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whooty · 03-10-2012, 11:39 PM

Hello everyone, i'm new here. I made this thread because I found someone looking to trade their 240sx. I'm wondering if you can help me with some questions and if you think it's a good deal.

I'd be trading my 1999 323i BMW with a few goodies such as coilovers, aftermarket bumpers and some inexpensive wheels.

My car has.....

5 speed manual
about 180,000 miles on the car but only like 90,000 on the engine

The 240sx has, supposedly....

5 speed manual
right hand drive conversion
s13 front end
bad tranny (but he has a good one to give me as well)
103,000 miles

QUESTIONS!

1. I thought the s13 front ends had folding lights?
2. If that is a 1989 could the front end be changed to be a kouki front end?
3. What would it take to do that?

That's all for now I guess

whooty · 03-10-2012, 11:40 PM

Sorry for the massive pictures!

hardparkd · 03-11-2012, 12:00 AM

nice bmw!
and pics of the s13 wouldnt open for me.

Quote:

Originally Posted by whooty

QUESTIONS!

1. I thought the s13 front ends had folding lights?
2. If that is a 1989 could the front end be changed to be a kouki front end?
3. What would it take to do that?

That's all for now I guess

i.)usdm 240sx's has flipup headlights
jdm silvias have non flip ups

ii, iii.) Conversions: What do I need?
its about half way down.

whooty · 03-11-2012, 12:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hardparkd

nice bmw!
and pics of the s13 wouldnt open for me.

i.)usdm 240sx's has flipup headlights
jdm silvias have non flip ups

ii, iii.) Conversions: What do I need?
its about half way down.

thanks for the compliment and thank you for the help!

idk why the pictures of his 240sx aren't working but this is what his front looks like.

So I see that it is possible to make the front end look like a s14 kouki?

I guess the owner wanted to go very JDM with the right hand conversion and the front end Silvia conversion?

*ManoNegra* · 03-11-2012, 08:42 AM

Keep your bmw, you'd be trading down
But if you insist; if you want an s14 front get an s14
Very few conversions are ever done right

**Phlip** · 03-11-2012, 09:33 AM

It'd be among the silliest things I have heard of if you traded your BMW for an S13 with bad transmission, even if you got a potato sack of cash on top

whooty · 03-11-2012, 11:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ManoNegra

Keep your bmw, you'd be trading down
But if you insist; if you want an s14 front get an s14
Very few conversions are ever done right

I know i'd be trading down but I really like how 240sx's look and I want something a lot cheaper to maintain.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phlip

It'd be among the silliest things I have heard of if you traded your BMW for an S13 with bad transmission, even if you got a potato sack of cash on top

How much are new transmission's for these cars?

Thanks guys

KiLLeR2001 · 03-11-2012, 11:44 AM

Damn I despise BMW's with a passion but if you wanted a more fair trade I'd look for an actual RHD S13 Silvia. But why expose yourself to the attention of RHD (especially in CA)???

whooty · 03-11-2012, 11:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KiLLeR2001

Damn I despise BMW's with a passion but if you wanted a more fair trade I'd look for an actual RHD S13 Silvia. But why expose yourself to the attention of RHD (especially in CA)???

Would you mind educating me about RHD? Is it illegal? I thought that on older year cars it wasn't illegal? I don't know though.

*ManoNegra* · 03-11-2012, 11:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by whooty

I know i'd be trading down but I really like how 240sx's look and I want something a lot cheaper to maintain.

Keep your car, save a few grand and take your time
Finding a clean coupe to make a project of
Daily + project = combo breaker

whooty · 03-11-2012, 12:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ManoNegra

Keep your car, save a few grand and take your time
Finding a clean coupe to make a project of
Daily + project = combo breaker

You think I could find one for a couple grand? A s14 coupe?

jesse_s13 · 03-11-2012, 12:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by whooty

You think I could find one for a couple grand? A s14 coupe?

Keep your bmw its nice looking and runs!

Yes you can find deals on s14's but it takes weeks of searching. But they are out there.

whooty · 03-11-2012, 12:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jesse_s13

Keep your bmw its nice looking and runs!

Yes you can find deals on s14's but it takes weeks of searching. But they are out there.

Thank you! And ok that sounds like a good idea. I'll try to do that. I'm just impatient haha. And i'll want to mod my bmw more if I have it lol...... dammit.

Ok, thanks for the help guy's i'll try to just save up for one as a project

jesse_s13 · 03-11-2012, 01:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by whooty

Thank you! And ok that sounds like a good idea. I'll try to do that. I'm just impatient haha. And i'll want to mod my bmw more if I have it lol...... dammit.

Ok, thanks for the help guy's i'll try to just save up for one as a project

Personally I would keep the bmw as a daily. But thats if you can afford 2 cars. Because the s14 WILL become a money pit.

whooty · 03-11-2012, 01:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jesse_s13

Personally I would keep the bmw as a daily. But thats if you can afford 2 cars. Because the s14 WILL become a money pit.

Yea i'll keep it and save up for a S14 as a project car. Thanks for changing my mind haha

KiLLeR2001 · 03-11-2012, 01:48 PM

Actually I would sell it and buy something not BMW and then save up for a project S14.

Metal Angel · 03-11-2012, 04:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KiLLeR2001

Actually I would sell it and buy something not BMW and then save up for a project S14.

This. Sell your BMW and grab a Honda accord and an S14 with the sale cash.

Jus Skott · 03-12-2012, 02:20 PM

trading you bimmer for someones project car, has nothing but bad news written all over it. good luck in you adventures.

hardparkd · 03-12-2012, 03:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jus Skott

trading you bimmer for someones project car, has nothing but bad news written all over it. good luck in you adventures.

this!
my opinion.
either keep the BMW.
or sell the BMW and use the money to find a clean, stock, unmolested s13 or s14 and built it up yourself, that way you know what exactly has been done to the car and know how shabby/properly it has been done.
just my opinion.

*ManoNegra* · 03-12-2012, 03:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by whooty

You think I could find one for a couple grand? A s14 coupe?

s14? no
I was going by the picture of the coupe you posted

an s14 can be had for for cheap (3k - 4k) but it'll be in poor condition most likely
unless you stumble upon a crazy good deal (rarely happens but it does)
a nice one will cost you several grand more

good luck

ps. listen to what everyone is telling you and keep your car.

OBEEWON · 03-12-2012, 03:44 PM

This would be...

...the dumbest trade ever. Please do not.

KravingAKouki · 03-12-2012, 03:51 PM

i think he is confusing himself with a s13 sil-coupe. Thats what he is saying is a s14 i think from what I understood. My personal suggestion would be keep the bmw and read about a 240, common problems, etc. before purchase.

ultramagnus · 03-12-2012, 03:57 PM

Never trade a reliable running car for a car that's half ass complete. I have a project car and a dd which is my s13. yeah i buy parts for both cars but the S13 has to run everyday until my project car is running then i can rest the dd for a few months so i can replace all the parts i bought for it. it becomes hassle if you have no cars.

the suggestion to sell your bmw to get a decent dd and have some $$ for your project car isn't a bad idea. Just make sure that the DD is always ready to go. cause that car will become your parts chaser as well. Good Luck on your journey.

ArcherV20 · 03-12-2012, 04:00 PM

Are you unhappy with your Current BMW? It's not worth the trade IMO - not even if you're going to be taking cash in hand. Like many others have said - if you want an S Chassis at all, make it a project!

Jus Skott · 03-12-2012, 08:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hardparkd

this!
my opinion.
either keep the BMW.
or sell the BMW and use the money to find a clean, stock, unmolested s13 or s14 and built it up yourself, that way you know what exactly has been done to the car and know how shabby/properly it has been done.
just my opinion.

Exactly, When I found my s13 I was lucky, only mods it had was some beener neons in the car, that caused an electrical drain, pulled that shit out and no more problem. The clutch was slipping and took a year of sliding beating on it until it finally said FFFFFFFFFFFFFFuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu! Still wasn't a bad purchase for 600.00 with 90k on the clock.

Even now If I was to sell my prized to me POS, I would have to give someone a manual with it, so they know what yeah make and model, so they could buy regular maintenance parts.

Then there's the aspect of when your modding your 240. You might as well call it a boat. (bust out another thousand.) simply because things don't always come as cheap as you want them to be. Hell if you get biten by that drifting bug that every 14 year old is dreaming about. your car turns into a GTO. (Gas, tires, Oil) all the things that you will be changing more often than you might think.

Boost_Fiend · 03-12-2012, 09:07 PM

Keep the BMW it looks good. Save up some cash and buy a shell perhaps. But if you insist on trading, don't trade for some POS s13, aim for a clean s14 at least.

Jus Skott · 03-12-2012, 09:12 PM

^ or be JDM fresh and get an S15 lol.

whooty · 03-12-2012, 10:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ArcherV20

Are you unhappy with your Current BMW? It's not worth the trade IMO - not even if you're going to be taking cash in hand. Like many others have said - if you want an S Chassis at all, make it a project!

I'll just quote this one since you all pretty much agree with each other.

I love my BMW but...... it is so expensive to fix and mod at the same time. I would love to have a less expensive car to mod and maintain.

I didn't tell you guy's the full story either so it should make more sense to you now on why the trade sounded good.

First I have a substantial amount of problems that are wrong with the BMW right now. He was willing to trade the car and put cash on top even with the problems.

Here is the scenario. Me and my best friend want to get a project car together to build up for the future. Doesn't matter how long it takes to complete. Just want a car that we can learn on and in the end have a clean souped up ride to take on some road trips.

He wants to do a muscle car but i'm going to try to talk him into a 240sx and if he agrees then i'll keep my BMW and we'll get the 240sx together.

If he doesn't want to do the project on a 240sx then i'm considering trying to find a S14 coupe to trade my BMW for and then get an old muscle car to use as a project. I don't mind doing the project on a muscle car, it would be sick, I would just rather do it on a 240sx.

I'm pretty tired so I hope that all made sense.....

Jus Skott · 03-13-2012, 09:45 AM

So you want to get rid of the bimmer cause of cost in fixing and modding it and then turn around and dump endless amounts of cash in modding a 240. Makes sense.

whooty · 03-13-2012, 11:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jus Skott

So you want to get rid of the bimmer cause of cost in fixing and modding it and then turn around and dump endless amounts of cash in modding a 240. Makes sense.

As long as the maintenance is cheap then yes. I love spending money on mods. I don't love spending money on maintenance. Pretty sure everyone feels this way. So yes I want a car that is less expensive to maintain so that I can mod it more...... Makes sense

03-10-2012, 11:39 PM	#1
whooty Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Sacramento CA Posts: 19 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Please Help Me Hello everyone, i'm new here. I made this thread because I found someone looking to trade their 240sx. I'm wondering if you can help me with some questions and if you think it's a good deal. I'd be trading my 1999 323i BMW with a few goodies such as coilovers, aftermarket bumpers and some inexpensive wheels. My car has..... 5 speed manual about 180,000 miles on the car but only like 90,000 on the engine The 240sx has, supposedly.... 5 speed manual right hand drive conversion s13 front end bad tranny (but he has a good one to give me as well) 103,000 miles QUESTIONS! 1. I thought the s13 front ends had folding lights? 2. If that is a 1989 could the front end be changed to be a kouki front end? 3. What would it take to do that? That's all for now I guess

03-11-2012, 09:33 AM	#6
Phlip Yes, I look like that Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: In my supervillain's lair Posts: 27,980 Trader Rating: (19) Rides Gallery: Phlip Feedback Score: 19 reviews	It'd be among the silliest things I have heard of if you traded your BMW for an S13 with bad transmission, even if you got a potato sack of cash on top __________________ Weirdo And I write too!

03-11-2012, 11:44 AM	#8
KiLLeR2001 Post Whore! Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: オーランドフロリダ Posts: 7,955 Trader Rating: (46) Feedback Score: 46 reviews	Damn I despise BMW's with a passion but if you wanted a more fair trade I'd look for an actual RHD S13 Silvia. But why expose yourself to the attention of RHD (especially in CA)??? __________________

03-11-2012, 01:48 PM	#16
KiLLeR2001 Post Whore! Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: オーランドフロリダ Posts: 7,955 Trader Rating: (46) Feedback Score: 46 reviews	Actually I would sell it and buy something not BMW and then save up for a project S14. __________________

03-12-2012, 02:20 PM	#18
Jus Skott Zilvia Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Morrisville Pa. Posts: 172 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	trading you bimmer for someones project car, has nothing but bad news written all over it. good luck in you adventures. __________________ Looking for yard parts, PM me.

03-10-2012, 11:40 PM	#2
whooty Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Sacramento CA Posts: 19 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Sorry for the massive pictures!

03-11-2012, 08:42 AM	#5
ManoNegra Guild of Skullduggerous Intent Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Socal Posts: 7,841 Trader Rating: (48) Feedback Score: 48 reviews	Keep your bmw, you'd be trading down But if you insist; if you want an s14 front get an s14 Very few conversions are ever done right

03-12-2012, 03:44 PM	#21
OBEEWON Post Whore! Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Hightened State of Emergency Posts: 6,053 Trader Rating: (9) Feedback Score: 9 reviews	This would be... ...the dumbest trade ever. Please do not. __________________

03-12-2012, 03:51 PM	#22
KravingAKouki Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Not FAILorida Posts: 431 Trader Rating: (2) Feedback Score: 2 reviews	i think he is confusing himself with a s13 sil-coupe. Thats what he is saying is a s14 i think from what I understood. My personal suggestion would be keep the bmw and read about a 240, common problems, etc. before purchase.

03-12-2012, 03:57 PM	#23
ultramagnus Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Honey Combhideout So.Cal Posts: 501 Trader Rating: (41) Feedback Score: 41 reviews	Never trade a reliable running car for a car that's half ass complete. I have a project car and a dd which is my s13. yeah i buy parts for both cars but the S13 has to run everyday until my project car is running then i can rest the dd for a few months so i can replace all the parts i bought for it. it becomes hassle if you have no cars. the suggestion to sell your bmw to get a decent dd and have some $$ for your project car isn't a bad idea. Just make sure that the DD is always ready to go. cause that car will become your parts chaser as well. Good Luck on your journey. __________________ "Consistency is Victory"

03-12-2012, 04:00 PM	#24
ArcherV20 Leaky Injector Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Canada Age: 43 Posts: 64 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	Are you unhappy with your Current BMW? It's not worth the trade IMO - not even if you're going to be taking cash in hand. Like many others have said - if you want an S Chassis at all, make it a project!

03-12-2012, 09:07 PM	#26
Boost_Fiend Zilvia Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Ft. Lauderdale, FL Posts: 199 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Keep the BMW it looks good. Save up some cash and buy a shell perhaps. But if you insist on trading, don't trade for some POS s13, aim for a clean s14 at least.

03-12-2012, 09:12 PM	#27
Jus Skott Zilvia Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Morrisville Pa. Posts: 172 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	^ or be JDM fresh and get an S15 lol. __________________ Looking for yard parts, PM me.

03-13-2012, 09:45 AM	#29
Jus Skott Zilvia Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Morrisville Pa. Posts: 172 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	So you want to get rid of the bimmer cause of cost in fixing and modding it and then turn around and dump endless amounts of cash in modding a 240. Makes sense. __________________ Looking for yard parts, PM me.