Zilvia.net Forums | Nissan 240SX (Silvia) and Z (Fairlady) Car Forum

Go Back   Zilvia.net Forums | Nissan 240SX (Silvia) and Z (Fairlady) Car Forum > General > Tech Talk

Tech Talk Technical Discussion About The Nissan 240SX and Nissan Z Cars


Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 02-07-2007, 08:46 PM   #1
issac
Leaky Injector
 
issac's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: california
Age: 45
Posts: 131
Trader Rating: (1)
issac is just really niceissac is just really niceissac is just really niceissac is just really niceissac is just really niceissac is just really niceissac is just really niceissac is just really nice
Feedback Score: 1 reviews
s13 stretched look?

I just purchased 16x8 0 offset sportmax 002's. Will 215/50's give me the stretched look?
issac is offline   Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
Old 02-07-2007, 09:02 PM   #2
5t341tH
Post Whore!
 
5t341tH's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: socal (Huntington Beach)
Age: 36
Posts: 2,787
Trader Rating: (14)
5t341tH has a reputation beyond repute5t341tH has a reputation beyond repute5t341tH has a reputation beyond repute5t341tH has a reputation beyond repute5t341tH has a reputation beyond repute5t341tH has a reputation beyond repute5t341tH has a reputation beyond repute5t341tH has a reputation beyond repute5t341tH has a reputation beyond repute5t341tH has a reputation beyond repute5t341tH has a reputation beyond repute
Feedback Score: 14 reviews
Send a message via AIM to 5t341tH
i dont think so. i have 15x7 with 205 and its not. try 225 or more
__________________

lexus baby
5t341tH is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-07-2007, 09:05 PM   #3
FaLKoN240
Super Moderator
 
FaLKoN240's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: SoCal Temecula
Posts: 16,893
Trader Rating: (73)
FaLKoN240 is close to perfectionFaLKoN240 is close to perfectionFaLKoN240 is close to perfectionFaLKoN240 is close to perfectionFaLKoN240 is close to perfectionFaLKoN240 is close to perfectionFaLKoN240 is close to perfectionFaLKoN240 is close to perfectionFaLKoN240 is close to perfectionFaLKoN240 is close to perfectionFaLKoN240 is close to perfection
Feedback Score: 73 reviews
205/50/16.

Why do you want stretch?

You should stretch to MAKE your wheels fit, if you don't have issues making them fit, it's just gonna make you look poor.
__________________

Best way to do business with me? Make your best offer FIRST.
FaLKoN240 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-07-2007, 09:06 PM   #4
clutch kick drifter
Zilvia Junkie
 
clutch kick drifter's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: TN
Posts: 498
Trader Rating: (0)
clutch kick drifter has a spectacular aura aboutclutch kick drifter has a spectacular aura aboutclutch kick drifter has a spectacular aura aboutclutch kick drifter has a spectacular aura aboutclutch kick drifter has a spectacular aura aboutclutch kick drifter has a spectacular aura about
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
go like 195 and you may get a stretched look. I run 18x9 and a 225 40 and its pretty stretched but its a whole nother ball game once you get in 17s and 18s + so yeah. Try and run the smallest side wall you can, thus a more streteched look.
clutch kick drifter is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-07-2007, 09:06 PM   #5
issac
Leaky Injector
 
issac's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: california
Age: 45
Posts: 131
Trader Rating: (1)
issac is just really niceissac is just really niceissac is just really niceissac is just really niceissac is just really niceissac is just really niceissac is just really niceissac is just really nice
Feedback Score: 1 reviews
thank you for the feedback. where can I see pics of your car stealth?
issac is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-07-2007, 09:07 PM   #6
Full-Lock
Nissanaholic!
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: ILLinois
Posts: 1,765
Trader Rating: (0)
Full-Lock is close to perfectionFull-Lock is close to perfectionFull-Lock is close to perfectionFull-Lock is close to perfectionFull-Lock is close to perfectionFull-Lock is close to perfectionFull-Lock is close to perfectionFull-Lock is close to perfectionFull-Lock is close to perfectionFull-Lock is close to perfectionFull-Lock is close to perfection
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Send a message via AIM to Full-Lock
it kind of depends on what tire also. some tires stretch is different than others. and +1 to what Falkon said
__________________
Full-Lock is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-07-2007, 09:07 PM   #7
clutch kick drifter
Zilvia Junkie
 
clutch kick drifter's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: TN
Posts: 498
Trader Rating: (0)
clutch kick drifter has a spectacular aura aboutclutch kick drifter has a spectacular aura aboutclutch kick drifter has a spectacular aura aboutclutch kick drifter has a spectacular aura aboutclutch kick drifter has a spectacular aura aboutclutch kick drifter has a spectacular aura about
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Quote:
Originally Posted by 5t341tH
i dont think so. i have 15x7 with 205 and its not. try 225 or more
Why would you get a bigger tire to give it a stretched look?
clutch kick drifter is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-07-2007, 09:08 PM   #8
cdlong
Nissanaholic!
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Colorado Springs
Age: 44
Posts: 1,865
Trader Rating: (0)
cdlong has a brilliant futurecdlong has a brilliant futurecdlong has a brilliant futurecdlong has a brilliant futurecdlong has a brilliant futurecdlong has a brilliant futurecdlong has a brilliant futurecdlong has a brilliant futurecdlong has a brilliant futurecdlong has a brilliant futurecdlong has a brilliant future
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Send a message via AIM to cdlong
5t, i'm not sure you know what stretched means. he want the tires to be tighter, not more square.

i have 16x8s with 225/50 on it and they are slightly less than square. anything less will be stretched, how much is your call. you can probably fit a 205 (though i don't know why you'd want to) so either would work, just decide on how much stretch you want.
cdlong is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-07-2007, 09:08 PM   #9
TheTimanator
Post Whore!
 
TheTimanator's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: Nashville
Age: 41
Posts: 2,535
Trader Rating: (1)
TheTimanator has a reputation beyond reputeTheTimanator has a reputation beyond reputeTheTimanator has a reputation beyond reputeTheTimanator has a reputation beyond reputeTheTimanator has a reputation beyond reputeTheTimanator has a reputation beyond reputeTheTimanator has a reputation beyond reputeTheTimanator has a reputation beyond reputeTheTimanator has a reputation beyond reputeTheTimanator has a reputation beyond reputeTheTimanator has a reputation beyond repute
Feedback Score: 1 reviews
strecthing for the look is retarded....however if your putting these wheels on a stock body S13 then go with 205/50/16 suggested above. It's not going to be much of a strecth but if you really wanted the "look" just find some 195's
__________________
89 S13 hatch/////98 Subaru 2.5RS
TheTimanator is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-07-2007, 09:10 PM   #10
issac
Leaky Injector
 
issac's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: california
Age: 45
Posts: 131
Trader Rating: (1)
issac is just really niceissac is just really niceissac is just really niceissac is just really niceissac is just really niceissac is just really niceissac is just really niceissac is just really nice
Feedback Score: 1 reviews
well I am planning on dumping my car pretty low and a buddy of mines car rubs a little during turns with his 16's. I have stance gr+pros on the way and dont want any rubbing issues.
issac is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-07-2007, 09:11 PM   #11
clutch kick drifter
Zilvia Junkie
 
clutch kick drifter's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: TN
Posts: 498
Trader Rating: (0)
clutch kick drifter has a spectacular aura aboutclutch kick drifter has a spectacular aura aboutclutch kick drifter has a spectacular aura aboutclutch kick drifter has a spectacular aura aboutclutch kick drifter has a spectacular aura aboutclutch kick drifter has a spectacular aura about
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Quote:
Originally Posted by TheTimanator
strecthing for the look is retarded....however if your putting these wheels on a stock body S13 then go with 205/50/16 suggested above. It's goning to be much of a strecth but if you really wanted the "look" just find some 195's
i vote 195's ftw! Stretching is only cool for the look DUH! HAHAHA stretching to fit FTW
clutch kick drifter is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-07-2007, 09:17 PM   #12
staygold24
Zilvia Addict
 
staygold24's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: St. Simons Ga
Posts: 673
Trader Rating: (0)
staygold24 will become famous soon enoughstaygold24 will become famous soon enoughstaygold24 will become famous soon enoughstaygold24 will become famous soon enough
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
I know this is offtopic but this is cause Im poor and have extra tires laying around.

Could a 205 40 go on an 17x 8.5?
staygold24 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-07-2007, 09:22 PM   #13
TheTimanator
Post Whore!
 
TheTimanator's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: Nashville
Age: 41
Posts: 2,535
Trader Rating: (1)
TheTimanator has a reputation beyond reputeTheTimanator has a reputation beyond reputeTheTimanator has a reputation beyond reputeTheTimanator has a reputation beyond reputeTheTimanator has a reputation beyond reputeTheTimanator has a reputation beyond reputeTheTimanator has a reputation beyond reputeTheTimanator has a reputation beyond reputeTheTimanator has a reputation beyond reputeTheTimanator has a reputation beyond reputeTheTimanator has a reputation beyond repute
Feedback Score: 1 reviews
Quote:
Originally Posted by staygold24
I know this is offtopic but this is cause Im poor and have extra tires laying around.

Could a 205 40 go on an 17x 8.5?
sure, people have put 205's on 9" wide wheels. Good luck finding someone to do it.

Streching tires to fit is
__________________
89 S13 hatch/////98 Subaru 2.5RS
TheTimanator is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-07-2007, 11:02 PM   #14
DriftSpecial180
Zilvia Addict
 
DriftSpecial180's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: OC, CA
Posts: 664
Trader Rating: (0)
DriftSpecial180 has a spectacular aura aboutDriftSpecial180 has a spectacular aura aboutDriftSpecial180 has a spectacular aura aboutDriftSpecial180 has a spectacular aura aboutDriftSpecial180 has a spectacular aura aboutDriftSpecial180 has a spectacular aura about
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
I have 16x8 +0 work ewing meshes. If you're going to slam it on 205's it won't fit... front might with camber, but i had 205's in the back with 3 degrees and it didn't fit. I threw $150 away cause of that. However, pull those rear fenders and a 205 will fit. I'd say, go with 195/50's and you'll be good. I can try to get pics tomorrow for you.
DriftSpecial180 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-07-2007, 11:16 PM   #15
!Zar!
Post Whore!
 
!Zar!'s Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: North Korea
Posts: 14,579
Trader Rating: (27)
!Zar! is close to perfection!Zar! is close to perfection!Zar! is close to perfection!Zar! is close to perfection!Zar! is close to perfection!Zar! is close to perfection!Zar! is close to perfection!Zar! is close to perfection!Zar! is close to perfection!Zar! is close to perfection!Zar! is close to perfection
Feedback Score: 27 reviews
Why the hell would you want to stretch that?

That's useless. As said by 240FaLKoN. It's done for fitment not looks. And trust me you will have NO problems with fitment. Just toss some tires on there and come back when you have money to purchace wheels worth having a stretch for.
__________________
!Zar! is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-08-2007, 12:22 AM   #16
DriftSpecial180
Zilvia Addict
 
DriftSpecial180's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: OC, CA
Posts: 664
Trader Rating: (0)
DriftSpecial180 has a spectacular aura aboutDriftSpecial180 has a spectacular aura aboutDriftSpecial180 has a spectacular aura aboutDriftSpecial180 has a spectacular aura aboutDriftSpecial180 has a spectacular aura aboutDriftSpecial180 has a spectacular aura about
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
I would like to run bigger tires, but like you stated, its for fitment. I bought a set of 205's for the rear and threw them on. First i couldn't get down the driveway because when the tire went up in the wheel well it was stuck on the fender acting like a brake, that took a few guys and a mad burnout to get it to a place to work on it. So i lifted it up a little and drove around....this time i just shredded the top of the sidewall. So went back the next day and got some 195's put on the back, yay success!

Now just saving some money for parts and gonna get a fender roller that way i can get something a little wider
DriftSpecial180 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-08-2007, 12:29 AM   #17
The Hamsterball
Zilvia Member
 
The Hamsterball's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: CA
Age: 39
Posts: 290
Trader Rating: (0)
The Hamsterball is making a name for him/her selfThe Hamsterball is making a name for him/her self
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
It's a 240SX not an AE86.
That's why you don't buy 0 offset 8'' wheels =P

You shoulda went for the Sportmax 501 wheels that are +15mm.

Those are the ones I want to get so i can fit maximum 245's y0.
Actually I'm on a stock KA, so 245's are pointless, I'll go for 225's instead when the time arises.

Good luck with the stretch. Just so you know, your tires will not last as long with stretched fitment.
__________________
White '90 S13 Fastback (SOLD in '07)
The Hamsterball is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-08-2007, 12:30 AM   #18
redsuns3838
Zilvia Addict
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: dog town
Posts: 969
Trader Rating: (0)
redsuns3838 is a jewel in the roughredsuns3838 is a jewel in the roughredsuns3838 is a jewel in the roughredsuns3838 is a jewel in the roughredsuns3838 is a jewel in the roughredsuns3838 is a jewel in the roughredsuns3838 is a jewel in the roughredsuns3838 is a jewel in the rough
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Send a message via AIM to redsuns3838
if your in southern cali, and you want to get a tire stretched on a new wheel, I highly reccomend The Wheel Supply in diamond bar area. They work with many high end cars and showcars with very expensive wheels. They wont scratch your wheels to hell, or refuse to stretch it as long as its within reason. Very cool people too.


GL with the fitament.
redsuns3838 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-08-2007, 12:36 AM   #19
FaLKoN240
Super Moderator
 
FaLKoN240's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: SoCal Temecula
Posts: 16,893
Trader Rating: (73)
FaLKoN240 is close to perfectionFaLKoN240 is close to perfectionFaLKoN240 is close to perfectionFaLKoN240 is close to perfectionFaLKoN240 is close to perfectionFaLKoN240 is close to perfectionFaLKoN240 is close to perfectionFaLKoN240 is close to perfectionFaLKoN240 is close to perfectionFaLKoN240 is close to perfectionFaLKoN240 is close to perfection
Feedback Score: 73 reviews
Sounds like you need to roll your fenders, if you're rubbing on a 8" wide with a 205.
__________________

Best way to do business with me? Make your best offer FIRST.
FaLKoN240 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-08-2007, 12:37 AM   #20
HyperTek
Post Whore!
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Cali
Posts: 13,224
Trader Rating: (3)
HyperTek is close to perfectionHyperTek is close to perfectionHyperTek is close to perfectionHyperTek is close to perfectionHyperTek is close to perfectionHyperTek is close to perfectionHyperTek is close to perfectionHyperTek is close to perfectionHyperTek is close to perfectionHyperTek is close to perfectionHyperTek is close to perfection
Feedback Score: 3 reviews
ask viceroy, they should know how to make ur car look cool..
__________________
Keep it Classy
HyperTek is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-08-2007, 12:45 AM   #21
McRussellPants
Nissanaholic!
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Austin, Tx
Posts: 2,168
Trader Rating: (0)
McRussellPants has a reputation beyond reputeMcRussellPants has a reputation beyond reputeMcRussellPants has a reputation beyond reputeMcRussellPants has a reputation beyond reputeMcRussellPants has a reputation beyond reputeMcRussellPants has a reputation beyond reputeMcRussellPants has a reputation beyond reputeMcRussellPants has a reputation beyond reputeMcRussellPants has a reputation beyond reputeMcRussellPants has a reputation beyond reputeMcRussellPants has a reputation beyond repute
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
even Viceroy aint got no magic they can work to make 15s look cool.

16x8 -15 Demon cambers is smallest wheel on the map.
McRussellPants is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-08-2007, 01:14 AM   #22
FaLKoN240
Super Moderator
 
FaLKoN240's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: SoCal Temecula
Posts: 16,893
Trader Rating: (73)
FaLKoN240 is close to perfectionFaLKoN240 is close to perfectionFaLKoN240 is close to perfectionFaLKoN240 is close to perfectionFaLKoN240 is close to perfectionFaLKoN240 is close to perfectionFaLKoN240 is close to perfectionFaLKoN240 is close to perfectionFaLKoN240 is close to perfectionFaLKoN240 is close to perfectionFaLKoN240 is close to perfection
Feedback Score: 73 reviews
Quote:
Originally Posted by McRussellPants
even Viceroy aint got no magic they can work to make 15s look cool.

16x8 -15 Demon cambers is smallest wheel on the map.
Word.





Tire size is 205/55/16 sidewall was too big, but I got the tires for dirt cheap.
__________________

Best way to do business with me? Make your best offer FIRST.
FaLKoN240 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-08-2007, 09:17 AM   #23
JaeTea
Zilvia Addict
 
JaeTea's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: EC
Posts: 967
Trader Rating: (3)
JaeTea is just really niceJaeTea is just really niceJaeTea is just really niceJaeTea is just really niceJaeTea is just really niceJaeTea is just really niceJaeTea is just really niceJaeTea is just really niceJaeTea is just really niceJaeTea is just really nice
Feedback Score: 3 reviews
Send a message via AIM to JaeTea
Quote:
Originally Posted by 240FaLKoN
Sounds like you need to roll your fenders, if you're rubbing on a 8" wide with a 205.
Seriously..how the hell do you rub with a 205??? Unless your running something like a 205/60
JaeTea is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-08-2007, 09:26 AM   #24
'90RPS13
BANNED
 
'90RPS13's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: NC
Age: 38
Posts: 2,839
Trader Rating: (0)
'90RPS13 has a reputation beyond repute'90RPS13 has a reputation beyond repute'90RPS13 has a reputation beyond repute'90RPS13 has a reputation beyond repute'90RPS13 has a reputation beyond repute'90RPS13 has a reputation beyond repute'90RPS13 has a reputation beyond repute'90RPS13 has a reputation beyond repute'90RPS13 has a reputation beyond repute'90RPS13 has a reputation beyond repute'90RPS13 has a reputation beyond repute
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Send a message via AIM to '90RPS13
Falkon, Those Demon Cambers? *a
'90RPS13 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-08-2007, 09:35 AM   #25
harlockssx
Zilvia Junkie
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: APO AP 96367
Age: 52
Posts: 463
Trader Rating: (19)
harlockssx will become famous soon enoughharlockssx will become famous soon enoughharlockssx will become famous soon enoughharlockssx will become famous soon enough
Feedback Score: 19 reviews
Quote:
Originally Posted by JaeTea
Seriously..how the hell do you rub with a 205??? Unless your running something like a 205/60
Probably due to the wrong offset wheel & slamming it excessively low.

FYI-I run 18X10.5" rear (255/40-18) & 18X9.5" front (225/40-18) without any rubbing anywhere, but my car isn't that low. I like my front bumper too much & am not a drifter...
__________________
Old School
harlockssx is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-08-2007, 11:08 AM   #26
!Zar!
Post Whore!
 
!Zar!'s Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: North Korea
Posts: 14,579
Trader Rating: (27)
!Zar! is close to perfection!Zar! is close to perfection!Zar! is close to perfection!Zar! is close to perfection!Zar! is close to perfection!Zar! is close to perfection!Zar! is close to perfection!Zar! is close to perfection!Zar! is close to perfection!Zar! is close to perfection!Zar! is close to perfection
Feedback Score: 27 reviews
Yay for Demon Cambers. Need to rock them front/back.

Ballin!
__________________
!Zar! is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-08-2007, 04:43 PM   #27
issac
Leaky Injector
 
issac's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: california
Age: 45
Posts: 131
Trader Rating: (1)
issac is just really niceissac is just really niceissac is just really niceissac is just really niceissac is just really niceissac is just really niceissac is just really niceissac is just really nice
Feedback Score: 1 reviews
I should have never asked. I don't remember asking for opinions. But to everyone with positve feedback thank you.
issac is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-08-2007, 04:53 PM   #28
'90RPS13
BANNED
 
'90RPS13's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: NC
Age: 38
Posts: 2,839
Trader Rating: (0)
'90RPS13 has a reputation beyond repute'90RPS13 has a reputation beyond repute'90RPS13 has a reputation beyond repute'90RPS13 has a reputation beyond repute'90RPS13 has a reputation beyond repute'90RPS13 has a reputation beyond repute'90RPS13 has a reputation beyond repute'90RPS13 has a reputation beyond repute'90RPS13 has a reputation beyond repute'90RPS13 has a reputation beyond repute'90RPS13 has a reputation beyond repute
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Send a message via AIM to '90RPS13
No offense man. But there is 2 reasons you didnt find a answer. One, you didnt search. Two, If you did search it yeilded no answers because NO ONE STRETCHS anything less then 17's. Its pointless. 90% of 15's/16's clear unless you have some super jdm tyte y0 offsets. If you do stretch, post up a pic. I am interested to see how it looks. *a
'90RPS13 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-08-2007, 05:00 PM   #29
McRussellPants
Nissanaholic!
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Austin, Tx
Posts: 2,168
Trader Rating: (0)
McRussellPants has a reputation beyond reputeMcRussellPants has a reputation beyond reputeMcRussellPants has a reputation beyond reputeMcRussellPants has a reputation beyond reputeMcRussellPants has a reputation beyond reputeMcRussellPants has a reputation beyond reputeMcRussellPants has a reputation beyond reputeMcRussellPants has a reputation beyond reputeMcRussellPants has a reputation beyond reputeMcRussellPants has a reputation beyond reputeMcRussellPants has a reputation beyond repute
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Quote:
Originally Posted by issac
I should have never asked. I don't remember asking for opinions. But to everyone with positve feedback thank you.
"Will 215/50's give me the stretched look?"

that would be mostly opinion.

heres some more opinions.
sport max suck
15s suck
205/50s suck
McRussellPants is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-08-2007, 05:12 PM   #30
issac
Leaky Injector
 
issac's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: california
Age: 45
Posts: 131
Trader Rating: (1)
issac is just really niceissac is just really niceissac is just really niceissac is just really niceissac is just really niceissac is just really niceissac is just really niceissac is just really nice
Feedback Score: 1 reviews
I knew that hence the question mark at the end. I was apparently given false information about how to ask a question. Blasted miseducation. Sorry about that.
issac is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks



Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -6. The time now is 08:53 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
vB.Sponsors
Copyright ? 1998 - 2022, Zilvia.net