kit in there, re-aim, and have HID bling. :ghey: haha __________________ pulling outta the game: http://www.zilvia.net/f/showthread.p...wpost&t=119867 parting out, just let me know.

04-08-2006, 08:21 AM	#27
Jonnie Fraz Premium Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Cali Age: 56 Posts: 1,371 Trader Rating: (29) Rides Gallery: Jonnie Fraz Feedback Score: 29 reviews	+ 1 for the plastic fab shop. For sealing the back have you looked at the stock S14 seals? You might be able to get them to work. __________________ Stealth-Custom-Fab.com

04-08-2006, 12:05 PM	#29
HyperTek Post Whore! Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Cali Posts: 13,224 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	cool idea, I like your "DIY" approach since many are too scared to attempt. Id do one up on that and get rid of the pop ups if I was gonna go with projectors.. Build some buckets to fit them in, and use some clear lexan plexiglass or something for the lense.. would be trick and not too expensive. __________________ Keep it Classy

04-08-2006, 03:17 PM	#30
240silvia Nissanaholic! Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Wilmington NC Age: 40 Posts: 2,060 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	The only problem with the plexi, is the projectors stick out past the black plastic housing. I guess I could trim it up a bit. How about something like this... Paint skillzzzzz lol.