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Old 04-02-2008, 08:17 PM   #1
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building a track

any one know a company to consult about how to build a drift/small track or materials needed to build.
help would be appreciated
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Setup information interviews with other track owners.

I am sure they have all the info you need.

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I would say you best bet is to talk to some of the owners of local tracks. They could probably get you some names and phone #'s of people they've worked with. Just a thought.
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Like he said Setup information interviews with other track owners.

I am sure they have all the info you need.

just know what you want to do how and where then you could probably get an asphalt laying company like the ones who do parking lots to do it just be sure that you get someone that knows about that then i think you should be good to go dont know about zoning laws and all that just be sure to also look into that
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If your really serious then you can consult with Noaki from Drift Day.

His email is

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Just keep in mind that if he doesn't answer you then that's probably because he gets like 50 emails a day and can't answer them all.

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Buy 1 acre or more or less of land. Pave wide open parking lot. Purchase hundreds of cones.

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how much you guys figure to build one of these...dont you need millions of $$$??
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depends how big and what kind of quality work you get done....
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fuck that. why would you build a parking lot. a thread like this pops up like 2-3 months. its way to hard but its doable. what makes it hard is having to deal with the city about noise, location and just racing shit. and the most expensive part is to lay down the asphalt b/c you want that shit smooth
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A parking lot would be fun to practice if you're a beginner, I guess. Buy a small figure 8 track?
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The obstacles to buying the land are formidable enough that anyone who needs to ask how to do it is probably never going to get remotely far into the process.
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Leveling, paving and, licensing. First cover those. Because even if it's your own property you have to get it cleared with the county first.

Aside from that. I could help you if you were serious, but I don't have any connections out in your neck of the woods.

Design a track like Ebisu. Oh yeah.
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Buy ur own island nation, fuck government bullshit. be ur own government.

Then hook up with some shipping company and cruise lines. Vacation and drift spot in one, except most drifters are too poor to take an island vacation, damn.
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Buy one on a big hill and set it up like Sekia Hills. Doesn't matter, just make it tight and technical!
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fuck leveling, all about elevation changes.
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Getting a large enough piece of land in NC will be a problem, unless you can find an old out of use general aviation airport, or even possess the liquid cash to buy one out.
Keep in mind, though, that if you can afford to fully pave one of those, you'd likely be in business with your NEXT problem, which would be neighbors. Yes, neighbors. I don't know about Fayetteville, where your IP tells me that you're from, but up here in Greensboro the local residents have bitched and moaned about noise at Piedmont Triad International Airport about the constant expansions and more recently the addition of the FedEx hub, which has been in the works for several years now. Yes, even huge ass FedEx hasn't been able to jump through all the hoops that can be created when the neighbors begin bitching about noise.
What I suggest, seriously, is to get with the owner of the dragstrip down there in Fayetteville and see how much land HE has there and if he is willing to make his facilities more of a motorsports park instead... Again, I am speaking in terms of comparison to up here in Guilford county, but the strip here is becoming more friendly to the drifters, and are about to use that to level/pave off almost all of their HUGE facility, and use that as an excuse to up the strip from 1/8 to 1/4 mile... His secret is that he has been there longer than his neighbors and owns a fuck ton of the land. I understand that you may be trying to do this yourself, but keep in mind that "know-who" is often more than "know-how" and far less painful than throwing money at the problem.
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fuck that. why would you build a parking lot. a thread like this pops up like 2-3 months. its way to hard but its doable. what makes it hard is having to deal with the city about noise, location and just racing shit. and the most expensive part is to lay down the asphalt b/c you want that shit smooth
no what makes it hard is trying to get the investors to back a 20 year old kid with a 500$ car with half a million dollars. When your business plan is to market to some of the poorest people on the planet (drifters).

the rest is a phone call away.
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no what makes it hard is trying to get the investors to back a 20 year old kid with a 500$ car with half a million dollars. When your business plan is to market to some of the poorest people on the planet (drifters).

the rest is a phone call away.
truth.

this has all been looked into before in different areas. even for those who had the funds to complete a facility, they ran into issues with zoning, licensing, approvals, etc. you have to go through government to get enviromental impact research done, licenses to operate a rack track, other crappy things that kept anyone from opening any new tracks. dont know about your neck of the woods, but thats what goes down everywhere else its been tried.
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This looks cool. Here's some info you might want to try.

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thanks for being friendly about this thread. i dont post here much do to the fact that most threads end up as a pissing contest.

i spoke to the realtor today ive set up an appointment on Monday to see some land(25+ acres, 4good price) in the cumberland county area. its been used to get fill dirt from so its likley cleared for the most part. He's going down town before monday to check zoning. ive told him what im planning for this land so he's workn with me on finding all the info out. any more ideas and info on this subject
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If you do it, props.

It will cost lots of money, and take a while to get started.

If you are going to do it, make it so the area appeals to more the drifters. aka drag strip also.
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fuck that. why would you build a parking lot. a thread like this pops up like 2-3 months. its way to hard but its doable. what makes it hard is having to deal with the city about noise, location and just racing shit. and the most expensive part is to lay down the asphalt b/c you want that shit smooth
Not to Mention Insurance, since you are hosting events where people can potentialy hurt them self
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I dont know if you really need insurance, usually they make you sign a waiver where it says if anything happens its not their fault and blah blah blah.
Mad props if you get this done, be sure I will be one of your customers .
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You are getting in over your head my friend. First of all a flat track is boring as fuck so you need some elevation changes. Second of all you need to prepare the area that you are going to pave over, you can't just slap a ton of asphalt on an un-prepared surface as it will sink over time and get lumpy. Third you need a LOT of money as it will take a LOT of asphalt to pave even a tiny track. You need to pave at the right time of year (not too hot, cold, or humid) or else you will have problems with the asphalt coming up. You need permits to operate such a facility and you will need to consult with a lawyer about liability issues. Every single event MUST have a safety crew of some sort. You need basic facilities like bathrooms. Don't forget maintenance costs as the pavement will need to be touched up pretty regularly. And before you do any of this you need to consult with a track designer. You need someone with experience doing the final design as just because it looks good on paper does not mean that it will be good to drive.
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^After that post. Close thread.


We had a guy going to build a track in the middle of nowhere about 150 miles from where I live. He had 20-25million ready to go and realized, it was not going to happen. So, now he bought a different track and is renovating/upgrading ....
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I think Insurance would be the biggest issue. Definitely look into abandoned air strips, or areas around existing ones. We recently got a new track made from someone who bought an old touch and go air strip.
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You are getting in over your head my friend. First of all a flat track is boring as fuck so you need some elevation changes. Second of all you need to prepare the area that you are going to pave over, you can't just slap a ton of asphalt on an un-prepared surface as it will sink over time and get lumpy. Third you need a LOT of money as it will take a LOT of asphalt to pave even a tiny track. You need to pave at the right time of year (not too hot, cold, or humid) or else you will have problems with the asphalt coming up. You need permits to operate such a facility and you will need to consult with a lawyer about liability issues. Every single event MUST have a safety crew of some sort. You need basic facilities like bathrooms. Don't forget maintenance costs as the pavement will need to be touched up pretty regularly. And before you do any of this you need to consult with a track designer. You need someone with experience doing the final design as just because it looks good on paper does not mean that it will be good to drive.
flat tracks can be fun for drifting, but for most other racing it would be boring after a while. other wise most info here seems right on. the realtor can only help you so much. get a lawyer working on this with you nooow!

and consider this, if you put in a 3 stall garage as part of your track you can rent that space out to a local garage to help with costs during the first year.
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we have an investor witch happens to be my partners grandparents they really want to support us in everything we do. there planing on moving to NC next summer they have two businesses they run in GA. so there going to be a big help. my partner just served two terms in iraq and just got out of the military 2 months ago. i think his family just want to make sure hes happy and wealthy now. so finacialy i think we can do it

i was planning on puting a small shop there to bring in other money while the track is closed/out of season

sry but this isnt going to be a huge track b/c i know more ppl here that want a place to drift then ppl that want to grip. so if the do grip drive then they might get a lil bored due to the size. but of course this all depends on the size of the land ill be looking at on moday
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