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rotation3x · 07-24-2006, 07:05 PM

Hey, I was just wondering if any one had this problem.I just got my 17x9 +17 offset mb weapons with 235/40/17 nitto 450 extreme performance tires on my s14 i have megan racing street coilovers had them full stiff before i put the new wheels on and when i put them on it kinda made the back feel soft and moshie like the back was turning i also have ruca I adjusted them so the rear wheels dont have any camber they look like they are sitting flaton the pavement, the front are like negative 5 maybe i cant remember. any suggestions let me know thanks.

OptionZero · 07-24-2006, 11:33 PM

go back to stock

Irukandji · 07-25-2006, 12:21 AM

you gotta be kidding.

bigger wheel + bigger tire = more grip
more grip = more suspension movement

that might explain your "soft" feeling.

*downshift_sideways* · 07-25-2006, 12:33 AM

I'm on 235's aswell. Feels okay. on stock suspension.

then again my sways are both delete so iono

dct223 · 07-25-2006, 12:44 AM

first off.. dont think you have -5 camber in the front unless you modified something... if you did a do it yourself alignment might be a reason why your car feels like a boat... so go to a alignment shop and get a full alignment

also... megan streets on full stiff, even though they are 8/6, cant even compare to some other coilovers out there on full soft.

gotta240 · 07-25-2006, 12:49 AM

Go get an allignment and check back... i think you'll be happier.

rotation3x · 07-25-2006, 07:10 AM

yea im gonna get a allignment problem is finding someone to do it thanks I thonght it had something to do with that. as far as the tire size i ran on stock they were 245/50/16 so i was thinking putting on bigger wheel with smaller tire would make the suspension seem stiffer. I bet its the alignment and since i was using 300zx tt staggered wheels i had to use a 20mm spacer to clear the coilovers.... main reason for gettting wheels.

EchoOfSilence · 07-25-2006, 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by downshift_sideways

then again my sways are both delete so iono

umm.. wtf guy? hahaha

those MB wheels are pretty heavy...

tre · 07-25-2006, 01:20 PM

i'm curious. how heavy is the wheel/tire combo? :P

mistaanime · 07-25-2006, 03:13 PM

im thinking aglinment..
i've adjusted my rear ruca's before..ended up messin up the settings..

Jason@performance · 07-25-2006, 06:30 PM

new tires = slippery...

break them in!@

turtl631 · 07-25-2006, 11:12 PM

MB Weapons aren't that heavy, the website claims 20.5 lbs but people who actually weighed said they're in the 19 lb range. Not super light, but not nasty heavy for a 17x9. I have a set in the same size with 245/40 Kumho MX and it feels great, nicely weighted steering feel and performs great on the track. Get a real alignment, your "eyeballin' it" alignment sucks balls. And 5* camber in front would be super extreme, you need to read up on alignment specs for these cars.

rotation3x · 07-26-2006, 07:44 AM

my wheels with 235/40/17 nitto 450 weighed 45 lbs hahaha and i dont know what my camber is to tell u the truth b/c my car is at home i just know my front wheels have camber.

rotation3x · 08-08-2006, 08:16 AM

i took off my ruca and that fixed it just ordered some rear torsion bars/traction rods because when i took out the camber on the rear it toed my wheels in causing the boat feeling

dct223 · 08-08-2006, 09:26 AM

like i said... do it yourself alignment does not work very well..

Laser > eye ball

!Zar! · 08-08-2006, 11:40 AM

-5 camber? Wow, that's pointless.

The reason your back feels soft is that your alignment is horribly off.

More than likely you have positive camber in the rear now, and that's what's making your car skittish.

ayuaddict · 08-08-2006, 11:52 AM

dont megans have camber adjustable mounts up front?

yes they do.

Siizzzoooo · 08-08-2006, 11:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dct223

also... megan streets on full stiff, even though they are 8/6, cant even compare to some other coilovers out there on full soft.

I agree 1000%

search for my comparison Megan Racing coilovers Vs Apex'i ExV N1 coilovers

many were lead to believe the were the same...

trsilvias13 · 08-08-2006, 01:14 PM

My alignment by eye is pretty good. It goes straight and feel nice. Tire wear isnt bad. IT wear out evenly too.

I will get a real aligment when I get new tires. Buying used tires and wheels = eye balling alignment cuz I straight dont care.

gun · 08-08-2006, 11:54 PM

miraculously, when my car was stock it needed an alignment; pulled to the right. after i put my coils on, it goes straight for dayssss

07-24-2006, 07:05 PM	#1
rotation3x Zilvia Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: virginia Age: 39 Posts: 272 Trader Rating: (2) Feedback Score: 2 reviews	car feels like boat w/ 17x9 +17 NEW WHEELS Hey, I was just wondering if any one had this problem.I just got my 17x9 +17 offset mb weapons with 235/40/17 nitto 450 extreme performance tires on my s14 i have megan racing street coilovers had them full stiff before i put the new wheels on and when i put them on it kinda made the back feel soft and moshie like the back was turning i also have ruca I adjusted them so the rear wheels dont have any camber they look like they are sitting flaton the pavement, the front are like negative 5 maybe i cant remember. any suggestions let me know thanks.

07-25-2006, 12:33 AM	#4
downshift_sideways No Limit Soldier. Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Hayward CA, San Gabriel CA Age: 38 Posts: 5,550 Trader Rating: (0) Rides Gallery: downshift_sideways Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I'm on 235's aswell. Feels okay. on stock suspension. then again my sways are both delete so iono __________________ allntrlundrgrnd: "you never really appreciate your parents fridge until you look into your own and its full of condiments only"

07-25-2006, 12:44 AM	#5
dct223 Nissanaholic! Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: hella NORCAL! Age: 39 Posts: 1,664 Trader Rating: (4) Feedback Score: 4 reviews	first off.. dont think you have -5 camber in the front unless you modified something... if you did a do it yourself alignment might be a reason why your car feels like a boat... so go to a alignment shop and get a full alignment also... megan streets on full stiff, even though they are 8/6, cant even compare to some other coilovers out there on full soft. __________________ Sfourteen

07-25-2006, 01:20 PM	#9
tre Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 544 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	i'm curious. how heavy is the wheel/tire combo? :P __________________ I didn't buy an Audi because it is a Great Car, but for more of a reason to be an asshole.

07-25-2006, 03:13 PM	#10
mistaanime Nissanaholic! Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Nine -1- Six Posts: 1,934 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	im thinking aglinment.. i've adjusted my rear ruca's before..ended up messin up the settings.. __________________ -Cherry Red 91 Silfourty-

07-24-2006, 11:33 PM	#2
OptionZero Post Whore! Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Norcal Age: 41 Posts: 6,263 Trader Rating: (2) Rides Gallery: OptionZero Feedback Score: 2 reviews	go back to stock

07-25-2006, 12:21 AM	#3
Irukandji Post Whore! Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Compton Posts: 4,268 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	you gotta be kidding. bigger wheel + bigger tire = more grip more grip = more suspension movement that might explain your "soft" feeling.

07-25-2006, 12:49 AM	#6
gotta240 Post Whore! Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: so cal Posts: 3,496 Trader Rating: (21) Feedback Score: 21 reviews	Go get an allignment and check back... i think you'll be happier.

07-25-2006, 07:10 AM	#7
rotation3x Zilvia Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: virginia Age: 39 Posts: 272 Trader Rating: (2) Feedback Score: 2 reviews	yea im gonna get a allignment problem is finding someone to do it thanks I thonght it had something to do with that. as far as the tire size i ran on stock they were 245/50/16 so i was thinking putting on bigger wheel with smaller tire would make the suspension seem stiffer. I bet its the alignment and since i was using 300zx tt staggered wheels i had to use a 20mm spacer to clear the coilovers.... main reason for gettting wheels.

07-25-2006, 06:30 PM	#11
Jason@performance Zilvia.net Advertiser Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 91010 Duarte, CA Posts: 427 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	new tires = slippery... break them in!@

07-25-2006, 11:12 PM	#12
turtl631 Zilvia Addict Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Milwaukee WI Posts: 900 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	MB Weapons aren't that heavy, the website claims 20.5 lbs but people who actually weighed said they're in the 19 lb range. Not super light, but not nasty heavy for a 17x9. I have a set in the same size with 245/40 Kumho MX and it feels great, nicely weighted steering feel and performs great on the track. Get a real alignment, your "eyeballin' it" alignment sucks balls. And 5* camber in front would be super extreme, you need to read up on alignment specs for these cars.

07-26-2006, 07:44 AM	#13
rotation3x Zilvia Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: virginia Age: 39 Posts: 272 Trader Rating: (2) Feedback Score: 2 reviews	my wheels with 235/40/17 nitto 450 weighed 45 lbs hahaha and i dont know what my camber is to tell u the truth b/c my car is at home i just know my front wheels have camber.

08-08-2006, 08:16 AM	#14
rotation3x Zilvia Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: virginia Age: 39 Posts: 272 Trader Rating: (2) Feedback Score: 2 reviews	i took off my ruca and that fixed it just ordered some rear torsion bars/traction rods because when i took out the camber on the rear it toed my wheels in causing the boat feeling

08-08-2006, 09:26 AM	#15
dct223 Nissanaholic! Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: hella NORCAL! Age: 39 Posts: 1,664 Trader Rating: (4) Feedback Score: 4 reviews	like i said... do it yourself alignment does not work very well.. Laser > eye ball __________________ Sfourteen

08-08-2006, 11:40 AM	#16
!Zar! Post Whore! Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: North Korea Posts: 14,579 Trader Rating: (27) Feedback Score: 27 reviews	-5 camber? Wow, that's pointless. The reason your back feels soft is that your alignment is horribly off. More than likely you have positive camber in the rear now, and that's what's making your car skittish. __________________

08-08-2006, 11:52 AM	#17
ayuaddict Post Whore! Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Socal Age: 36 Posts: 4,017 Trader Rating: (9) Feedback Score: 9 reviews	dont megans have camber adjustable mounts up front? yes they do.

08-08-2006, 01:14 PM	#19
trsilvias13 Nissanaholic! Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 1,995 Trader Rating: (5) Feedback Score: 5 reviews	My alignment by eye is pretty good. It goes straight and feel nice. Tire wear isnt bad. IT wear out evenly too. I will get a real aligment when I get new tires. Buying used tires and wheels = eye balling alignment cuz I straight dont care.

08-08-2006, 11:54 PM	#20
gun Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Folsom Prison Posts: 437 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	miraculously, when my car was stock it needed an alignment; pulled to the right. after i put my coils on, it goes straight for dayssss __________________