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Got Sileighty? · 09-23-2007, 05:58 PM

the battery in my 240 died about 5 months ago. and due to many reasons/distractions, i havent done anything about it since. so for about 5 months, the car has just been sitting outside doing nothing. well today i finally decided to do something about it and bought a new battery from autozone. so i installed the new on, and also topped off the brake fluid cuz i saw it was pretty much empty.....i start to drive off and i step on the brake, and it just goes all the way down. I HAVE NO BRAKES!! so when it stopped, i start to pump it for about a minute, and nothing. i turn the car off, and start pumping, and it works. but then when i start it again, it goes back to being dead. so i give up and get out of the car. at that point i smell gas. i look in the back and i see that the car has leaked and is still leaking fuel!!....what the hell?!!??!

summary: car not started in 5 months. brakes are now gone. i try to pump it, but it goes away whenever the car is on. AND fuel leakage in the back.

1) what could be wrong with the brakes?
2) do i need to replace the entire tank now?
3) are these things normal after a long period of non-operation?

thanks.

s13speeddrft · 09-23-2007, 06:04 PM

fuel can be leaking from fuel lines as well not necessarily the tank. And about the brakes i am not entirely sure so i am not even going to comment about it.

rb25drag · 09-23-2007, 06:23 PM

Fuel is more than likely from a Dry-rotted hose. Brakes.... Is there any leaks that you can see? Take a look at every hose connection on every wheel and make sure there is nothing wet. Check all the lines coming out of the booster too.

nanner47 · 09-23-2007, 06:53 PM

the reason you have no brakes is because air got sucked into your break lines due to the fact that you let the brake master cylinder run empty... all you have to do is bleed the brakes and you wont get that mushy feeling in your brake pedal... as for the fuel leak.. get under there and find out where its leaking from...

koukimonster139 · 09-23-2007, 07:03 PM

bleed brakes

check fuel lines/tank for leak

Rayne · 09-23-2007, 08:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by koukimonster139

bleed brakes

check fuel lines/tank for leak

My thoughts exactly.

racepar1 · 09-23-2007, 08:24 PM

The only way that the fluid could get low is if you have a leak. Fill up the fluid, bleed it, and pump the pedal really hard and look for fluid. As far as the fuel leak goes the lines are probably rotted, I have seen it several times on other 240's.

Antihero983 · 09-23-2007, 08:25 PM

also, check the o-ring on the fuel sending unit, and check the function of your fuel pump.

whippet · 09-24-2007, 08:48 AM

Are you sure it's not leaking break fluid? Might smell like gas just cause it hasn't been started in a while. Fuel lines under the car are made of metal, I believe.

Koopa Troopa · 09-24-2007, 02:50 PM

Brake fluid likes to eat through shit and has prolly eaten through a seal in the master cylinder.. I suggest rebuilding that and properly bleeding the brakes.

As far as fuel goes... I'm guessing that the drain bolt in your tank could possibly be leaking since most fuel lines are metal there's really not much that can leak in the rear....

m91silvia · 09-24-2007, 02:56 PM

mine did the same thing when i was in the process of rebuilding it.
more like keeping it on the back burner, lol.

i didnt experience any fuel leakage, but i did find my BMC was empty beyond just re-filling.

good thing i didnt drive w.o bleeding it properly.

DJ_Sunrise · 09-24-2007, 04:01 PM

Where did you find this "fuel"? Im fairly sure you blew a seal somewhere in the brakes and it splooged onto other shit. I thought my car was pussing all over itself. When I put it up on the lift, I realized my passenger rear caliper took a shit and

brake fluid everywhere.

-Bart

Got Sileighty? · 10-11-2007, 12:28 PM

UPDATE: well i decided it was too much work for me to do myself, so i took it to a mechanic. he found that the BMC was fukd, so it had to be replaced. then he had to drop the fuel tank to replace the fuel lines....total cost: $410....not too bad i guess....

09-23-2007, 05:58 PM	#1
Got Sileighty? Zilvia Addict Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: SoCaL Age: 46 Posts: 761 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	havent driven the car in 5 months, now problems! the battery in my 240 died about 5 months ago. and due to many reasons/distractions, i havent done anything about it since. so for about 5 months, the car has just been sitting outside doing nothing. well today i finally decided to do something about it and bought a new battery from autozone. so i installed the new on, and also topped off the brake fluid cuz i saw it was pretty much empty.....i start to drive off and i step on the brake, and it just goes all the way down. I HAVE NO BRAKES!! so when it stopped, i start to pump it for about a minute, and nothing. i turn the car off, and start pumping, and it works. but then when i start it again, it goes back to being dead. so i give up and get out of the car. at that point i smell gas. i look in the back and i see that the car has leaked and is still leaking fuel!!....what the hell?!!??! summary: car not started in 5 months. brakes are now gone. i try to pump it, but it goes away whenever the car is on. AND fuel leakage in the back. 1) what could be wrong with the brakes? 2) do i need to replace the entire tank now? 3) are these things normal after a long period of non-operation? thanks.

09-23-2007, 06:04 PM	#2
s13speeddrft Zilvia Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: orange county/ davis Age: 37 Posts: 235 Trader Rating: (1) Rides Gallery: s13speeddrft Feedback Score: 1 reviews	fuel can be leaking from fuel lines as well not necessarily the tank. And about the brakes i am not entirely sure so i am not even going to comment about it. __________________ http://s165.photobucket.com/albums/u63/ajhartma/ 1990 240sx hatch....currently monster truck status, with sunken battleships. Junkyard Scavenger

09-23-2007, 07:03 PM	#5
koukimonster139 Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Birmingham, AL Age: 38 Posts: 1,379 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	bleed brakes check fuel lines/tank for leak __________________ ho ha ho chi chi

09-23-2007, 08:25 PM	#8
Antihero983 Post Whore! Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Gilmanton, NH Age: 40 Posts: 4,409 Trader Rating: (2) Rides Gallery: Antihero983 Feedback Score: 2 reviews	also, check the o-ring on the fuel sending unit, and check the function of your fuel pump. __________________ "So here I am, right back at it again, just like I've always been"

09-24-2007, 02:50 PM	#10
Koopa Troopa Post Whore! Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: 北谷著, 沖縄県、日本 Posts: 2,565 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	Brake fluid likes to eat through shit and has prolly eaten through a seal in the master cylinder.. I suggest rebuilding that and properly bleeding the brakes. As far as fuel goes... I'm guessing that the drain bolt in your tank could possibly be leaking since most fuel lines are metal there's really not much that can leak in the rear.... __________________ Buy my Stillway shifter!

09-23-2007, 06:23 PM	#3
rb25drag BANNED Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: TN Age: 38 Posts: 64 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Fuel is more than likely from a Dry-rotted hose. Brakes.... Is there any leaks that you can see? Take a look at every hose connection on every wheel and make sure there is nothing wet. Check all the lines coming out of the booster too.

09-23-2007, 06:53 PM	#4
nanner47 Leaky Injector Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: albany Posts: 53 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	the reason you have no brakes is because air got sucked into your break lines due to the fact that you let the brake master cylinder run empty... all you have to do is bleed the brakes and you wont get that mushy feeling in your brake pedal... as for the fuel leak.. get under there and find out where its leaking from...

09-23-2007, 08:24 PM	#7
racepar1 Post Whore! Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Simi Valley, CA Age: 42 Posts: 9,006 Trader Rating: (106) Rides Gallery: racepar1 Feedback Score: 106 reviews	The only way that the fluid could get low is if you have a leak. Fill up the fluid, bleed it, and pump the pedal really hard and look for fluid. As far as the fuel leak goes the lines are probably rotted, I have seen it several times on other 240's.

09-24-2007, 08:48 AM	#9
whippet Leaky Injector Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: odessa Age: 43 Posts: 125 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Are you sure it's not leaking break fluid? Might smell like gas just cause it hasn't been started in a while. Fuel lines under the car are made of metal, I believe.

09-24-2007, 02:56 PM	#11
m91silvia Leaky Injector Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: C'd Alene Posts: 51 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	mine did the same thing when i was in the process of rebuilding it. more like keeping it on the back burner, lol. i didnt experience any fuel leakage, but i did find my BMC was empty beyond just re-filling. good thing i didnt drive w.o bleeding it properly.

09-24-2007, 04:01 PM	#12
DJ_Sunrise Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: NJ Age: 38 Posts: 1,134 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	Where did you find this "fuel"? Im fairly sure you blew a seal somewhere in the brakes and it splooged onto other shit. I thought my car was pussing all over itself. When I put it up on the lift, I realized my passenger rear caliper took a shit and brake fluid everywhere. -Bart

10-11-2007, 12:28 PM	#13
Got Sileighty? Zilvia Addict Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: SoCaL Age: 46 Posts: 761 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	UPDATE: well i decided it was too much work for me to do myself, so i took it to a mechanic. he found that the BMC was fukd, so it had to be replaced. then he had to drop the fuel tank to replace the fuel lines....total cost: $410....not too bad i guess....