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four · 10-06-2002, 09:19 AM

what do you guys think?  Anyone had previous experience with both?  I really need to get my new shocks so that I can install my springs too.  I wanna do it all in one shot.  So what do you guys suggest?

jk240sx · 10-06-2002, 09:43 AM

kyb agx for s14 are out now. $399 for the set. get them better for aftermarket springs. strano has them.

four · 10-06-2002, 10:21 AM

yeah, i know they're out.  i posted on the group buy sec. to see how many of us want em.  cuz i know this one guy that has them.  maybe we can convince him to do a group buy.

misnomer · 10-06-2002, 01:27 PM

AGX are one of the top choices, if you want to lay down the money. Where are you finding Tokico Blues and GR2s at the same price? The Tokicos are usually a bit more expensive. . . IIRC, Tokicos are a bit stiffer, and are generally regarded as a bit better shock than GR2s. What springs are  you getting? That will have an impact on which shocks will be best. The lower/stiffer the spring, the stiffer the shock you want. Underdampened cars aren't so fun to drive, and they look silly going over bumps <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='

'>

Anyhow, I have Tokico Blue shocks on Tokico springs and love the setup.

four · 10-06-2002, 02:20 PM

Im prob. gona go with the AGXs.  they're on group buy right now for a total of 390 shipped to my house If you ask me, thats pretty fuckin good.  Anyway, im still deciding, because when i get the adjustables, im proly gona always keep it on stiff anyway.  But I really dont know yet.  My springs are suspension techniques 1.3 drop.  you guys think its worth it to get the adjustables? especially since its running for a good price right now.?

by the way, i found the tokico blues and KYB non adj. at

www.coximport.com

flipboi13 · 10-06-2002, 11:18 PM

I really have no idea about suspension setups.  For now tho, I wanted to upgrade to shocks/struts from stock.  I was thinking about the group buy for the GR-2 but are those bad for street setups??  I'm looking for an upgrade for my daily driven 95.  Its daily driven, but at night, i take it to secluded areas to practice drifting and other things, so any suggestions??  I guess the AGX sound worth the money, but I'm not a big fan of adjusting my suspension all the time especially if its not a HUGE improvement. But i dunno.  Thanks for any help.

S14Racer · 10-06-2002, 11:47 PM

I installed my tokico blues and eibach prokit two weeks ago and so far they've been great.  I can tell my car is lower, not super low, but much much stiffer.

misnomer · 10-07-2002, 02:36 PM

Flipboi: GR2s are decent, but not really a huge improvement over factory shocks/struts. If you want an improvement, shoot for the Blues or AGX. You don't constantly need to adjust the AGX shocks, just put them on the setting you want and leavem.

s14: Kind of odd that you didn't notice the suspension to be stiffer. My tokico springs and shocks made the car markedly stiffer than stock. The car doesn't roll much into the turns anymore, pitch and dive are hardly noticeable, and when I sit in it, it doesn't move <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='

'> I've never ridden on Prokits, though, so I can't compare.

Did any of y'all with factory front and rear sway bars notice a difference from upgrading? My car has both from the factory, and I'm reluctant to upgrade if it's not a noticeable difference. . .

StreetDemon240sx · 10-18-2002, 06:19 PM

Are the AGX good with sportline springs.

S14Racer · 10-18-2002, 06:25 PM

Ive had tokico blues and a prokit on my car for a month.  So far the ride has been excellent, but I wish it were a little stiffer.

i hate rice rockets · 10-18-2002, 08:31 PM

ive heard alot of bad things bout the tokicos...so i suggest not getting those...but the kyb is good...im lookin into getting the kyb or the agx..but hey its ur money so u do whatever u want with it <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='

'>

AutoDestruct · 10-19-2002, 10:02 PM

I had Tokico's once.  I couldn't tell that they did a damn thing.  Don't waste you money man.  My 2c

sheadee240 · 10-19-2002, 11:43 PM

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (misnomer @ Oct. 07 2002,3:36)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Flipboi: GR2s are decent, but not really a huge improvement over factory shocks/struts. If you want an improvement, shoot for the Blues or AGX. You don't constantly need to adjust the AGX shocks, just put them on the setting you want and leavem.

s14: Kind of odd that you didn't notice the suspension to be stiffer. My tokico springs and shocks made the car markedly stiffer than stock. The car doesn't roll much into the turns anymore, pitch and dive are hardly noticeable, and when I sit in it, it doesn't move <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='

'> I've never ridden on Prokits, though, so I can't compare.

Did any of y'all with factory front and rear sway bars notice a difference from upgrading? My car has both from the factory, and I'm reluctant to upgrade if it's not a noticeable difference. . .</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
I have a 97 se with eibach pro-kit, KYB GR2s, suspension techniques f/r sway bars, front upper strut bar, rear upper strut bar, rear lower control arm tie bar, polyurethane T/C arm bushings, 25 millimeter hub-centric spacers, 17s with 235/40/17ZRs with a treadwear of 160, and OZ 15s with 225/45/15s kumho ecstas with a treadwear of 50 and I don't think it is underdampened at all.  It is a daily driver (my only car) and my auto-X car.  It handles like a freaken roller coaster and doesn't beat you up on the bumps, but it IS stiff!

I would definately have gotten the AGXs if they were out when I did the springs, I have heard great things about them.  I heard that the Tokicos are great for a whole year if you are lucky and then they don't do sheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeit!

And yes it is definitely a noticable improvement to upgrade from SE sway bars to aftermarket.  I got F/R Suspension techniques sways on special from JCWhiney for $187.43 incl. shipping (bah-gen foh me), but the rear linkage bolt was too damn long and I had to throw some of the old rotten rubber bushings in there to take up the extra space.

Now I just need some LSD.....I mean VLSD

Sauceboy01 · 10-20-2002, 04:06 PM

I personally think you should go with the Tokico's. You will notice a big difference not only in performance, also in ride comfort, Which is a key factor. My opinion on the AGX are crap. AGX's aren't very good when they come to aborbing shock very well... my experience shows that. Dont get me wrong KYB's aren't that bad, but better for an All time track car, and not a Daily Driven Sport machine.  Also Tokico also offers compatible Tokico brand Springs to come with it.

Go with Tokico, you'll be happier.

Call my buddy he's a dealer for Tokico, Mention that i refered you (Danny) and he'll hook you up with a GREAT price. 714-641-0116!

10-06-2002, 09:43 AM	#2
jk240sx Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: SLC Utah Posts: 19 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	kyb agx for s14 are out now. $399 for the set. get them better for aftermarket springs. strano has them. __________________ jerry/ 97 S14 SE

10-06-2002, 01:27 PM	#4
misnomer Nissanaholic! Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Nevada Posts: 2,293 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	AGX are one of the top choices, if you want to lay down the money. Where are you finding Tokico Blues and GR2s at the same price? The Tokicos are usually a bit more expensive. . . IIRC, Tokicos are a bit stiffer, and are generally regarded as a bit better shock than GR2s. What springs are  you getting? That will have an impact on which shocks will be best. The lower/stiffer the spring, the stiffer the shock you want. Underdampened cars aren't so fun to drive, and they look silly going over bumps <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=''> Anyhow, I have Tokico Blue shocks on Tokico springs and love the setup. __________________ Rowsdower saves us and saves all the world!

10-06-2002, 11:47 PM	#7
S14Racer Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: NCSU Raleigh, NC Posts: 32 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I installed my tokico blues and eibach prokit two weeks ago and so far they've been great.  I can tell my car is lower, not super low, but much much stiffer. __________________ '96 240sx Tokico Blue Struts,Eibach Prokit, Generic Strut bars Drilled/Slotted Rotors, Semi-Metallic Brake pads B&M Shifter BLUE-TINTED HIGH PERFORMANCE RACING HEADLIGHTS

10-07-2002, 02:36 PM	#8
misnomer Nissanaholic! Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Nevada Posts: 2,293 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Flipboi: GR2s are decent, but not really a huge improvement over factory shocks/struts. If you want an improvement, shoot for the Blues or AGX. You don't constantly need to adjust the AGX shocks, just put them on the setting you want and leavem. s14: Kind of odd that you didn't notice the suspension to be stiffer. My tokico springs and shocks made the car markedly stiffer than stock. The car doesn't roll much into the turns anymore, pitch and dive are hardly noticeable, and when I sit in it, it doesn't move <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=''> I've never ridden on Prokits, though, so I can't compare. Did any of y'all with factory front and rear sway bars notice a difference from upgrading? My car has both from the factory, and I'm reluctant to upgrade if it's not a noticeable difference. . . __________________ Rowsdower saves us and saves all the world!

10-18-2002, 06:25 PM	#10
S14Racer Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: NCSU Raleigh, NC Posts: 32 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Ive had tokico blues and a prokit on my car for a month.  So far the ride has been excellent, but I wish it were a little stiffer. __________________ '96 240sx Tokico Blue Struts,Eibach Prokit, Generic Strut bars Drilled/Slotted Rotors, Semi-Metallic Brake pads B&M Shifter BLUE-TINTED HIGH PERFORMANCE RACING HEADLIGHTS

10-06-2002, 09:19 AM	#1
four Zilvia Addict Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Northern New Jersey Age: 41 Posts: 673 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	what do you guys think?  Anyone had previous experience with both?  I really need to get my new shocks so that I can install my springs too.  I wanna do it all in one shot.  So what do you guys suggest?

10-06-2002, 10:21 AM	#3
four Zilvia Addict Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Northern New Jersey Age: 41 Posts: 673 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	yeah, i know they're out.  i posted on the group buy sec. to see how many of us want em.  cuz i know this one guy that has them.  maybe we can convince him to do a group buy.

10-06-2002, 02:20 PM	#5
four Zilvia Addict Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Northern New Jersey Age: 41 Posts: 673 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Im prob. gona go with the AGXs.  they're on group buy right now for a total of 390 shipped to my house If you ask me, thats pretty fuckin good.  Anyway, im still deciding, because when i get the adjustables, im proly gona always keep it on stiff anyway.  But I really dont know yet.  My springs are suspension techniques 1.3 drop.  you guys think its worth it to get the adjustables? especially since its running for a good price right now.? by the way, i found the tokico blues and KYB non adj. at www.coximport.com

10-06-2002, 11:18 PM	#6
flipboi13 Zilvia Member Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 221 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I really have no idea about suspension setups.  For now tho, I wanted to upgrade to shocks/struts from stock.  I was thinking about the group buy for the GR-2 but are those bad for street setups??  I'm looking for an upgrade for my daily driven 95.  Its daily driven, but at night, i take it to secluded areas to practice drifting and other things, so any suggestions??  I guess the AGX sound worth the money, but I'm not a big fan of adjusting my suspension all the time especially if its not a HUGE improvement. But i dunno.  Thanks for any help.

10-18-2002, 06:19 PM	#9
StreetDemon240sx Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 6 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Are the AGX good with sportline springs.

10-18-2002, 08:31 PM	#11
i hate rice rockets Leaky Injector Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 86 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	ive heard alot of bad things bout the tokicos...so i suggest not getting those...but the kyb is good...im lookin into getting the kyb or the agx..but hey its ur money so u do whatever u want with it <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=''> __________________ 95 240sx Se.. soon to have an SR

10-19-2002, 10:02 PM	#12
AutoDestruct Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: The Burg, Harrisburg Posts: 437 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I had Tokico's once.  I couldn't tell that they did a damn thing.  Don't waste you money man.  My 2c

10-19-2002, 11:43 PM	#13
sheadee240 Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: CT Posts: 15 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (misnomer @ Oct. 07 2002,3:36)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Flipboi: GR2s are decent, but not really a huge improvement over factory shocks/struts. If you want an improvement, shoot for the Blues or AGX. You don't constantly need to adjust the AGX shocks, just put them on the setting you want and leavem. s14: Kind of odd that you didn't notice the suspension to be stiffer. My tokico springs and shocks made the car markedly stiffer than stock. The car doesn't roll much into the turns anymore, pitch and dive are hardly noticeable, and when I sit in it, it doesn't move <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=''> I've never ridden on Prokits, though, so I can't compare. Did any of y'all with factory front and rear sway bars notice a difference from upgrading? My car has both from the factory, and I'm reluctant to upgrade if it's not a noticeable difference. . .</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'> I have a 97 se with eibach pro-kit, KYB GR2s, suspension techniques f/r sway bars, front upper strut bar, rear upper strut bar, rear lower control arm tie bar, polyurethane T/C arm bushings, 25 millimeter hub-centric spacers, 17s with 235/40/17ZRs with a treadwear of 160, and OZ 15s with 225/45/15s kumho ecstas with a treadwear of 50 and I don't think it is underdampened at all.  It is a daily driver (my only car) and my auto-X car.  It handles like a freaken roller coaster and doesn't beat you up on the bumps, but it IS stiff! I would definately have gotten the AGXs if they were out when I did the springs, I have heard great things about them.  I heard that the Tokicos are great for a whole year if you are lucky and then they don't do sheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeit! And yes it is definitely a noticable improvement to upgrade from SE sway bars to aftermarket.  I got F/R Suspension techniques sways on special from JCWhiney for $187.43 incl. shipping (bah-gen foh me), but the rear linkage bolt was too damn long and I had to throw some of the old rotten rubber bushings in there to take up the extra space. Now I just need some LSD.....I mean VLSD __________________ '97 s14 SE with custom intake, 235/40/17s for street, 225/45/15 Kumho race tires for auto-cross, 16 inch studded snows for the winter (he he), S/T sway bars, front strut bar, Rear upper and lower stabilizer bars, Polyurethane T/C rod Bushings, H&R 25 millimeter hub centric spacers, and my favorite... eibach Pro-Kit with KYB GR2 struts.

10-20-2002, 04:06 PM	#14
Sauceboy01 Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 10 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I personally think you should go with the Tokico's. You will notice a big difference not only in performance, also in ride comfort, Which is a key factor. My opinion on the AGX are crap. AGX's aren't very good when they come to aborbing shock very well... my experience shows that. Dont get me wrong KYB's aren't that bad, but better for an All time track car, and not a Daily Driven Sport machine.  Also Tokico also offers compatible Tokico brand Springs to come with it. Go with Tokico, you'll be happier. Call my buddy he's a dealer for Tokico, Mention that i refered you (Danny) and he'll hook you up with a GREAT price. 714-641-0116!