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98koukile · 12-05-2007, 01:13 PM

Just got a JIC 3" muffler for cheap but I've never seen anyone run one before... looked them up on the site and they get $360 for them.
Now when I was originally piecing together my exhaust I wanted to use a 2.5" Borla turbo muffler because I wanted the hot gases to vent quicker and I didn't think I'd need anything bigger.
Does anyone have any experience with either of these? It looks like a quality muffler but for one, I dont know if I'll be able to find 80mm piping or if 3" piping will mate up decently since they're slightly less than 4mm off and secondly it feels pretty heavy, anyone know how much a standard muffler should weigh?

Z33dori · 12-05-2007, 01:17 PM

WTF..................

just slap that JIC on there and call it a day

SW20Racer · 12-05-2007, 01:20 PM

make sure you put some documentation in the exhaust thread and call yourself a pioneer

Brian · 12-05-2007, 01:45 PM

Borla.... come on.

This isn't a Mustang.

Z33dori · 12-05-2007, 01:46 PM

well the borla for the VQ is one of the best.....so i doubt it could heart..

98koukile · 12-05-2007, 01:51 PM

Have you heard a Subie with a Borla? Probably one of the best sounding mufflers I've heard, although this JIC looks to be a similar oval muffler straight thru design

motorsnail · 12-05-2007, 02:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brian

Borla.... come on.

This isn't a Mustang.

Borla has bad ass exhaust for everything.

Mathetai · 12-05-2007, 03:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brian

Borla.... come on.

This isn't a Mustang.

:ghey:

Tops* · 12-05-2007, 03:26 PM

Jock: "This beast's got 500hp and a Borla exhaust system...it does 0-60 in about 4.3 seconds?"
Whenever I hear Borla, it reminds me of this quote from Tokyo Drift.

Just because "I've never seen anyone run one before" doesn't mean you can't. You should just weld up some piping and make the JIC work.

...oh, and the boxer rumble just can't be beat.

98koukile · 12-05-2007, 09:43 PM

I'm thinking I'll keep it, even though my dad called it a bro pipe

Flybert · 12-06-2007, 12:29 AM

A friend has a JIC weld on muffler on his Lancer Ralliart. It sounds amazing.

*fliprayzin240sx* · 12-06-2007, 03:42 AM

Why dont you just get a whole exhaust instead of just a muffler. This reason would be why people dont run them. Why spend that much just for a muffler? Get a whole damn exhaust and be done with it.

Okinawandrifter87 · 12-06-2007, 08:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fliprayzin240sx

Why dont you just get a whole exhaust instead of just a muffler. This reason would be why people dont run them. Why spend that much just for a muffler? Get a whole damn exhaust and be done with it.

haha werd

98koukile · 12-06-2007, 08:58 AM

Not many options I could pull off in MA for exhaust... fart cans get pulled over daily where I live(no modified exhausts allowed) and the only full exhaust I would buy for my car is discontinued and overpriced... rsr exmag. The JIC is nice because it isn't stamped with anything and it has stock looking mounting brackets but the Borla is a smaller tip which doesnt put up any red flags

soreballz · 12-06-2007, 09:04 AM

There are a bunch of stockish looking cat-backs for the S14. Look harder. lol

Okinawandrifter87 · 12-06-2007, 10:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by soreballz

There are a bunch of stockish looking cat-backs for the S14. Look harder. lol

Yeah seriously just look harder there are more options out there for you all you have to do is..

LOOK

xamraci · 12-06-2007, 10:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 98koukile

Have you heard a Subie with a Borla? Probably one of the best sounding mufflers I've heard, although this JIC looks to be a similar oval muffler straight thru design

For Truth...Borla on the STI and WRX is one of the BEST sounding exhausts for that car...Borla=quality

Brian · 12-06-2007, 10:45 AM

God, don't get a Borla.

What is this, a Camaro?

vvtisupra · 12-06-2007, 10:58 AM

scrap the muffler idea and just get the whole JIC Spartan DE Type 1 Ti exhaust

motorsnail · 12-06-2007, 11:29 AM

What do you guys have agianst Borla other then nice mustangs use them? If you make a nice exhaust for one thing, How can you make "shitty" exhaust for another? Its exhaust its not rocket science Borla has some of the best exhaust on the market, just because a mustang has a borla that just means he made the right choice over flowmaster. Go ride in a car with a Borla exhaust mustang,subie,evo and a s2k ive been in with Borla and they where very quite and throaty sounded like pure sex on wheels. Only "JDM" exhaust companys that compare side by side in quality cost atleast $800 and dont even sound as good.

Brian · 12-06-2007, 12:25 PM

yeah guys, quit being JDM-huggers.

USA can produce FANTASTIC parts as well.

vvtisupra · 12-06-2007, 12:47 PM

oh i was just going by the fact that he was gonna scrap a 3 inch exhaust for a 2.5 for a turbo'd car....

EDIT nevermind he was talking about a borla turbo muffler bhabhah my reading comprehension suxors

projectRDM · 12-06-2007, 01:27 PM

I love all the hate.

Borla makes great exhaust systems and they have for decades. Used to be, before the JDM campaign, that's all you could get. They've made systems for virtually every Nissan car/truck, all high quality with OE fit and look. I wouldn't knock anything they make. The sound is also the most unique out there and has been, that's one of the company's known traits.
However, last time I checked they did not offer an S14 system, so just purchasing a universal muffler is your only option there. In that case you can pick up virtually any design and style for less than $50 on Ebay, in any material almost. Have a pipe welded up with your own choice of resonator installed if you're worried about attention. That beats the hell out of paying up to $400 for a name when you're only using a small part of the entire system. Otherwise, buy a full SSA exhaust for $220 and weld a resonator inline somewhere and add a silencer, you're still under $300 for a complete 3" system that's quiet and unobtrusive.

DOOK · 12-06-2007, 01:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by R240NA

I love all the hate.
Otherwise, buy a full SSA exhaust for $220 and weld a resonator inline somewhere and add a silencer, you're still under $300 for a complete 3" system that's quiet and unobtrusive.

exactly what I did

*Sonic Motor* · 12-06-2007, 01:49 PM

i recommend aspec, but thats just me haha... Go aspec mufflers!

hstylez · 12-06-2007, 02:43 PM

IDK what engine you are running but if it's turbocharged then get 3". N/A go 2.5". Borla makes quality products. I had one on my old GTi and it gave a great sound. It doesnt matter what kind of car you have a muffler is a muffler, and Borla makes quality ones. If i was running a muffler it would probably be Borla lol...

!Zar! · 12-06-2007, 04:57 PM

I did a custom setup on my suby and running the borla hush is great for what I needed it for.

HalveBlue · 12-06-2007, 10:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by R240NA

I love all the hate.

Borla makes great exhaust systems and they have for decades. Used to be, before the JDM campaign, that's all you could get. They've made systems for virtually every Nissan car/truck, all high quality with OE fit and look. I wouldn't knock anything they make. The sound is also the most unique out there and has been, that's one of the company's known traits.
However, last time I checked they did not offer an S14 system, so just purchasing a universal muffler is your only option there. In that case you can pick up virtually any design and style for less than $50 on Ebay, in any material almost. Have a pipe welded up with your own choice of resonator installed if you're worried about attention. That beats the hell out of paying up to $400 for a name when you're only using a small part of the entire system. Otherwise, buy a full SSA exhaust for $220 and weld a resonator inline somewhere and add a silencer, you're still under $300 for a complete 3" system that's quiet and unobtrusive.

Word, dude.

Believe or not, plenty of domestic guys run awesome accessories and equipment on their vehicles. On the same note, not all JDM shit is great.

If it works, it works, regardless of country of origin.

And besides, in the end, it's going on YOUR car, not anyone elses. So if you like it, that's all that matters.

98koukile · 12-07-2007, 08:22 AM

Thanks for the input guys

12-05-2007, 01:13 PM	#1
98koukile Zilvia Addict Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Western Mass Age: 38 Posts: 949 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	Borla or JIC Just got a JIC 3" muffler for cheap but I've never seen anyone run one before... looked them up on the site and they get $360 for them. Now when I was originally piecing together my exhaust I wanted to use a 2.5" Borla turbo muffler because I wanted the hot gases to vent quicker and I didn't think I'd need anything bigger. Does anyone have any experience with either of these? It looks like a quality muffler but for one, I dont know if I'll be able to find 80mm piping or if 3" piping will mate up decently since they're slightly less than 4mm off and secondly it feels pretty heavy, anyone know how much a standard muffler should weigh? __________________ Just talking about cars, one at a time Horsepower sells cars torque wins races -Shelby

12-05-2007, 01:17 PM	#2
Z33dori Post Whore! Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Riverview, FL Age: 36 Posts: 5,557 Trader Rating: (12) Feedback Score: 12 reviews	WTF.................. just slap that JIC on there and call it a day __________________

12-05-2007, 01:45 PM	#4
Brian Post Whore! Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: usa Posts: 12,840 Trader Rating: (54) Rides Gallery: Brian Feedback Score: 54 reviews	Borla.... come on. This isn't a Mustang. __________________ http://bhworld.wordpress.com/

12-05-2007, 01:46 PM	#5
Z33dori Post Whore! Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Riverview, FL Age: 36 Posts: 5,557 Trader Rating: (12) Feedback Score: 12 reviews	well the borla for the VQ is one of the best.....so i doubt it could heart.. __________________

12-05-2007, 01:51 PM	#6
98koukile Zilvia Addict Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Western Mass Age: 38 Posts: 949 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	Have you heard a Subie with a Borla? Probably one of the best sounding mufflers I've heard, although this JIC looks to be a similar oval muffler straight thru design __________________ Just talking about cars, one at a time Horsepower sells cars torque wins races -Shelby

12-05-2007, 01:20 PM	#3
SW20Racer Nissanaholic! Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Beaumont Age: 40 Posts: 1,633 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	make sure you put some documentation in the exhaust thread and call yourself a pioneer

12-05-2007, 03:26 PM	#9
Tops* Zilvia Addict Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: SF, CA Age: 37 Posts: 966 Trader Rating: (6) Feedback Score: 6 reviews	Jock: "This beast's got 500hp and a Borla exhaust system...it does 0-60 in about 4.3 seconds?" Whenever I hear Borla, it reminds me of this quote from Tokyo Drift. Just because "I've never seen anyone run one before" doesn't mean you can't. You should just weld up some piping and make the JIC work. ...oh, and the boxer rumble just can't be beat. __________________ MADE IN JAPAN

12-05-2007, 09:43 PM	#10
98koukile Zilvia Addict Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Western Mass Age: 38 Posts: 949 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	I'm thinking I'll keep it, even though my dad called it a bro pipe __________________ Just talking about cars, one at a time Horsepower sells cars torque wins races -Shelby

12-06-2007, 12:29 AM	#11
Flybert Post Whore! Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: none Posts: 3,862 Trader Rating: (7) Feedback Score: 7 reviews	A friend has a JIC weld on muffler on his Lancer Ralliart. It sounds amazing.

12-06-2007, 03:42 AM	#12
fliprayzin240sx Man w/ CTSV & a Car Seat Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Tampa Posts: 17,998 Trader Rating: (19) Rides Gallery: fliprayzin240sx Feedback Score: 19 reviews	Why dont you just get a whole exhaust instead of just a muffler. This reason would be why people dont run them. Why spend that much just for a muffler? Get a whole damn exhaust and be done with it. __________________ If you think Zilvia has too many assholes... CLICK HERE!!!

12-06-2007, 08:58 AM	#14
98koukile Zilvia Addict Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Western Mass Age: 38 Posts: 949 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	Not many options I could pull off in MA for exhaust... fart cans get pulled over daily where I live(no modified exhausts allowed) and the only full exhaust I would buy for my car is discontinued and overpriced... rsr exmag. The JIC is nice because it isn't stamped with anything and it has stock looking mounting brackets but the Borla is a smaller tip which doesnt put up any red flags __________________ Just talking about cars, one at a time Horsepower sells cars torque wins races -Shelby

12-06-2007, 10:45 AM	#18
Brian Post Whore! Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: usa Posts: 12,840 Trader Rating: (54) Rides Gallery: Brian Feedback Score: 54 reviews	God, don't get a Borla. What is this, a Camaro? __________________ http://bhworld.wordpress.com/

12-06-2007, 10:58 AM	#19
vvtisupra Nissanaholic! Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: SB and OC Posts: 2,118 Trader Rating: (16) Feedback Score: 16 reviews	scrap the muffler idea and just get the whole JIC Spartan DE Type 1 Ti exhaust __________________ http://www.fuckdrama.com/

12-06-2007, 11:29 AM	#20
motorsnail Zilvia Addict Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Oklahoma Age: 37 Posts: 625 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	What do you guys have agianst Borla other then nice mustangs use them? If you make a nice exhaust for one thing, How can you make "shitty" exhaust for another? Its exhaust its not rocket science Borla has some of the best exhaust on the market, just because a mustang has a borla that just means he made the right choice over flowmaster. Go ride in a car with a Borla exhaust mustang,subie,evo and a s2k ive been in with Borla and they where very quite and throaty sounded like pure sex on wheels. Only "JDM" exhaust companys that compare side by side in quality cost atleast $800 and dont even sound as good.

12-06-2007, 12:25 PM	#21
Brian Post Whore! Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: usa Posts: 12,840 Trader Rating: (54) Rides Gallery: Brian Feedback Score: 54 reviews	yeah guys, quit being JDM-huggers. USA can produce FANTASTIC parts as well. __________________ http://bhworld.wordpress.com/

12-06-2007, 12:47 PM	#22
vvtisupra Nissanaholic! Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: SB and OC Posts: 2,118 Trader Rating: (16) Feedback Score: 16 reviews	oh i was just going by the fact that he was gonna scrap a 3 inch exhaust for a 2.5 for a turbo'd car.... EDIT nevermind he was talking about a borla turbo muffler bhabhah my reading comprehension suxors __________________ http://www.fuckdrama.com/

12-06-2007, 01:27 PM	#23
projectRDM Post Whore! Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Atlanta Age: 51 Posts: 13,812 Trader Rating: (12) Feedback Score: 12 reviews	I love all the hate. Borla makes great exhaust systems and they have for decades. Used to be, before the JDM campaign, that's all you could get. They've made systems for virtually every Nissan car/truck, all high quality with OE fit and look. I wouldn't knock anything they make. The sound is also the most unique out there and has been, that's one of the company's known traits. However, last time I checked they did not offer an S14 system, so just purchasing a universal muffler is your only option there. In that case you can pick up virtually any design and style for less than $50 on Ebay, in any material almost. Have a pipe welded up with your own choice of resonator installed if you're worried about attention. That beats the hell out of paying up to $400 for a name when you're only using a small part of the entire system. Otherwise, buy a full SSA exhaust for $220 and weld a resonator inline somewhere and add a silencer, you're still under $300 for a complete 3" system that's quiet and unobtrusive. __________________ FORMERLY R240NA Learn what's really going on and protect your assets now before they're gone forever: www.paypalsucks.com

12-06-2007, 01:49 PM	#25
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12-06-2007, 02:43 PM	#26
hstylez Zilvia Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Ohio Posts: 253 Trader Rating: (4) Feedback Score: 4 reviews	IDK what engine you are running but if it's turbocharged then get 3". N/A go 2.5". Borla makes quality products. I had one on my old GTi and it gave a great sound. It doesnt matter what kind of car you have a muffler is a muffler, and Borla makes quality ones. If i was running a muffler it would probably be Borla lol... __________________ S13 Coupe SR20DET

12-06-2007, 04:57 PM	#27
!Zar! Post Whore! Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: North Korea Posts: 14,579 Trader Rating: (27) Feedback Score: 27 reviews	I did a custom setup on my suby and running the borla hush is great for what I needed it for. __________________

12-07-2007, 08:22 AM	#29
98koukile Zilvia Addict Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Western Mass Age: 38 Posts: 949 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	Thanks for the input guys __________________ Just talking about cars, one at a time Horsepower sells cars torque wins races -Shelby