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yusuke1923 · 04-09-2006, 02:20 AM

Koni Yellows Weak?? Help!!

Hello all, I just installed the "KONI YELLOWS" Struts on my 180SX.
Aren't the these suppose to be REALLY REALLY STIFF?
Somehow they are not... I set them to the maximum STIFF-NESS...
When I drive... the drive is not hard.

So my question is... are the "KONI YELLOWS" really STIFF?
What is it equivalent to?

Help!!

EchoOfSilence · 04-09-2006, 03:29 AM

hopefully you got the right ones

anyway, they theoretically have an infinite adjustability range.
what springs do you have them on? they are just dampers, man. THE BEST, but still dampers.

Did you install the inserts correctly?

SoSideways · 04-09-2006, 09:20 AM

Perhaps you're just experiencing the uber goodness that is the Koni shocks?

I remember reading when guys were complaining about how they don't feel the pot holes or bumps with their Apexi N1 Pro 2001 model, and they thought the whole set was busted, until someone chimed in and said that it's just cause it's damping is so f-ing awesome, that it soaks up bumps and pot holes like jello, and that while cornering at the track, the car still stays flat.

yusuke1923 · 04-09-2006, 11:09 AM

The insterts are intalled properly...
The car does stay flat on corners though.... I mean it doesn't even budge...

EchoOfSilence · 04-09-2006, 02:55 PM

then

are you complaining about? hahahaha.

I want uber-goodness

slideways2004 · 04-09-2006, 04:02 PM

what kind of springs are you using on them? i can't beleive your complainnig about a nice ride even though it handles well

yudalicious · 04-09-2006, 04:17 PM

wth, stiffness != good handling... period
and it depends on the springs

OptionZero · 04-09-2006, 04:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by yudalicious

wth, stiffness != good handling... period
and it depends on the springs

I don't believe stiffness is always more desirable. There are diminishing gains at some point, and you're also limited by the chassis itself.

Besides, what are you talking about? stiff dampers? stiff springs? stiff chassis? stiff bars?

If stiffness were all that matters, then why do shopping carts handle like shit?

sunnys14 · 04-09-2006, 04:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OptionZero

If stiffness were all that matters, then why do shopping carts handle like shit?

they need power steering and bigger tires

SoSideways · 04-09-2006, 05:02 PM

Shopping carts drift awesome.

For grip, load all your shit on the back of the cart, and the car will turn well.

For drift, have your gf stand on the front of the cart's frame (just in front of the front wheels) and you'll drift the cart nicely.

Irukandji · 04-09-2006, 05:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sunnys14

they need power steering and bigger tires

Don't forget the Watanabe rims, cup holder, and tofu sticker

EchoOfSilence · 04-09-2006, 05:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sunnys14

they need power steering and bigger tires

more like they need a setup that allows them some travel so they can actually fucking turn instead of understeer.
anyway, i don't know why we're arguing about shopping carts. hahaha

Spring constants should be chosen based on how much load will be put on them and how much travel you want them to undergo in order to produce desirable effects that lead to the steering characteristics you want.

if you want stiffer shit, get stiffer springs, but don't hate on koni yellows.

Irukandji · 04-09-2006, 05:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EchoOfSilence

more like they need a setup that allows them some travel so they can actually fucking turn instead of understeer.
anyway, i don't know why we're arguing about shopping carts. hahaha

We're not arguing.. we're joking.

To the post starter: did you buy Koni's because you wanted a rough ride?

If yes: you're dumb
If no: then be quiet because the shocks are fine.

EchoOfSilence · 04-09-2006, 05:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by n1sm0r

We're not arguing.. we're joking.

To the post starter: did you buy Koni's because you wanted a rough ride?

If yes: you're dumb
If no: then be quiet because the shocks are fine.

i replied to your post w/o looking at who posted it, so I couldn't tell hahahh

EchoOfSilence · 04-15-2006, 07:09 PM

in any case scenario, you'd want the tallest stiffest lowering springs out there available. too low of a spring and your konis or whatever brand name shocks become useless since you'd lose variable compression and overall shock travel.

04-09-2006, 02:20 AM	#1
yusuke1923 Nissanaholic! Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: 818 to da 626 v(^_^)v Posts: 1,661 Trader Rating: (2) Feedback Score: 2 reviews	Koni Yellows Weak?? Help!! Koni Yellows Weak?? Help!! Hello all, I just installed the "KONI YELLOWS" Struts on my 180SX. Aren't the these suppose to be REALLY REALLY STIFF? Somehow they are not... I set them to the maximum STIFF-NESS... When I drive... the drive is not hard. So my question is... are the "KONI YELLOWS" really STIFF? What is it equivalent to? Help!! __________________

04-09-2006, 03:29 AM	#2
EchoOfSilence Nissanaholic! Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Los Angeles/Berkeley, CA Posts: 2,238 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	hopefully you got the right ones anyway, they theoretically have an infinite adjustability range. what springs do you have them on? they are just dampers, man. THE BEST, but still dampers. Did you install the inserts correctly? __________________ Petition Nissan to Make the IDx on http://IDxClub.co !

04-09-2006, 11:09 AM	#4
yusuke1923 Nissanaholic! Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: 818 to da 626 v(^_^)v Posts: 1,661 Trader Rating: (2) Feedback Score: 2 reviews	The insterts are intalled properly... The car does stay flat on corners though.... I mean it doesn't even budge... __________________

04-09-2006, 02:55 PM	#5
EchoOfSilence Nissanaholic! Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Los Angeles/Berkeley, CA Posts: 2,238 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	then are you complaining about? hahahaha. I want uber-goodness __________________ Petition Nissan to Make the IDx on http://IDxClub.co !

04-15-2006, 07:09 PM	#15
EchoOfSilence Nissanaholic! Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Los Angeles/Berkeley, CA Posts: 2,238 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	in any case scenario, you'd want the tallest stiffest lowering springs out there available. too low of a spring and your konis or whatever brand name shocks become useless since you'd lose variable compression and overall shock travel. __________________ Petition Nissan to Make the IDx on http://IDxClub.co !

04-09-2006, 09:20 AM	#3
SoSideways Post Whore! Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: 你老母 Posts: 4,371 Trader Rating: (4) Feedback Score: 4 reviews	Perhaps you're just experiencing the uber goodness that is the Koni shocks? I remember reading when guys were complaining about how they don't feel the pot holes or bumps with their Apexi N1 Pro 2001 model, and they thought the whole set was busted, until someone chimed in and said that it's just cause it's damping is so f-ing awesome, that it soaks up bumps and pot holes like jello, and that while cornering at the track, the car still stays flat.

04-09-2006, 04:02 PM	#6
slideways2004 Nissanaholic! Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Houston Age: 38 Posts: 1,706 Trader Rating: (6) Feedback Score: 6 reviews	what kind of springs are you using on them? i can't beleive your complainnig about a nice ride even though it handles well

04-09-2006, 04:17 PM	#7
yudalicious Zilvia Addict Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Atlanta Posts: 700 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	wth, stiffness != good handling... period and it depends on the springs

04-09-2006, 05:02 PM	#10
SoSideways Post Whore! Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: 你老母 Posts: 4,371 Trader Rating: (4) Feedback Score: 4 reviews	Shopping carts drift awesome. For grip, load all your shit on the back of the cart, and the car will turn well. For drift, have your gf stand on the front of the cart's frame (just in front of the front wheels) and you'll drift the cart nicely.