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COstyle · 08-22-2007, 08:24 PM

Ive got a Z32 vlsd with J30 6 bolt output shafts. The output shafts snap into place but they seem too long. They are not touching the rubber seals. Can someone confirm that these shafts are not fitting correctly and it will not hold fluid or this is acceptable??

JesusFreakDrifter · 08-22-2007, 10:36 PM

they wont fit there are just like the 240sx output shafts, i have a 6 bolt on one side of my 300z diff because the axles wouldn;t fit.
so picture it like this
240 driverside axle--240output shaft--300z diff--300z output shaft--300z axle

they wont lock in like the 300z stock output but the pressure that the 240sx axle will put onto the output shaft will hold it onto the diff

get it

COstyle · 08-24-2007, 11:13 AM

What 240 output shaft did you use? From an open diff? Why is it that everyone says J30 output shafts make a Z32 diff a bolt right in project if they dont fit?? They appear approx 1/4" too long.

What a pain in the ass.

Anyone else have anything to add to this?

slidingsky · 08-24-2007, 11:53 AM

Easy way around that.... Get the non turbo axles/output shafts that come with the Diff. A Z32 N/T is a bolt in affair with 240s if you have a complete LSD conversion.

Either way that will be fine.

-Gabe

COstyle · 08-24-2007, 01:42 PM

Ok wait I just realized that since this diff has an abs sensor on the snout it must be 240 or J30 diff. I bought it with no output shafts at all. I got 6 bolt vlsd output shaft so i could just bolt it in my S13. If its J30 or 240 why wouldn't these 6 bolt output shafts fit properly??

JesusFreakDrifter · 08-24-2007, 04:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by slidingsky

Easy way around that.... Get the non turbo axles/output shafts that come with the Diff. A Z32 N/T is a bolt in affair with 240s if you have a complete LSD conversion.

Either way that will be fine.

-Gabe

no it is not. i have one on my car was not. one of the axles is shorter than the other and the driver axle was way too long, so thats why i put the 240 (s13) 6 bolt output shaft on the driverside of the 300zx diff and used my stock axle. there was no play needed and it bolted right up and held up until this day 2 months or so, i overfilled the diff and it leaked some out the dr output shaft side but stopped immediately after.

the j30 should work w/o any mods just has some play it will fit but will be a tight fit cuz of the slight extra length of the diff snout. just play the d.s onto the diffs snout and you're good to go, along with axles does that help

whereda40at · 10-05-2007, 12:06 PM

so if you get all the parts to a non turbo 300zx diff and axels it will bolt right in with the s13?

i need some thing for tracktion.

whereda40at · 10-05-2007, 09:55 PM

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drift freaq · 10-06-2007, 04:33 PM

ok here we go since the misinformation is flying all over this thread.
First yes you have a J30 or a 240 diff if there is a ABS sensor on the snout. NA Z32 diffs did not have this.

Second off you have to be careful putting the output shafts in. You can actually not get them lined up and they will not seat properly. If you do this and force it you will mess up the splines and the shaft may not go in all the way. Even if it is the right shaft.

You do not need to mix and match 300zx and 240sx axles as well and I would not recommend that to anyone because the 300zx axles are longer, both of them! Period!
Jesusfreakdrifter if you do that your putting extra force on the seal which will cause it to leak.

That aside if you gently tap the shaft back out and make sure you have it on the right and the splines are ok. You can then line it up and tap it back in. Use a large rubber mallet for this.

If you can get the shaft another 1/8 of in inch you should be good to go. Its ok to have some the metal outer protection ring exposed as long as the shaft is seated a bit farther in than in your pic.

Now if you have pounded harshly on the shaft while trying to put it you probably have damaged the splines and that is why it will not slide in any farther.
I have seen this mistake first hand and I have seen a rear end guy file the spines to correct the damage. It can and does happen so be carefull.

supreme_1 · 10-11-2007, 02:17 AM

from the looks of it your not using an lsd output shaft. i could be wrong but thats what happened to me, on one side you can use your stock output shaft from your open diff, but you will need to grind it down it a little bit shorter, and thats about the space that i had to grind off. and on the other side you will need to use a s14, or hicas s13 vlsd output shaft on the longer side.

i could be wrong because i am new to this, but thats just my personal experience.hope that helps

blu808 · 10-11-2007, 03:29 AM

What is wrong is that you either did not search enough. Or you did not buy a weld locd.

Other than that please elaborate on what you are speaking of.

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10-06-2007, 04:33 PM	#9
drift freaq R.I.P. Aya, always love Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Los Feliz/Hollywood Posts: 18,564 Trader Rating: (215) Rides Gallery: drift freaq Feedback Score: 215 reviews	ok here we go since the misinformation is flying all over this thread. First yes you have a J30 or a 240 diff if there is a ABS sensor on the snout. NA Z32 diffs did not have this. Second off you have to be careful putting the output shafts in. You can actually not get them lined up and they will not seat properly. If you do this and force it you will mess up the splines and the shaft may not go in all the way. Even if it is the right shaft. You do not need to mix and match 300zx and 240sx axles as well and I would not recommend that to anyone because the 300zx axles are longer, both of them! Period! Jesusfreakdrifter if you do that your putting extra force on the seal which will cause it to leak. That aside if you gently tap the shaft back out and make sure you have it on the right and the splines are ok. You can then line it up and tap it back in. Use a large rubber mallet for this. If you can get the shaft another 1/8 of in inch you should be good to go. Its ok to have some the metal outer protection ring exposed as long as the shaft is seated a bit farther in than in your pic. Now if you have pounded harshly on the shaft while trying to put it you probably have damaged the splines and that is why it will not slide in any farther. I have seen this mistake first hand and I have seen a rear end guy file the spines to correct the damage. It can and does happen so be carefull. __________________ "Having a lot of tracks on a song is like putting stickers on a car to get more horsepower" New Video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uebV1OnbRsw Buy my mounts! http://zilvia.net/f/sale-items/51531...ns-mounts.html http://zilvia.net/f/tech-talk/317539...e-mouts-6.html

10-11-2007, 03:29 AM	#11
blu808 Post Whore! Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Campbell, Ca Age: 42 Posts: 5,010 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	What is wrong is that you either did not search enough. Or you did not buy a weld locd. Other than that please elaborate on what you are speaking of. __________________

08-22-2007, 10:36 PM	#2
JesusFreakDrifter Zilvia Addict Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: fort lauderdale Posts: 975 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	they wont fit there are just like the 240sx output shafts, i have a 6 bolt on one side of my 300z diff because the axles wouldn;t fit. so picture it like this 240 driverside axle--240output shaft--300z diff--300z output shaft--300z axle they wont lock in like the 300z stock output but the pressure that the 240sx axle will put onto the output shaft will hold it onto the diff get it

08-24-2007, 11:13 AM	#3
COstyle Leaky Injector Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Southeast PA Age: 42 Posts: 140 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	What 240 output shaft did you use? From an open diff? Why is it that everyone says J30 output shafts make a Z32 diff a bolt right in project if they dont fit?? They appear approx 1/4" too long. What a pain in the ass. Anyone else have anything to add to this?

08-24-2007, 11:53 AM	#4
slidingsky Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Georgia Age: 42 Posts: 409 Trader Rating: (3) Rides Gallery: slidingsky Feedback Score: 3 reviews	Easy way around that.... Get the non turbo axles/output shafts that come with the Diff. A Z32 N/T is a bolt in affair with 240s if you have a complete LSD conversion. Either way that will be fine. -Gabe

08-24-2007, 01:42 PM	#5
COstyle Leaky Injector Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Southeast PA Age: 42 Posts: 140 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	Ok wait I just realized that since this diff has an abs sensor on the snout it must be 240 or J30 diff. I bought it with no output shafts at all. I got 6 bolt vlsd output shaft so i could just bolt it in my S13. If its J30 or 240 why wouldn't these 6 bolt output shafts fit properly??

10-11-2007, 02:17 AM	#10
supreme_1 Zilvia Addict Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: hawaii Posts: 612 Trader Rating: (12) Feedback Score: 12 reviews	from the looks of it your not using an lsd output shaft. i could be wrong but thats what happened to me, on one side you can use your stock output shaft from your open diff, but you will need to grind it down it a little bit shorter, and thats about the space that i had to grind off. and on the other side you will need to use a s14, or hicas s13 vlsd output shaft on the longer side. i could be wrong because i am new to this, but thats just my personal experience.hope that helps