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Mikey213 · 10-24-2007, 11:40 AM

Hi im a newb and i have a big problem. My starter has been fudged up for a while now and one day I tried starting a fudged up starter like always and it didn't start this time. So i think it's completly dead, along with my alternator I THINK! My whole electrical system is fudged up. My auto seat belts stop n move stop n move rapidly along with beeping noises going on n off and my windows are SUPER SLOW, lights wont turn on. and i think i hear the starter engaging on n off on n off inno somthing in the tranny keeps clicking...I NEED U'RE HELP PLEASE!!! oh and im pretty sure my bat. is fine i have a yellow top. It's a s13 btw please help this newb... is it just the alternator and starter?

Mikey213 · 10-24-2007, 11:42 AM

oh and all of this happens only when i put the key in ignition and turn it to acc or when i go in my car and close the doors

rps13drift · 10-24-2007, 12:03 PM

Check your batteries cables and clean them with a wire brush. I had the same problem a few years ago and it was from my battery ground cable being corroded

Mikey213 · 10-24-2007, 12:32 PM

but i relocated my bat. behind the passenger... and the wires ar new had them on for only 3 months, plus yellow tops are gel...they wont corode

max2damax · 10-24-2007, 01:10 PM

It dont matter if thay are gel, the posts still corrode,
and +1 on a good ground,

Mikey213 · 10-24-2007, 01:24 PM

i see.. but it happened when i tried starting my car.. and my starter was bad to begin with. Some old white doode said it was good to turn the key back n forth rapidly when ur starters fucked up to make it last a while. It did but now its completly dead. But I checked my terminals and they don't look corroded (no white stuff) and I grounded it to bare chassis (where the old seatbelt bracket was) It was working fine for the last 3 months. What else could it be just incase? Would it be a fuse or somthing? relay that popped? cuz it just happened all of a sudden

axiomatik · 10-24-2007, 01:29 PM

autozone will test your starter and alternator for free. pop em off, take them in and get them tested. that way you will know for sure.

max2damax · 10-24-2007, 01:29 PM

I think you answered your own questions, first you know the starter is bad, so replace it, to check and see if the alternator is bad, (if you can get your car to start,) check for voltage, you should be reading ~15 volts if its good.

Mikey213 · 10-24-2007, 01:34 PM

ok good. Yea i just wanted to make sure that it would just be those things causing the problem, starter/alternator/battery?

Mikey213 · 10-24-2007, 01:34 PM

ill take pix of everything tomaro readings everything and show u if everything went well =0) THANKS

Max_PSi · 10-24-2007, 04:41 PM

If your alternator is bad, with the car running remove the positive terminal to the battery. If the car shuts off, you have a bad alternator.

If the quick stopping, starting your talking about with the seatbelts is what I think it is, then its sounds more like a chatter. Try greasing up the track that the seatbelt rides on.

Mikey213 · 10-25-2007, 07:41 AM

Thats a good idea! BUT MY CAR WONT EVEN START. The seat belt track is ok BUT it was stuttering with all the lights in my dash blinking, twitching guages, and i think the window motor was hesitating because i needed to physically help them close. Hopefully its just my starter completly fried.

projectRDM · 10-25-2007, 09:18 AM

Holy fuck, I can't believe I'm reading this.

Starter does nothing but start the car, period. Anything wrong with it would not effect anything else in the car. Not a thing.

Alternator powers the car and recharges the battery when the car is running. If it hasn't even started yet, the alternator isn't doing anything.

The battery powers the car before starting, powers the starter during start, and receives a charge from the alternator once the car is running.

This is all very, very basic automotive knowledge. So if you're having problems without even starting it, the battery or the battery's wiring is the culprit, not anything else. I'm amazed no one seems to know that. Suggesting that the starter or alternator is the problem is like saying a flat tire is caused by a radio that's too loud.

max2damax · 10-25-2007, 09:31 AM

and also,, push start that biash. if you have a 5sp

Mikey213 · 10-25-2007, 09:53 AM

DUH IM SO FUCKING DUMB...but that's where im lost...HOW CAN THE BAT. WIRES BE MESSED UP? everything was ok i just drove it to the gass station, new wires... can't it be a fuse? FOR SURE MY STARTER is messed up though because it hasn't been starting normally for 3 months. (IT DOESN'T START ONCE I TURN THE KEY, I HAVE TO CRANK IT A BUNCH OF TIMES RAPIDLY TO START IT) i've been doing that for 3 months and i guess finally it just died on me along with retarded electrical..maybe i blew a fuse?

10-24-2007, 11:40 AM	#1
Mikey213 Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Los Angeles Age: 39 Posts: 503 Trader Rating: (-1) Feedback Score: -1 reviews	electrical gone haywire«« Hi im a newb and i have a big problem. My starter has been fudged up for a while now and one day I tried starting a fudged up starter like always and it didn't start this time. So i think it's completly dead, along with my alternator I THINK! My whole electrical system is fudged up. My auto seat belts stop n move stop n move rapidly along with beeping noises going on n off and my windows are SUPER SLOW, lights wont turn on. and i think i hear the starter engaging on n off on n off inno somthing in the tranny keeps clicking...I NEED U'RE HELP PLEASE!!! oh and im pretty sure my bat. is fine i have a yellow top. It's a s13 btw please help this newb... is it just the alternator and starter?

10-24-2007, 12:03 PM	#3
rps13drift Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: NJ BRO!!!! Age: 39 Posts: 1,194 Trader Rating: (6) Rides Gallery: rps13drift Feedback Score: 6 reviews	Check your batteries cables and clean them with a wire brush. I had the same problem a few years ago and it was from my battery ground cable being corroded __________________ http://allies-drift.blogspot.com/

10-24-2007, 01:10 PM	#5
max2damax Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: OSI Age: 42 Posts: 458 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	It dont matter if thay are gel, the posts still corrode, and +1 on a good ground, __________________

10-24-2007, 01:29 PM	#7
axiomatik Post Whore! Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: ATL Posts: 4,702 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	autozone will test your starter and alternator for free. pop em off, take them in and get them tested. that way you will know for sure. __________________

10-24-2007, 01:29 PM	#8
max2damax Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: OSI Age: 42 Posts: 458 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I think you answered your own questions, first you know the starter is bad, so replace it, to check and see if the alternator is bad, (if you can get your car to start,) check for voltage, you should be reading ~15 volts if its good. __________________

10-24-2007, 11:42 AM	#2
Mikey213 Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Los Angeles Age: 39 Posts: 503 Trader Rating: (-1) Feedback Score: -1 reviews	oh and all of this happens only when i put the key in ignition and turn it to acc or when i go in my car and close the doors

10-24-2007, 12:32 PM	#4
Mikey213 Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Los Angeles Age: 39 Posts: 503 Trader Rating: (-1) Feedback Score: -1 reviews	but i relocated my bat. behind the passenger... and the wires ar new had them on for only 3 months, plus yellow tops are gel...they wont corode

10-24-2007, 01:24 PM	#6
Mikey213 Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Los Angeles Age: 39 Posts: 503 Trader Rating: (-1) Feedback Score: -1 reviews	i see.. but it happened when i tried starting my car.. and my starter was bad to begin with. Some old white doode said it was good to turn the key back n forth rapidly when ur starters fucked up to make it last a while. It did but now its completly dead. But I checked my terminals and they don't look corroded (no white stuff) and I grounded it to bare chassis (where the old seatbelt bracket was) It was working fine for the last 3 months. What else could it be just incase? Would it be a fuse or somthing? relay that popped? cuz it just happened all of a sudden

10-24-2007, 01:34 PM	#9
Mikey213 Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Los Angeles Age: 39 Posts: 503 Trader Rating: (-1) Feedback Score: -1 reviews	ok good. Yea i just wanted to make sure that it would just be those things causing the problem, starter/alternator/battery?

10-24-2007, 04:41 PM	#11
Max_PSi Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: NY Age: 46 Posts: 480 Trader Rating: (10) Rides Gallery: Max_PSi Feedback Score: 10 reviews	If your alternator is bad, with the car running remove the positive terminal to the battery. If the car shuts off, you have a bad alternator. If the quick stopping, starting your talking about with the seatbelts is what I think it is, then its sounds more like a chatter. Try greasing up the track that the seatbelt rides on.

10-25-2007, 07:41 AM	#12
Mikey213 Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Los Angeles Age: 39 Posts: 503 Trader Rating: (-1) Feedback Score: -1 reviews	Thats a good idea! BUT MY CAR WONT EVEN START. The seat belt track is ok BUT it was stuttering with all the lights in my dash blinking, twitching guages, and i think the window motor was hesitating because i needed to physically help them close. Hopefully its just my starter completly fried.

10-25-2007, 09:18 AM	#13
projectRDM Post Whore! Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Atlanta Age: 51 Posts: 13,812 Trader Rating: (12) Feedback Score: 12 reviews	Holy fuck, I can't believe I'm reading this. Starter does nothing but start the car, period. Anything wrong with it would not effect anything else in the car. Not a thing. Alternator powers the car and recharges the battery when the car is running. If it hasn't even started yet, the alternator isn't doing anything. The battery powers the car before starting, powers the starter during start, and receives a charge from the alternator once the car is running. This is all very, very basic automotive knowledge. So if you're having problems without even starting it, the battery or the battery's wiring is the culprit, not anything else. I'm amazed no one seems to know that. Suggesting that the starter or alternator is the problem is like saying a flat tire is caused by a radio that's too loud. __________________ FORMERLY R240NA Learn what's really going on and protect your assets now before they're gone forever: www.paypalsucks.com

10-25-2007, 09:31 AM	#14
max2damax Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: OSI Age: 42 Posts: 458 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	and also,, push start that biash. if you have a 5sp __________________

10-25-2007, 09:53 AM	#15
Mikey213 Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Los Angeles Age: 39 Posts: 503 Trader Rating: (-1) Feedback Score: -1 reviews	DUH IM SO FUCKING DUMB...but that's where im lost...HOW CAN THE BAT. WIRES BE MESSED UP? everything was ok i just drove it to the gass station, new wires... can't it be a fuse? FOR SURE MY STARTER is messed up though because it hasn't been starting normally for 3 months. (IT DOESN'T START ONCE I TURN THE KEY, I HAVE TO CRANK IT A BUNCH OF TIMES RAPIDLY TO START IT) i've been doing that for 3 months and i guess finally it just died on me along with retarded electrical..maybe i blew a fuse?