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Mi Beardo es Loco · 04-28-2008, 08:24 PM

ARC is a little expensive but was just curious on performance on their induction box and side mount intercooler. A friend of mine want to keep his SR low profile so he's sticking with the SM but wants to upgrade to a more efficient IC. I know that a s15 IC could hold up to 15psi but what would you expect from the ARC unit over stock? Is it honestly better than a pretty good Front mount?

Also, the induction box is a pretty nice piece and have seen this on some really high performing cars but for the price is it worth it? I've recently seen this on the FS section but they've sold pretty fast.

Anyone with any experience with ARC or SR ARC parts?

*TougeLabs* · 04-29-2008, 07:01 PM

hmm i think you are posting in the wrong section but anyway arc uses the same core as hks...The induction box is prob one of the best intakes on the market if i had a stock style turbo setup i would deff pick one up...good luck man

Mister.E · 04-29-2008, 07:07 PM

i have an ARC SMIC chillin in my garage. i wanted an FMIC so i bought a Greddy, but while i was still rockin the SMIC the ARC unit seemed to hold up pretty well to the abuse. when i bought the car it came with the ARC SMIC so i dont really have any way to compare it to the stock SMIC, but i think it may be a little bigger and its constructed pretty damn well.

burnsauto · 05-11-2008, 07:57 PM

the arc induction box actually doesnt do shit.

save yourself 200 bucks and get an a'pexi filter. They filter the best (they did bench flow tests with most major filters, they came out on top.) and are pretty affordable.

Propaganda · 05-11-2008, 08:12 PM

I've read that the ARC induction box lost power on an S2000

thestreetzking · 05-11-2008, 08:46 PM

if u want ARC parts be prepared to wait.. took my friend like 4 months for shift knob and there radiators and such take like 8, unless u find someone with them in stock.

MadScientist · 05-11-2008, 09:20 PM

ARC is Imported by Mackin so expect a 4-6 month wait if the parts are not stocked.
The Intercoolers and Radiators are the best of the best... if you drop the coin.

The Intake Box is a nice addition if you looking to dress up the engine bay, but I have always been turned away by the open filter facing the hood... not exactly ideal getting cold air... even running duct work is odd.

SMIC is the same as the HKS version and you can find both rather easy, and cheep. Not sure on gain but they are very thick!!

Options on Intakes... I personally think the Blitz SUS dominates all others... why?? 200 micron filter made of stainless steel.... air is being constantly passed over the filter cooling the metal... in return its cooling the air... and it looks awsome!!
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-Drew

Sileighty_85 · 05-11-2008, 10:21 PM

The Side mount Is thicker but its more for heat dissapation than for holding more pressure.
you can run 15 PSI on the stock side mount but you'll just heat soak the shit out of it.

So if your buddies lookin it to be Low Pro, than it would be a good choice depending on his power goals

MaD1337M3DRiV3r · 05-11-2008, 10:25 PM

any sidemount is going to heat soak... even at 15psi.

However I am running a stock s15 SMIC on my sr13 sr and it seems to be doing very well at stock boost.

Sileighty_85 · 05-11-2008, 10:35 PM

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Originally Posted by MaD1337M3DRiV3r

any sidemount is going to heat soak... even at 15psi.

Why is that? So a bigger side mount will heat soak the same as a smaller Side mount at the same PSI level?

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Originally Posted by MaD1337M3DRiV3r

However I am running a stock s15 SMIC on my sr13 sr and it seems to be doing very well at stock boost.

Whats your point the Stock S13 Side mount holds up under stock boost.

Mi Beardo es Loco · 05-12-2008, 07:49 PM

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Originally Posted by MaD1337M3DRiV3r

any sidemount is going to heat soak... even at 15psi.

However I am running a stock s15 SMIC on my sr13 sr and it seems to be doing very well at stock boost.

and where might one buy a stock s15 smic? I tried google and found nothing. Didn't even think about the s15 smic.

Jtuned_andy · 05-12-2008, 08:04 PM

Try contacting engine importers. They may have spare SMIC lying around?

blackej7 · 05-12-2008, 08:07 PM

I had the ARC SMIC. It was hard to tell its performance over stock, but I had no problems with it.

MaD1337M3DRiV3r · 05-12-2008, 11:39 PM

the general rule to apply here is that the larger the core the longer it will take to heat soak.

The S13 SMIC is smaller than the S15 one and the ARC is bigger than both. But the ARC ones cost way the hell too much, so I bought a S15 one which should be good for 12psi on a T25 with supporting mods

!Zar! · 05-12-2008, 11:43 PM

ARC smic's can be had for cheap.

MaD1337M3DRiV3r · 05-12-2008, 11:50 PM

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Originally Posted by !Zar!

ARC smic's can be had for cheap.

oh ya? how much from where? new used? enlighten me

Dutchmalmiss · 05-12-2008, 11:56 PM

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Originally Posted by blackej7

I had the ARC SMIC. It was hard to tell its performance over stock, but I had no problems with it.

Yeah I think I bought it from you haha. FYI, it's handling 10psi pretty good. Because of its position, you'd need to make some ducting to get good airflow to it.

MaD1337M3DRiV3r · 05-13-2008, 12:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Dutchmalmiss

Yeah I think I bought it from you haha. FYI, it's handling 10psi pretty good. Because of its position, you'd need to make some ducting to get good airflow to it.

i'm running stock ducting on the s15 one, its actually working out really nice.

s13 size (not s13) compared to the s15

here is a pic of what it looks like (not mine)

Dutchmalmiss · 05-13-2008, 12:06 AM

Yeah you can't use the same OEM ducting for the ARC sidemount because it sits at a very different angle.

!Zar! · 05-13-2008, 12:23 AM

Yes you can.

I placed one on a silvia front with oem piping and it fit perfectly.

Chuuki takes a bit of finessing to fit. Haven't put it on yet. Just tried.

Dutchmalmiss · 05-13-2008, 12:28 AM

Maybe more specifically, the pignose bumper haha.

MaD1337M3DRiV3r · 05-13-2008, 12:31 AM

The ARC side mount is around 100mm thick compared to 80mm for the standard s15 cooler.

Either way the moral of this story should be that no matter which SMIC you go with it still sucks because FMIC is much better.

Personally i'm sticking to the SMIC for 2 reasons. 1 to not block my radiator, and 2 to not show a FMIC to the entire world (car jackers and cops)

blackej7 · 05-13-2008, 12:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dutchmalmiss

Yeah I think I bought it from you haha. FYI, it's handling 10psi pretty good. Because of its position, you'd need to make some ducting to get good airflow to it.

awesome man, glad its working well

MaD1337M3DRiV3r · 05-13-2008, 12:43 AM

ya i dont call 200 cheap for a used SMIC lol ... it is cheap compared to the 400 something they used to sell for.

!Zar! · 05-13-2008, 12:45 AM

You can find them cheaper, just look around.

I mean, I got a s15 sidemount for like less than $20 one time.

mjjstang · 05-13-2008, 12:52 AM

i love my ARC FMIC, have never dealt with their SMIC though, and I dont fall for induction kits, nothing beats a short large homemade pipe with a 12 dollar filter on the end of it.

Silverbullet · 05-13-2008, 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Propaganda

I've read that the ARC induction box lost power on an S2000

thats because the S2000 OEM intake box out performs all aftermarket intakes for the S2000.

I've had an ARC SMIC before. Its def an upgrade from the stock SMIC. I would recommend it if your looking to stay sleeperish.

Propaganda · 05-13-2008, 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Silverbullet

thats because the S2000 OEM intake box out performs all aftermarket intakes for the S2000.

Cool beans, didn't know that

04-29-2008, 07:07 PM	#3
Mister.E Post Whore! Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Las Vegas Age: 40 Posts: 4,590 Trader Rating: (53) Feedback Score: 53 reviews	i have an ARC SMIC chillin in my garage. i wanted an FMIC so i bought a Greddy, but while i was still rockin the SMIC the ARC unit seemed to hold up pretty well to the abuse. when i bought the car it came with the ARC SMIC so i dont really have any way to compare it to the stock SMIC, but i think it may be a little bigger and its constructed pretty damn well. __________________ : @e_lemonation

05-11-2008, 07:57 PM	#4
burnsauto Post Whore! Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: 717, PA Age: 39 Posts: 3,324 Trader Rating: (6) Rides Gallery: burnsauto Feedback Score: 6 reviews	the arc induction box actually doesnt do shit. save yourself 200 bucks and get an a'pexi filter. They filter the best (they did bench flow tests with most major filters, they came out on top.) and are pretty affordable. __________________

05-11-2008, 10:21 PM	#8
Sileighty_85 Post Whore! Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Misawa, Japan Posts: 6,815 Trader Rating: (8) Feedback Score: 8 reviews	The Side mount Is thicker but its more for heat dissapation than for holding more pressure. you can run 15 PSI on the stock side mount but you'll just heat soak the shit out of it. So if your buddies lookin it to be Low Pro, than it would be a good choice depending on his power goals __________________ 後輪駆動車１番 1989 Built SR GT2871R -363whp 1998 S14 W/RB25- 250ish (For Now) 1986 SR86 - 200ish 1990 R32 GTR - 320hp Don't Buy Engines from JDM-Online http://zilvia.net/f/businesses/207457-jdm-online.html Don't Buy XS-Power or SSAC Shit

05-12-2008, 08:04 PM	#12
Jtuned_andy Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: East Coast Posts: 1,086 Trader Rating: (28) Rides Gallery: Jtuned_andy Feedback Score: 28 reviews	Try contacting engine importers. They may have spare SMIC lying around? __________________

05-12-2008, 08:07 PM	#13
blackej7 Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Midwest Posts: 324 Trader Rating: (9) Feedback Score: 9 reviews	I had the ARC SMIC. It was hard to tell its performance over stock, but I had no problems with it. __________________

04-29-2008, 07:01 PM	#2
TougeLabs Premium Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: New York Age: 39 Posts: 1,570 Trader Rating: (7) Feedback Score: 7 reviews	hmm i think you are posting in the wrong section but anyway arc uses the same core as hks...The induction box is prob one of the best intakes on the market if i had a stock style turbo setup i would deff pick one up...good luck man

05-11-2008, 08:12 PM	#5
Propaganda Zilvia Junkie Join Date: May 2005 Location: Charleston, SC Age: 38 Posts: 451 Trader Rating: (10) Feedback Score: 10 reviews	I've read that the ARC induction box lost power on an S2000

05-11-2008, 08:46 PM	#6
thestreetzking Zilvia Junkie Join Date: May 2007 Location: New York Age: 37 Posts: 473 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	if u want ARC parts be prepared to wait.. took my friend like 4 months for shift knob and there radiators and such take like 8, unless u find someone with them in stock.

05-11-2008, 09:20 PM	#7
MadScientist Zilvia.net Advertiser Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: NOLA Age: 48 Posts: 1,972 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	ARC is Imported by Mackin so expect a 4-6 month wait if the parts are not stocked. The Intercoolers and Radiators are the best of the best... if you drop the coin. The Intake Box is a nice addition if you looking to dress up the engine bay, but I have always been turned away by the open filter facing the hood... not exactly ideal getting cold air... even running duct work is odd. SMIC is the same as the HKS version and you can find both rather easy, and cheep. Not sure on gain but they are very thick!! Options on Intakes... I personally think the Blitz SUS dominates all others... why?? 200 micron filter made of stainless steel.... air is being constantly passed over the filter cooling the metal... in return its cooling the air... and it looks awsome!! .02 -Drew

05-11-2008, 10:25 PM	#9
MaD1337M3DRiV3r Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Los Angeles (818) Posts: 304 Trader Rating: (1) Rides Gallery: MaD1337M3DRiV3r Feedback Score: 1 reviews	any sidemount is going to heat soak... even at 15psi. However I am running a stock s15 SMIC on my sr13 sr and it seems to be doing very well at stock boost.

05-12-2008, 11:39 PM	#14
MaD1337M3DRiV3r Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Los Angeles (818) Posts: 304 Trader Rating: (1) Rides Gallery: MaD1337M3DRiV3r Feedback Score: 1 reviews	the general rule to apply here is that the larger the core the longer it will take to heat soak. The S13 SMIC is smaller than the S15 one and the ARC is bigger than both. But the ARC ones cost way the hell too much, so I bought a S15 one which should be good for 12psi on a T25 with supporting mods

05-12-2008, 11:43 PM	#15
!Zar! Post Whore! Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: North Korea Posts: 14,579 Trader Rating: (27) Feedback Score: 27 reviews	ARC smic's can be had for cheap. __________________

05-13-2008, 12:06 AM	#19
Dutchmalmiss Post Whore! Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Socal (323) Age: 39 Posts: 3,501 Trader Rating: (14) Feedback Score: 14 reviews	Yeah you can't use the same OEM ducting for the ARC sidemount because it sits at a very different angle. __________________ Pignose, biaaatch.

05-13-2008, 12:23 AM	#20
!Zar! Post Whore! Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: North Korea Posts: 14,579 Trader Rating: (27) Feedback Score: 27 reviews	Yes you can. I placed one on a silvia front with oem piping and it fit perfectly. Chuuki takes a bit of finessing to fit. Haven't put it on yet. Just tried. __________________

05-13-2008, 12:28 AM	#21
Dutchmalmiss Post Whore! Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Socal (323) Age: 39 Posts: 3,501 Trader Rating: (14) Feedback Score: 14 reviews	Maybe more specifically, the pignose bumper haha. __________________ Pignose, biaaatch.

05-13-2008, 12:31 AM	#22
MaD1337M3DRiV3r Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Los Angeles (818) Posts: 304 Trader Rating: (1) Rides Gallery: MaD1337M3DRiV3r Feedback Score: 1 reviews	The ARC side mount is around 100mm thick compared to 80mm for the standard s15 cooler. Either way the moral of this story should be that no matter which SMIC you go with it still sucks because FMIC is much better. Personally i'm sticking to the SMIC for 2 reasons. 1 to not block my radiator, and 2 to not show a FMIC to the entire world (car jackers and cops)

05-13-2008, 12:43 AM	#24
MaD1337M3DRiV3r Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Los Angeles (818) Posts: 304 Trader Rating: (1) Rides Gallery: MaD1337M3DRiV3r Feedback Score: 1 reviews	ya i dont call 200 cheap for a used SMIC lol ... it is cheap compared to the 400 something they used to sell for.

05-13-2008, 12:45 AM	#25
!Zar! Post Whore! Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: North Korea Posts: 14,579 Trader Rating: (27) Feedback Score: 27 reviews	You can find them cheaper, just look around. I mean, I got a s15 sidemount for like less than $20 one time. __________________

05-13-2008, 12:52 AM	#26
mjjstang Post Whore! Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Michigan Posts: 2,654 Trader Rating: (5) Feedback Score: 5 reviews	i love my ARC FMIC, have never dealt with their SMIC though, and I dont fall for induction kits, nothing beats a short large homemade pipe with a 12 dollar filter on the end of it. __________________ I was going to, but I can not think of a sig less than 75 characters.