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tastycakeman · 02-08-2007, 11:18 PM

ok, im doing an sr swap right now, and i am confused out of my mind. i was told that in swapping to a blacktop (which all carried the japanese hicas power steering pump), you must either modify the pump to block off one of the lines or you must replace it with a ka nonhicas pump. the ka nonhicas pump is supposed to bolt right up to the sr ps pump bracket, but the ka pump that i got off of my 91 dual cam does not fit. that either means my ka pump is hicas equiped or my brackets are retarded. the thing is, i looked under my car and i did not see a hicas assembly in the back nor toe arms that looked at all tied to a hicas system. so i think what i need to do is get a ka nonhicas pump, or just modify the sr one, except i think i just broke the sr when i took it apart.

please help me. ive been stuck on this thing for a week now and its pissing me off. im close to kicking it in the balls and going manual steering.

tastycakeman · 02-09-2007, 04:27 AM

bumpbumpbumpo

GSXRJJordan · 02-09-2007, 05:09 AM

I'm not sure why your brackets are messed up, I believe all the PS pumps fit using the same brackets.

I've got a redtop SR pump sittin in my garage, with brackets (but no lines) that I used on my non-hicas coupe before I went non-power-steering. I did it because my lines were screwed, and didn't feel like getting new lines for something I didn't really want in the first place. If you want it, shoot me a PM.

g6civcx · 02-09-2007, 08:33 AM

FYI, Taka Motorsports is releasing SR/DE braided steering lines soon. They're the only place I know who sell them. I'm not sure you can get them from the dealer any more.

georgesal · 02-09-2007, 02:45 PM

the probelm is that the sr hicas pump bracket wont owrk on your ka non hicas you need the sr non hicas bracket, i know its a pain, but you could easily use your sr hicas pump just get one of the high pressure banjo fittings welded

steve shadows · 02-09-2007, 02:52 PM

Ill have pics up tonight of my custom pwr steering line. only like 12 inches of line, from the pump straight to the race. I also used a KA tensioner bracket with a KA pump and an SR engine pwr steering bracket. Kind of ruski-rigged it.

CKAMC · 02-09-2007, 03:41 PM

I have always heard people saying to use the DE ka bracket and mod it...

but you can always call a dealership and have them order a non hicas bracket... forgot how much they are.

which dealer? well support our forum and call up/check with mynismo.com

tastycakeman · 02-09-2007, 06:25 PM

the ka bracket i have already is from a de, but none of the bolts line up. my best bet right now is to somehow mod the sr bracket or figure out how to use the sr hicas pump. either way, i dont really know what to do.

steve shadows · 02-09-2007, 09:20 PM

wow so i was going to transfer the pics of the cusotm line from the camera and i delted them on accident

im a jkf df.

tastycakeman · 02-10-2007, 01:04 PM

i dont really care about the steering lines, i just need to know what kind of pump i need.

GSXRJJordan · 02-10-2007, 01:42 PM

point is, either pump will work, you just have to have the correct bracketry. call Justin at Performance Nissan, or email him via mynismo.com, or PM him on here (Justified2.4 I believe), and he'll explain all your options/pricing/timeline. He's da man when it comes to OEM parts.

steve shadows · 02-10-2007, 06:39 PM

if you use the ka24de pump, make sure you flip the pulley around backwards and put it back on the pump face with air...Otherwise it wont line up rigth with the sr crank pulley.

BattleRoyale · 02-10-2007, 08:50 PM

i got a s13 black top and my ps pump was leaking i swapped it with my ka24de one just had to use the brackets off the sr pump.

the oem pulley off the ka ps pump is different i think it has only 3 ribs for the belt, instead of 4 like the sr's

so i just swapped it with the greedy pulley i already had.

works fine was a little snug when trying to tighten the ps belt

tastycakeman · 02-11-2007, 07:36 PM

does anyone have a picture of the kade nonhicas ps pump? that would make my life a lot easier because i think the ka pump i have is the wrong one (wont line up with brackets).

mydogsdrift · 02-12-2007, 03:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CKAMC

I have always heard people saying to use the DE ka bracket and mod it...

but you can always call a dealership and have them order a non hicas bracket... forgot how much they are.

which dealer? well support our forum and call up/check with mynismo.com

Not naming names but some

will hide the bracket at the dealership and never find it.

Are you still trying to use the HICAS bracket? This will not work. The easiest way to fix your problem is open up the HICAS pump and take out the little metal shims that look like squares. Bolt the pump back together and use a larger bolt (don't remember the size) and plug one of the ports on the pump. Bolt it up to the original bracket and bada bing you have powersteering. This will not work if with some aftermarket top-mount exhaust manifolds. The rear end of the pump will hit the runner and not let you fit the pump in the bracket.

tastycakeman · 02-12-2007, 08:40 PM

thank goodness, finally someone with brains who gave some good advice.

sorry to keep dragging this on, but i need to figure it out once and for all. im assuming you only take out the square shims in the back side of the pump (side closest to driver) and then bolt up that hose. anyone ever document this?

02-08-2007, 11:18 PM	#1
tastycakeman Leaky Injector Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: sammamish, WAH Posts: 122 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	ka to sr power steering pump confusion ok, im doing an sr swap right now, and i am confused out of my mind. i was told that in swapping to a blacktop (which all carried the japanese hicas power steering pump), you must either modify the pump to block off one of the lines or you must replace it with a ka nonhicas pump. the ka nonhicas pump is supposed to bolt right up to the sr ps pump bracket, but the ka pump that i got off of my 91 dual cam does not fit. that either means my ka pump is hicas equiped or my brackets are retarded. the thing is, i looked under my car and i did not see a hicas assembly in the back nor toe arms that looked at all tied to a hicas system. so i think what i need to do is get a ka nonhicas pump, or just modify the sr one, except i think i just broke the sr when i took it apart. please help me. ive been stuck on this thing for a week now and its pissing me off. im close to kicking it in the balls and going manual steering.

02-09-2007, 05:09 AM	#3
GSXRJJordan Post Whore! Join Date: May 2006 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 9,135 Trader Rating: (19) Rides Gallery: GSXRJJordan Feedback Score: 19 reviews	I'm not sure why your brackets are messed up, I believe all the PS pumps fit using the same brackets. I've got a redtop SR pump sittin in my garage, with brackets (but no lines) that I used on my non-hicas coupe before I went non-power-steering. I did it because my lines were screwed, and didn't feel like getting new lines for something I didn't really want in the first place. If you want it, shoot me a PM. __________________ Jordan Innovations has a new web site! www.JordanInnovations.com -- All your favorite FD Pro Drifters love it, trust me -- www.JordanInnovations.com

02-09-2007, 02:52 PM	#6
steve shadows Post Whore! Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: LA and OC Posts: 8,202 Trader Rating: (5) Feedback Score: 5 reviews	Ill have pics up tonight of my custom pwr steering line. only like 12 inches of line, from the pump straight to the race. I also used a KA tensioner bracket with a KA pump and an SR engine pwr steering bracket. Kind of ruski-rigged it. __________________ Like Me on FaceBook !

02-09-2007, 03:41 PM	#7
CKAMC Post Whore! Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Desert Age: 38 Posts: 4,804 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I have always heard people saying to use the DE ka bracket and mod it... but you can always call a dealership and have them order a non hicas bracket... forgot how much they are. which dealer? well support our forum and call up/check with mynismo.com __________________

02-09-2007, 09:20 PM	#9
steve shadows Post Whore! Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: LA and OC Posts: 8,202 Trader Rating: (5) Feedback Score: 5 reviews	wow so i was going to transfer the pics of the cusotm line from the camera and i delted them on accident im a jkf df. __________________ Like Me on FaceBook !

02-09-2007, 04:27 AM	#2
tastycakeman Leaky Injector Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: sammamish, WAH Posts: 122 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	bumpbumpbumpo

02-09-2007, 08:33 AM	#4
g6civcx Post Whore! Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Virginia, USA Posts: 5,764 Trader Rating: (5) Feedback Score: 5 reviews	FYI, Taka Motorsports is releasing SR/DE braided steering lines soon. They're the only place I know who sell them. I'm not sure you can get them from the dealer any more.

02-09-2007, 02:45 PM	#5
georgesal BANNED Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Los Angeles Age: 40 Posts: 842 Trader Rating: (2) Feedback Score: 2 reviews	the probelm is that the sr hicas pump bracket wont owrk on your ka non hicas you need the sr non hicas bracket, i know its a pain, but you could easily use your sr hicas pump just get one of the high pressure banjo fittings welded

02-09-2007, 06:25 PM	#8
tastycakeman Leaky Injector Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: sammamish, WAH Posts: 122 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	the ka bracket i have already is from a de, but none of the bolts line up. my best bet right now is to somehow mod the sr bracket or figure out how to use the sr hicas pump. either way, i dont really know what to do.

02-10-2007, 01:04 PM	#10
tastycakeman Leaky Injector Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: sammamish, WAH Posts: 122 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	i dont really care about the steering lines, i just need to know what kind of pump i need.

02-10-2007, 01:42 PM	#11
GSXRJJordan Post Whore! Join Date: May 2006 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 9,135 Trader Rating: (19) Rides Gallery: GSXRJJordan Feedback Score: 19 reviews	point is, either pump will work, you just have to have the correct bracketry. call Justin at Performance Nissan, or email him via mynismo.com, or PM him on here (Justified2.4 I believe), and he'll explain all your options/pricing/timeline. He's da man when it comes to OEM parts. __________________ Jordan Innovations has a new web site! www.JordanInnovations.com -- All your favorite FD Pro Drifters love it, trust me -- www.JordanInnovations.com

02-10-2007, 06:39 PM	#12
steve shadows Post Whore! Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: LA and OC Posts: 8,202 Trader Rating: (5) Feedback Score: 5 reviews	if you use the ka24de pump, make sure you flip the pulley around backwards and put it back on the pump face with air...Otherwise it wont line up rigth with the sr crank pulley. __________________ Like Me on FaceBook !

02-10-2007, 08:50 PM	#13
BattleRoyale Leaky Injector Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: moon Posts: 83 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	i got a s13 black top and my ps pump was leaking i swapped it with my ka24de one just had to use the brackets off the sr pump. the oem pulley off the ka ps pump is different i think it has only 3 ribs for the belt, instead of 4 like the sr's so i just swapped it with the greedy pulley i already had. works fine was a little snug when trying to tighten the ps belt

02-11-2007, 07:36 PM	#14
tastycakeman Leaky Injector Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: sammamish, WAH Posts: 122 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	does anyone have a picture of the kade nonhicas ps pump? that would make my life a lot easier because i think the ka pump i have is the wrong one (wont line up with brackets).

02-12-2007, 08:40 PM	#16
tastycakeman Leaky Injector Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: sammamish, WAH Posts: 122 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	thank goodness, finally someone with brains who gave some good advice. sorry to keep dragging this on, but i need to figure it out once and for all. im assuming you only take out the square shims in the back side of the pump (side closest to driver) and then bolt up that hose. anyone ever document this?