KTS VS STANCE Question

[Sideways~S14]

I always hear stance is the best is there any reason why????? To me all I see is one set is gold and black the other is blue and black and I tried searching with no luck :/ one thread tho of a bunch of coilovers didnt answer my question tho

[burnsauto]

stance is just a bandwagon everyone loves to be on.

Granted they are decent..but it really all depends on what you want out of them.

any info on what you'd be using them for?

[Sideways~S14]

Daily Driving And Drifting at the track everymonth

[Def]

Both are pretty "meh" in my book. You could piece together a Koni yellow setup for about the same price as either that'd blow them both away.

[az_240]

I have KTS coils and like em... I do want something a little smoother for daily driving tho... Thinking about getting some tanabes or the koni setup.

[mad-ass]

Doug doug doug....bam bam bam..

I have Stance as you know, and when you rode in my car, my front's were too low so and the pad was really really uneven everywhere. so my tires were hitting the top fender well.

SPL KTS was my other option when I was looking into Coilovers, but I jumped on the bandwagon of Stance and they turned out to be great coilovers!.

I am sure you won't be disappointed from either one of the coilovers. if you want Stance, order it from richard like I did. I understand it's a lot of money for you to be saving up at your age for big car parts such as nice set of coilovers, but don't cheap out and buy something cheap, other wise, you'll have wished that you should have gotten something you wanted instead of being cheap.

like I said, KTS Coils are great coilovers, but only difference it would be that height adjustment is little different from the two[stance has greater height adjustment ability then KTS as far as I know], and different spring rate. KTS is 8k in front and 6k in rear, and if you want different spring rates, you have to buy other rated springs from SPL. and Stance comes with 8k/6k as well, but they include 9k for front and 7k for rear in the box. they are both 15 way, and front's are monotube..so they are really similar coilovers.

Powered by MAX Coilovers are great as well! just another coilover you can think about besides KTS or Stance. all 3 are in same price range as far as I know.

[mad-ass]

Originally Posted by Def

Both are pretty "meh" in my book. You could piece together a Koni yellow setup for about the same price as either that'd blow them both away.

I would like to see this setup please. and blow them away in what category?

[Sideways~S14]

Originally Posted by mad-ass

Doug doug doug....bam bam bam..

I have Stance as you know, and when you rode in my car, my front's were too low so and the pad was really really uneven everywhere. so my tires were hitting the top fender well.

SPL KTS was my other option when I was looking into Coilovers, but I jumped on the bandwagon of Stance and they turned out to be great coilovers!.

I am sure you won't be disappointed from either one of the coilovers. if you want Stance, order it from richard like I did. I understand it's a lot of money for you to be saving up at your age for big car parts such as nice set of coilovers, but don't cheap out and buy something cheap, other wise, you'll have wished that you should have gotten something you wanted instead of being cheap.

like I said, KTS Coils are great coilovers, but only difference it would be that height adjustment is little different from the two[stance has greater height adjustment ability then KTS as far as I know], and different spring rate. KTS is 8k in front and 6k in rear, and if you want different spring rates, you have to buy other rated springs from SPL. and Stance comes with 8k/6k as well, but they include 9k for front and 7k for rear in the box. they are both 15 way, and front's are monotube..so they are really similar coilovers.

Powered by MAX Coilovers are great as well! just another coilover you can think about besides KTS or Stance. all 3 are in same price range as far as I know.

Wow Great post man you still over on the otherside of the world? I didn't realise either that the stance come with another set of springs Thanks for the info!!!!

EDIT:Just Read your sig guess you still are over there and Thank you for serving our country

[mad-ass]

Originally Posted by Sideways~S14

Wow Great post man you still over on the otherside of the world? I didn't realise either that the stance come with another set of springs Thanks for the info!!!!

EDIT:Just Read your sig guess you still are over there and Thank you for serving our country

No problem Doug! and plus, i think Stance's are more beefier then KTS in side by side comparison. it's..well, thicker as in more girth .

but if i were in your shoe's, i would get Powered by MAX. they are also great coilovers, and stiff as fuck as I know that's how you like your car.

i am digging the new s14 you picked up man, it's clean. and i might have to rape some parts off of your old s14 if you got it [i need manual ECU ]

[koolcat]

I also have stance as well, been riding on it for a while now, it seem to be pretty good. Mad-ass i want to ask you a question. Im running the gr+ pro and on 8 by 6 spring rate and it pretty rough on bumpy road, is your the same or is it just mine?

[EDacIouSX]

Originally Posted by Def

Both are pretty "meh" in my book. You could piece together a Koni yellow setup for about the same price as either that'd blow them both away.

koni yellow strut and spring combo that will beat a coilover setup?????? are you for real...



um anyway, both are good coilovers. i do not have experience with KTS though but I have s tance. I like them but of course there's better out there. I also do prefer the stances over megan streets which came on my other car.

[slos14]

Originally Posted by Def

Both are pretty "meh" in my book. You could piece together a Koni yellow setup for about the same price as either that'd blow them both away.

i had that set up on my car an now i have the kts coilovers an i miss my koni's i only wish i could go lower with the kini set up

[Sideways~S14]

Originally Posted by mad-ass

No problem Doug! and plus, i think Stance's are more beefier then KTS in side by side comparison. it's..well, thicker as in more girth .

but if i were in your shoe's, i would get Powered by MAX. they are also great coilovers, and stiff as fuck as I know that's how you like your car.

i am digging the new s14 you picked up man, it's clean. and i might have to rape some parts off of your old s14 if you got it [i need manual ECU ]

More Girth is always good!!!! Lee how did you know I like my cars o so Stiff!!!!! Thx man the new 14 has been good to be except the exhaust was rotted out enough it fell apart lol and the maf went out but its fixed now But on the old 14 Im gonna give it one last shot at selling it as a whole if that doesn't work out ill start to part it out i got people that want herra parts out of it and i might want some for myself lol

[DOOK]

it's not unheard of to build a spring/dampener setup that will outperform most out of the box coilovers, but starting with a koni yellow isn't where to start. You have to start with a rebuildable dampener that will allow you to tweak your settings... I'm not the guru to be explaining it, but it's not an easy thing to do... a lot of custom fabbing mounts and what not... why only KTS and stance if you don't mind me asking? Is it an economics thing? buck for buck, both KTS are a good coilover, but not the best out there.

[Sideways~S14]

Originally Posted by DOOK

it's not unheard of to build a spring/dampener setup that will outperform most out of the box coilovers, but starting with a koni yellow isn't where to start. You have to start with a rebuildable dampener that will allow you to tweak your settings... I'm not the guru to be explaining it, but it's not an easy thing to do... a lot of custom fabbing mounts and what not... why only KTS and stance if you don't mind me asking? Is it an economics thing? buck for buck, both KTS are a good coilover, but not the best out there.

Yup buck for buck thing pretty much and one has much prettier colors

[mad-ass]

Originally Posted by koolcat

I also have stance as well, been riding on it for a while now, it seem to be pretty good. Mad-ass i want to ask you a question. Im running the gr+ pro and on 8 by 6 spring rate and it pretty rough on bumpy road, is your the same or is it just mine?

I am running GR+. and mine is the same way. what dampening do you have yours set at? I have mine set at front 12/15 and rear is at 9/15. and that setup seems to be firm enough to be daily driven and stiff enough to be at track. and i am also just running 8k/6k setup, but i am planning on changing that out to 9k/7k when i get back. or atleast the front's to 9k's.

Originally Posted by Sideways~S14

More Girth is always good!!!! Lee how did you know I like my cars o so Stiff!!!!! Thx man the new 14 has been good to be except the exhaust was rotted out enough it fell apart lol and the maf went out but its fixed now But on the old 14 Im gonna give it one last shot at selling it as a whole if that doesn't work out ill start to part it out i got people that want herra parts out of it and i might want some for myself lol

Dude, save the manual ECU for me, please. I really need it.

Originally Posted by DOOK

why only KTS and stance if you don't mind me asking? Is it an economics thing? buck for buck, both KTS are a good coilover, but not the best out there.

He is 16 year old. still in high school. and now, don't flame him for his age, he is actually a better drifter then I am. and no street drifting talk here, track drifting. i got his back.

[mad-ass]

oh, and i had some minor problem with the collars being loosened. so i had to take a breaker bar to it and got it tighter then hell, and no more problems after that! and also, when you install them, grease up the coilover threads. because they can get filled with all kinds of things[dirt/dirt/dirt/blood/bird feather/cones and such] and it'll make your ride height adjustment very difficult. and this is for every coilovers.

[Sideways~S14]

Originally Posted by mad-ass

oh, and i had some minor problem with the collars being loosened. so i had to take a breaker bar to it and got it tighter then hell, and no more problems after that! and also, when you install them, grease up the coilover threads. because they can get filled with all kinds of things[dirt/dirt/dirt/blood/bird feather/cones and such] and it'll make your ride height adjustment very difficult. and this is for every coilovers.

Nice rebuttal Lee lol I got your back too homie and wouldnt grease attract more dirt? and bird feathers blood etc?

[mad-ass]

Originally Posted by Sideways~S14

Yup buck for buck thing pretty much and one has much prettier colors

when you speak colors, nothing comes close to this.





I am sure you remember those zip ties..ooh yes

[Sideways~S14]

Those zipties ohhhh Yesss they held up until i decided to put new ones on lol and the black car is still sittin on those zip ties!!! Zipties ftw

[mad-ass]

Originally Posted by Sideways~S14

Nice rebuttal Lee lol I got your back too homie and wouldnt grease attract more dirt? and bird feathers blood etc?

yes, but it won't dry out the coilover threads and rust it out after some driving on them. and also, if it does attrack them, you can just brush them off, it's alot easier with it lubed up then dried up and rusty. trust me man..everything is hard with out a lube after some time ;p

[Sideways~S14]

Originally Posted by mad-ass

yes, but it won't dry out the coilover threads and rust it out after some driving on them. and also, if it does attrack them, you can just brush them off, it's alot easier with it lubed up then dried up and rusty. trust me man..everything is hard with out a lube after some time ;p

Lol good point im sure i could find something to lube em up with around here

[mad-ass]

Originally Posted by Sideways~S14

Lol good point im sure i could find something to lube em up with around here

i am currently out of words to think of what kind of grease it's called..but it's not black/gray. umm..white grease...

but here is what i plan on doing when i get back. since i haven't done this to my car yet...so mine's all filthed up and rusted on the threads, thus making ear burning noise when i turn the collars.

material:
metal/stiff brush
grease
water
bicycle tire tube
zip ties

Cleaning and covering up the coilover threads.

1. Prep the car for greasing and covering. take wheels off and brush off the dirt and grime. and let it dry if you used water.

2. prep the bicycle tube. cut off the stem and cut the whole tube in "hot dog" way. so it is one piece, not in tubes.

3. apply grease on threads, loosen collars and apply grease as well. readjust the collars back in.

4. clean off the excess grease.

5. wrap the whole exposed threads with prepped bicycle tube. and tip tie it off.

shit..a whole another DIY right there. i am good.

[Sideways~S14]

Originally Posted by mad-ass

i am currently out of words to think of what kind of grease it's called..but it's not black/gray. umm..white grease...

but here is what i plan on doing when i get back. since i haven't done this to my car yet...so mine's all filthed up and rusted on the threads, thus making ear burning noise when i turn the collars.

material:
metal/stiff brush
grease
water
bicycle tire tube
zip ties

Cleaning and covering up the coilover threads.

1. Prep the car for greasing and covering. take wheels off and brush off the dirt and grime. and let it dry if you used water.

2. prep the bicycle tube. cut off the stem and cut the whole tube in "hot dog" way. so it is one piece, not in tubes.

3. apply grease on threads, loosen collars and apply grease as well. readjust the collars back in.

4. clean off the excess grease.

5. wrap the whole exposed threads with prepped bicycle tube. and tip tie it off.

shit..a whole another DIY right there. i am good.

Shit you whip em out like its nothin son!!! Good shit right therrrr

[mestizo]

I run KTS on my car and LOVE THEM! Stance is pretty much the same thing although they have been having some issue's lately, there is a thread on here about it. The other option I would prolly go with is a set of Powered By Max coils, however PBM coils are super stiff. So for a daily driver they won't be the most comfortable.

[mad-ass]

yeah, coilover not rotating at pillow joint? ooh yeah..

they'll send you new one's. or talk to richard, i think he still has bunch of them sitting around. i had to replace mine as well. and they are hella back ordered still i believe. and they've been hicking up some orders. I.E. sending a 350Z coils instead of S13 coils. this is Stance btw.

So all in all, they are all good coilovers. but i personally like my Stance's. so there you have it. so you got 3 to choose from

Stance
SPL KTS
Powered By Max[PBM]

they are all about same price, and all perform well.

[KSOYster]

I think KTS is best bang for your buck I got them for 1100 shipped I think prices went up now. If you lower the spring rates KTS wont be bad for daily driving. 2 way adjustable comes with camber. Also you can adjust the compression with those little knobs.

I never tried any other coilovers so cant say anything but ive done some HPDE and the kts turns so tight im in love with them.

but Ive been looking around at all the midrange coilovers and they all seem like the same stuff. inverted monotube design 2 way ride hieght adjustable. camber ...

edit

Also i dont know why some people call them SPL KTS. SPL parts sell KTS but KTS is not made from SPL. SPL just distributes them. The actual site for kts is www.KTS-web.com and can be ordered from them directly. there is also 2 types of kts red kind and blue kind.

[az_240]

koni's are AMAZING struts... Just depends on if you are willing to do the research and source the parts needed to make the combo comfortable and stiff at the same time...
http://www.zilvia.net/f/showthread.p...highlight=koni
There are a few threads I have read but here is one with a quick search^^


Another thing I must say about my KTS is my friend got into an accident with my car a while back...hit a big ass curb doing about 20... popped the passenger side tire up onto the curb and smashed the shit outta the rim, control arm was completely twisted as was the tie rod, sway bar end link and tension rod were also slightly jacked up...

KTS coilover? still works perfectly fine besides some slight bendadge at the very top where that bolt screws on...
My SPL outter tie rod ends were also still in good shape... +1 for SPL

[drift freaq]

Originally Posted by az_240

koni's are AMAZING struts... Just depends on if you are willing to do the research and source the parts needed to make the combo comfortable and stiff at the same time...
http://www.zilvia.net/f/showthread.p...highlight=koni
There are a few threads I have read but here is one with a quick search^^


Another thing I must say about my KTS is my friend got into an accident with my car a while back...hit a big ass curb doing about 20... popped the passenger side tire up onto the curb and smashed the shit outta the rim, control arm was completely twisted as was the tie rod, sway bar end link and tension rod were also slightly jacked up...

KTS coilover? still works perfectly fine besides some slight bendadge at the very top where that bolt screws on...
My SPL outter tie rod ends were also still in good shape... +1 for SPL

KTS are okay Stance are okay, just okay!

The fact is its true. A koni/Hypercoil or Koni/Ground control eibach setup can rule easily over both brands. There is so much info posted on here by people who have built the setups all you have to do is search. AZ is right Koni's are amazing.

KTS and Stance work great on smoother roads but they are not the end all and Koni is a superior shock manufacturer to both of those brands.

Koni has a longer history of winning automotive races and being used on higher end vehicles than either KTS or Stance for someone to say that Koni are not better or even as good is shear ignorance and that person needs to go due the research.
The only reason for someone to run KTS or Stance is they are preassembled. Otherwise if you are willing to assemble a Koni setup it will rule period!

[racepar1]

Koni/ground control FTW. The koni shocks are about 1000x better than either the stance or KTS shocks. When deciding between stance and KTS you are really choosing which one is the lesser of the two evils most likely. Of course most drivers aren't actually good enough to tell the difference other than the ride quality anyways soooo........ I vote for stance as the one between the two options you posted.