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bennieboy · 02-19-2002, 11:02 AM

I want to beef up the engine and or car part... How could I beef it up with not so much cost involved? New cam? New pistons? What? I really want to make it faster but just do not know where to start. How much should I expect to pay for mods? Where could I start looking at mods? i want some people to see that nissan 240 can take other cars!
thanks for ideas

*sykikchimp* · 02-19-2002, 02:17 PM

What do you consider not so much cost??

240meowth · 02-19-2002, 02:25 PM

you see, make yourself an intake <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':)'>  that satisfy's me even till now, 4 month after owning my car...

boosteds14 · 02-19-2002, 02:50 PM

take a loan out pay it off in about 10 yrs and you will be fine, lol

bennieboy · 02-19-2002, 06:37 PM

well i am a college student and money is yeah well you know... i will this sumer have a job that will pay so i was thinking about $1000 at least for now. would a cam be a good investemnt? would it even be in my price range? should i do something before a cam?

DuffMan · 02-19-2002, 07:03 PM

You should probably do intake and exhaust first. Header would be the next logical step.

Or you could focus on handling, it's more fun anyway.

bennieboy · 02-19-2002, 07:43 PM

ok but where can i find mods? what should i look for what should i stay away from? what kind of intake are you talking about? i am new at this stuff so you have to explain everything as far as ideas... what i want is a weekend racer and daily driveri know i will sacreafice one or the other but i want something that will be fast off the line and then when get to about 70 it does not matter too much... i do not know if there is such a thing but that is kinda what i want something that people will wish they had what i have! you know what i mean?

*LanceS13* · 02-19-2002, 08:29 PM

ok...please don't  be insulted by this, but I have to ask:
Do you know how an engine basically works?
Do you know any suspension basics?

*DSC* · 02-19-2002, 08:37 PM

and so he doesn't ACTUALLY have to answer that one way or another <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':)'>

Engine
<a href="http://www.howstuffworks.com/engine.htm" target='_blank'>http://www.howstuffworks.com/engine.htm</a>

suspension
<a href="http://www.ukcar.com/features/tech/suspension.htm" target='_blank'>http://www.ukcar.com/features/tech/suspension.htm</a>

If you already knew all that, great. If not, thats a lot of really good info in there...we have MacPherson Strut suspension btw.

White240sx · 02-19-2002, 09:56 PM

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Quote: from DSC on 8:37 pm on Feb. 19, 2002
...we have MacPherson Strut suspension btw.</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>

Only in the front.

bennieboy · 02-19-2002, 10:34 PM

LanceS13 Yeah I know how an engine works... I took automotive classes which has covered engine, electronics, suspension, and I have taken an auto body class and automotive painting.

*LanceS13* · 02-19-2002, 11:30 PM

ok...just making sure, no offense. <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':)'>

Are you the one that emailed me about the '93 buildup?

bennieboy · 02-20-2002, 06:53 AM

right...the reason why i said tell me everything was like what kind of intake or exhaust  and like how much horse power should i expect and like where can i find them? i was not asking how as such an engine works. but where i can find mods that will last.

alot of people have told me to go and get a S13 Red-top SR20DET  but that is like close to $2400-3000 there are no spec on it how much horse is it? can i get that kind of horse cheaper? where do they get those used engines from?

*LanceS13* · 02-20-2002, 09:30 AM

www.unstable-hybrids.com has the SR engine/tranny/ecu/etc. for $2400...not counting installation.  They have about 205hp and about the same lb.ft. of torque.  There may be other ways to get that number...like a really good naturally aspirated setup--I/H/E, cams, hi-compression pistons, port/polish, custom intake manifold, etc. $$$, but the good thing about the SR, or any other turbo engine, is that they're fairly easily upgradeable.  It may "only" have 205hp when you put it in there, but that's not your limit.
For parts/ideas, check out the "Links" section on this site's first page.  But before anybody can really help, you need to decide if you  want to go turbo or stay n/a.  If you want some serious power, go turbo....just 15, 20 extra hp, go n/a.

bennieboy · 02-20-2002, 09:57 AM

LanceS13 which do you have a N/A or an SR... which root are you going with? which do you think is alittle easyer? i live in IL (USA) and have smog issues would and SR have an american number or would it have a jap number? i just do not want to buy an SR and realize that it is not street legal

*LanceS13* · 02-20-2002, 11:32 AM

Right now all my mods are in suspension except for exhaust...so I'm still n/a.  But I should be going turbo this summer....the hard part is deciding if I want to get the SR, CA, or a built KA+T.
SR20DET's and CA18DET's are Japanese engines.  But like I said in that email, I couldn't tell you about street legality of it in your state.  I live in MS where nobody really cares what's under your hood or coming out of your tailpipe.

*Jeff240sx* · 02-20-2002, 12:03 PM

He did say smog was an issue.  The SR motor is not street legal in any state.  It's only breaking the law if you get caught tho.  The states that check emissions will realize that no car in USA CAME with the SR20DET.  So... not street legal.
Anyway, most turbo cars will burn cleaner than a nonturbo car, but it is the startup that will kill the turbos.
If you go NA, then you have high comp pistons, lots fuel, larger cams, and mega-emmissions.
-Jeff

bennieboy · 02-20-2002, 03:36 PM

yeah but knowing me... i would get caught and halled off to jail or somthing like that...

Chokudori · 02-20-2002, 03:52 PM

Just remember that by the time you've spent enought money on your NA to get about 190hp, you could have gotten a turbo that puts out over 200hp...
Knowing this... I think I might go the NA rout, until they get either a CARB legal SR20 or KA-T out.

02-19-2002, 11:02 AM	#1
bennieboy Leaky Injector Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 87 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I want to beef up the engine and or car part... How could I beef it up with not so much cost involved? New cam? New pistons? What? I really want to make it faster but just do not know where to start. How much should I expect to pay for mods? Where could I start looking at mods? i want some people to see that nissan 240 can take other cars! thanks for ideas

02-19-2002, 02:17 PM	#2
sykikchimp WOW addicted Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: the moon Age: 44 Posts: 6,525 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	What do you consider not so much cost??

02-19-2002, 02:25 PM	#3
240meowth Nissanaholic! Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: torrance, ca Age: 41 Posts: 2,407 Trader Rating: (4) Feedback Score: 4 reviews	you see, make yourself an intake <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':)'>  that satisfy's me even till now, 4 month after owning my car...

02-19-2002, 02:50 PM	#4
boosteds14 Zilvia.net Advertiser Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: CIPmotorsports Age: 43 Posts: 1,612 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	take a loan out pay it off in about 10 yrs and you will be fine, lol

02-19-2002, 06:37 PM	#5
bennieboy Leaky Injector Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 87 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	well i am a college student and money is yeah well you know... i will this sumer have a job that will pay so i was thinking about $1000 at least for now. would a cam be a good investemnt? would it even be in my price range? should i do something before a cam?

02-19-2002, 07:03 PM	#6
DuffMan Post Whore! Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: in a cardboard box Posts: 2,517 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	You should probably do intake and exhaust first. Header would be the next logical step. Or you could focus on handling, it's more fun anyway.

02-19-2002, 07:43 PM	#7
bennieboy Leaky Injector Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 87 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	ok but where can i find mods? what should i look for what should i stay away from? what kind of intake are you talking about? i am new at this stuff so you have to explain everything as far as ideas... what i want is a weekend racer and daily driveri know i will sacreafice one or the other but i want something that will be fast off the line and then when get to about 70 it does not matter too much... i do not know if there is such a thing but that is kinda what i want something that people will wish they had what i have! you know what i mean?

02-19-2002, 08:29 PM	#8
LanceS13 AutoX Junkie Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: MS Age: 43 Posts: 2,044 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	ok...please don't  be insulted by this, but I have to ask: Do you know how an engine basically works? Do you know any suspension basics?

02-19-2002, 08:37 PM	#9
DSC New Title Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: VA Posts: 3,454 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	and so he doesn't ACTUALLY have to answer that one way or another <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':)'> Engine <a href="http://www.howstuffworks.com/engine.htm" target='_blank'>http://www.howstuffworks.com/engine.htm</a> suspension <a href="http://www.ukcar.com/features/tech/suspension.htm" target='_blank'>http://www.ukcar.com/features/tech/suspension.htm</a> If you already knew all that, great. If not, thats a lot of really good info in there...we have MacPherson Strut suspension btw.

02-19-2002, 09:56 PM	#10
White240sx Zilvia Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 219 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Quote: from DSC on 8:37 pm on Feb. 19, 2002 ...we have MacPherson Strut suspension btw.</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'> Only in the front.

02-19-2002, 10:34 PM	#11
bennieboy Leaky Injector Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 87 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	LanceS13 Yeah I know how an engine works... I took automotive classes which has covered engine, electronics, suspension, and I have taken an auto body class and automotive painting.

02-19-2002, 11:30 PM	#12
LanceS13 AutoX Junkie Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: MS Age: 43 Posts: 2,044 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	ok...just making sure, no offense. <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':)'> Are you the one that emailed me about the '93 buildup?

02-20-2002, 06:53 AM	#13
bennieboy Leaky Injector Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 87 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	right...the reason why i said tell me everything was like what kind of intake or exhaust  and like how much horse power should i expect and like where can i find them? i was not asking how as such an engine works. but where i can find mods that will last. alot of people have told me to go and get a S13 Red-top SR20DET  but that is like close to $2400-3000 there are no spec on it how much horse is it? can i get that kind of horse cheaper? where do they get those used engines from?

02-20-2002, 09:30 AM	#14
LanceS13 AutoX Junkie Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: MS Age: 43 Posts: 2,044 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	www.unstable-hybrids.com has the SR engine/tranny/ecu/etc. for $2400...not counting installation.  They have about 205hp and about the same lb.ft. of torque.  There may be other ways to get that number...like a really good naturally aspirated setup--I/H/E, cams, hi-compression pistons, port/polish, custom intake manifold, etc. $$$, but the good thing about the SR, or any other turbo engine, is that they're fairly easily upgradeable.  It may "only" have 205hp when you put it in there, but that's not your limit. For parts/ideas, check out the "Links" section on this site's first page.  But before anybody can really help, you need to decide if you  want to go turbo or stay n/a.  If you want some serious power, go turbo....just 15, 20 extra hp, go n/a.

02-20-2002, 09:57 AM	#15
bennieboy Leaky Injector Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 87 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	LanceS13 which do you have a N/A or an SR... which root are you going with? which do you think is alittle easyer? i live in IL (USA) and have smog issues would and SR have an american number or would it have a jap number? i just do not want to buy an SR and realize that it is not street legal

02-20-2002, 11:32 AM	#16
LanceS13 AutoX Junkie Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: MS Age: 43 Posts: 2,044 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Right now all my mods are in suspension except for exhaust...so I'm still n/a.  But I should be going turbo this summer....the hard part is deciding if I want to get the SR, CA, or a built KA+T. SR20DET's and CA18DET's are Japanese engines.  But like I said in that email, I couldn't tell you about street legality of it in your state.  I live in MS where nobody really cares what's under your hood or coming out of your tailpipe.

02-20-2002, 12:03 PM	#17
Jeff240sx I hate you too... Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Tampa, FL Age: 42 Posts: 5,828 Trader Rating: (0) Rides Gallery: Jeff240sx Feedback Score: 0 reviews	He did say smog was an issue.  The SR motor is not street legal in any state.  It's only breaking the law if you get caught tho.  The states that check emissions will realize that no car in USA CAME with the SR20DET.  So... not street legal. Anyway, most turbo cars will burn cleaner than a nonturbo car, but it is the startup that will kill the turbos. If you go NA, then you have high comp pistons, lots fuel, larger cams, and mega-emmissions. -Jeff

02-20-2002, 03:36 PM	#18
bennieboy Leaky Injector Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 87 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	yeah but knowing me... i would get caught and halled off to jail or somthing like that...

02-20-2002, 03:52 PM	#19
Chokudori Zilvia Member Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Colorado Posts: 249 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Just remember that by the time you've spent enought money on your NA to get about 190hp, you could have gotten a turbo that puts out over 200hp... Knowing this... I think I might go the NA rout, until they get either a CARB legal SR20 or KA-T out.