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fico · 08-08-2006, 12:14 PM

so yeah i bought my car 32 days ago and the person i bought it from is very clever...he also happes to bemy family mechanic ( not mine i preffer to do my own repairs) but he painted the frame the same color as the underside of thecar so when i looked for rust i didnt see any....then last weekend when i swapped in my SR20 i looked closer when the engine was not in the compartment and i saw all the rust (ill get pix up asap) but the frame in the front is rusted through one 1/2 on the drivers side about 7 inches long, so what is there to do about this? i know its hard to give advice with out pictures but just some general things like do i replace that part of frame? or what ill get pix up when i find my camera

DP_Michelle G · 08-08-2006, 12:52 PM

Check To See If Your State Has A Lemon Law. When You Got Your Car From Him Did You Sign Any Papers That Say Sold As Is?

whomiked · 08-08-2006, 01:36 PM

do you have to type in all caps?

fico · 08-08-2006, 02:17 PM

what do you mean in all caps? and i dont know if they do but no i didnt sign anyhting saying that.. i have put to much money into it right now to take it all out and try to find another 240...i got the car for 1500 a

trsilvias13 · 08-08-2006, 02:56 PM

If it is your family mechanic talk to him and see if he wont refund you. If not tell your family not to go there no more. I actually would already done so, if he does these kinds of things to the car he sells, imagine the work he put into your family's car.

DP_Michelle G · 08-08-2006, 03:39 PM

Yes I Did Have To Post In All Caps iwas at work. Atleast You Could Have Helped Out Fico With Some Input On What To Do.

Fico Since He's A Friend Tell Him To Refund You $750 Thats Only Fair Or Help You Fix It.
Good Luck

ledzeppelin240 · 08-08-2006, 03:59 PM

Bummer dude I paid $1000 for a completely rust free, clean title 240sx. I think anything worth doing is worth doing right. You should have looked over the car a little bit more before spending money on it...

If it comes down to it the car is made out of steel and it can always be repiared, so get some quotes for autobody shops or something...

fico · 08-08-2006, 05:33 PM

so do you guys feel that it is repairable?

btw this is what my swap looks like so far.../

kandyflip445 · 08-08-2006, 05:42 PM

Holy rust bucket, Batman!

It can be fixed but how much would probably be the kicker. I remember seeing someone have that part of the frame rail that you could buy and just cut out and replace. I think it was on here that I saw it.

reflexdb · 08-08-2006, 05:50 PM

that is a LOT of rust. It will cost someone a lot to repair that, and unless you just replace that whole section of frame, it will probably never be as strong as it originally was. you should probably stop installing the new motor, and get that rust taken care of. just my 2 cents

fromxtor · 08-08-2006, 06:21 PM

cut it out treat it and box it in.

projectRDM · 08-08-2006, 06:24 PM

It's repairable, but the right way involves more work than you're willing to put in I bet.

I'll take some pics of a car I have on the lot tommorrow, your's is bad but this one is 20x worse. The frame is actually bent from the rust damage.

DJ_Sunrise · 08-08-2006, 06:46 PM

from what ive heard the frame rail is just the back bone of the whole system, and rusting like that wont hurt anything YET. however, u should get that fixed. how? take a grinder and take as much of the section off that has rust. u can either weld in a new piece yourself, or go to a welder. doing the frame rail should be relatively cheap. several hundred dollars at most. however.. can you take bigger/better pictures of the rust in the fenderwell? that shit isnt good/cheap to fix, unless once again.. it is a flat, simple piece to replace. you can however cut that rust out in the well, creat a template using cardboard as best you can, then cut a piece out of sheet metal that u can buy at home depot. get two, multilayer it, weld it together or rivet it and itll be just fine. more pix! then i can give u a better idea. oh yea, and the fuckhead should refund you atleast half the price of the car to cover expenses. poo. i wish i could

on him. that ass. clean engine btw, i like it

-Bart

08-08-2006, 12:14 PM	#1
fico Leaky Injector Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Akron Ohio Age: 37 Posts: 119 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	rust ahoy so yeah i bought my car 32 days ago and the person i bought it from is very clever...he also happes to bemy family mechanic ( not mine i preffer to do my own repairs) but he painted the frame the same color as the underside of thecar so when i looked for rust i didnt see any....then last weekend when i swapped in my SR20 i looked closer when the engine was not in the compartment and i saw all the rust (ill get pix up asap) but the frame in the front is rusted through one 1/2 on the drivers side about 7 inches long, so what is there to do about this? i know its hard to give advice with out pictures but just some general things like do i replace that part of frame? or what ill get pix up when i find my camera

08-08-2006, 03:59 PM	#7
ledzeppelin240 Zilvia Addict Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Sinse Posts: 688 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Bummer dude I paid $1000 for a completely rust free, clean title 240sx. I think anything worth doing is worth doing right. You should have looked over the car a little bit more before spending money on it... If it comes down to it the car is made out of steel and it can always be repiared, so get some quotes for autobody shops or something... __________________ Anyway, no drug, not even alcohol, causes the fundamental ills of society. If we're looking for the source of our troubles, we shouldn't test people for drugs, we should test them for stupidity, ignorance, greed and love of power. Looking for: JDM S13 OEM Sideskirts

08-08-2006, 05:42 PM	#9
kandyflip445 Post Whore! Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Arden, NC Age: 40 Posts: 4,460 Trader Rating: (1) Rides Gallery: kandyflip445 Feedback Score: 1 reviews	Holy rust bucket, Batman! It can be fixed but how much would probably be the kicker. I remember seeing someone have that part of the frame rail that you could buy and just cut out and replace. I think it was on here that I saw it. __________________ My 240 vBgarage

08-08-2006, 06:21 PM	#11
fromxtor Post Whore! Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: NC Age: 44 Posts: 3,012 Trader Rating: (23) Feedback Score: 23 reviews	cut it out treat it and box it in. __________________ Seller feedback>>http://www.zilvia.net/f/showthread.p...light=fromxtor

08-08-2006, 12:52 PM	#2
DP_Michelle G Zilvia Addict Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Anaheim/OC Age: 42 Posts: 666 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Check To See If Your State Has A Lemon Law. When You Got Your Car From Him Did You Sign Any Papers That Say Sold As Is?

08-08-2006, 01:36 PM	#3
whomiked Zilvia Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: San Antonio Age: 37 Posts: 280 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	do you have to type in all caps?

08-08-2006, 02:17 PM	#4
fico Leaky Injector Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Akron Ohio Age: 37 Posts: 119 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	what do you mean in all caps? and i dont know if they do but no i didnt sign anyhting saying that.. i have put to much money into it right now to take it all out and try to find another 240...i got the car for 1500 a

08-08-2006, 02:56 PM	#5
trsilvias13 Nissanaholic! Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 1,995 Trader Rating: (5) Feedback Score: 5 reviews	If it is your family mechanic talk to him and see if he wont refund you. If not tell your family not to go there no more. I actually would already done so, if he does these kinds of things to the car he sells, imagine the work he put into your family's car.

08-08-2006, 03:39 PM	#6
DP_Michelle G Zilvia Addict Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Anaheim/OC Age: 42 Posts: 666 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Yes I Did Have To Post In All Caps iwas at work. Atleast You Could Have Helped Out Fico With Some Input On What To Do. Fico Since He's A Friend Tell Him To Refund You $750 Thats Only Fair Or Help You Fix It. Good Luck

08-08-2006, 05:33 PM	#8
fico Leaky Injector Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Akron Ohio Age: 37 Posts: 119 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	so do you guys feel that it is repairable? btw this is what my swap looks like so far.../

08-08-2006, 05:50 PM	#10
reflexdb Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Denver, CO Age: 40 Posts: 381 Trader Rating: (6) Feedback Score: 6 reviews	that is a LOT of rust. It will cost someone a lot to repair that, and unless you just replace that whole section of frame, it will probably never be as strong as it originally was. you should probably stop installing the new motor, and get that rust taken care of. just my 2 cents

08-08-2006, 06:24 PM	#12
projectRDM Post Whore! Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Atlanta Age: 51 Posts: 13,812 Trader Rating: (12) Feedback Score: 12 reviews	It's repairable, but the right way involves more work than you're willing to put in I bet. I'll take some pics of a car I have on the lot tommorrow, your's is bad but this one is 20x worse. The frame is actually bent from the rust damage.

08-08-2006, 06:46 PM	#13
DJ_Sunrise Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: NJ Age: 38 Posts: 1,134 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	from what ive heard the frame rail is just the back bone of the whole system, and rusting like that wont hurt anything YET. however, u should get that fixed. how? take a grinder and take as much of the section off that has rust. u can either weld in a new piece yourself, or go to a welder. doing the frame rail should be relatively cheap. several hundred dollars at most. however.. can you take bigger/better pictures of the rust in the fenderwell? that shit isnt good/cheap to fix, unless once again.. it is a flat, simple piece to replace. you can however cut that rust out in the well, creat a template using cardboard as best you can, then cut a piece out of sheet metal that u can buy at home depot. get two, multilayer it, weld it together or rivet it and itll be just fine. more pix! then i can give u a better idea. oh yea, and the fuckhead should refund you atleast half the price of the car to cover expenses. poo. i wish i could on him. that ass. clean engine btw, i like it -Bart