5 lug front swap

[drftns14]

ok im sure this has been covered numerous times. my computer wont let me search for some reason. but i have a 96 s14 and looking todo 5 lug swap. i have the rears covered, but im looking for opinions what todo for the fronts! thanks!!!

[FRpilot]

if you have an s14, the easiest way to do the fronts is to order oem nissan front 5lug hubs/bearing assembly. you just unbolt your 4lug hub assembly and bolt on the new 5lug hub.

plus, it will also replace your front bearings at the same time. or you can source used s14 5lug front hubs, but i would just get new ones. look to spend around 200-300 for the front hubs.

[DALAZ_68]

Originally Posted by FRpilot

if you have an s14, the easiest way to do the fronts is to order oem nissan front 5lug hubs/bearing assembly. you just unbolt your 4lug hub assembly and bolt on the new 5lug hub.

plus, it will also replace your front bearings at the same time. or you can source used s14 5lug front hubs, but i would just get new ones. look to spend around 200-300 for the front hubs.

agreed...ur in a way better position than us s13 guys

[eastcoastS14]

OEM, air compressor and impact....I tried to wrench my fronts off so hard but with a impact i zapped em off in .5 seconds

[rps13sr20det]

front is a breeze....rear is a different problem, but it seems you have that covered! did you purchase new brakes or re-drill. that is my problem right now. Im too afraid to redrill myself and screw it up

[eastcoastS14]

did u use a hub puller for your rears?

[FRpilot]

hub puller works well for the rears, but i find that sometimes they get ruined. i think scott messed up 2 of them, and one of mine got messed up after 4 uses.

joe got so frustrated and couldn't wait for mel to come back from the autostore that he pulled the rear hubs off with his bare hands.

[rps13sr20det]

so you didn't take off the knuckle and use a press?

[ATLspeed]

i hammered mine out.....(dont do that)

[justaKAiswear]

Originally Posted by FRpilot

hub puller works well for the rears, but i find that sometimes they get ruined. i think scott messed up 2 of them, and one of mine got messed up after 4 uses.

joe got so frustrated and couldn't wait for mel to come back from the autostore that he pulled the rear hubs off with his bare hands.

Hub puller worked for me too, Ive used it twice with no breaks. I can see where breaks would be prevalent though, they can be a bitch to get off! Advance Auto parts and Pep Boys have a rental tool program, so if breakage is an issue you might try usin those, I know the Advance ones are lifetime warranty tools. (used to work there)

[JRas]

what tools are needed to complete the full 5 lug swap on an S14?

- sorry op for jacking thread

[HS13KLS]

32...or 36 for the front(sorry i have a s13..)
and i believe.. its a 38for the rear..I LITTERALLY JUST DID MINE A MONTH AGO..
i think a 17mm socket
19mm.
and 21mm

just have a regular socket set. and go to autozone or whatever and get those other 2 huge socket sizes.. a jack.... and if you have an impact your life will be so much easier..like everyone said..FRONTS- 2 hours...
it took me 4-5 hours on the rear...id suggest undoing all the bolts to the knuckle..and basically hammering out the pressed in hub.. and its alot of manuvering and pulling to get the axle out..but get some pb blaster too..
you can do everything in a day easy.
its just a lot of work
oh and rotors...
and if you have the money i bought all new stainless lines. and calipers and pads and rotors..lol

[HS13KLS]

OH

and finally make sure you have anti seize...
its optional..but i use it on all my bolts..

OH YEA!!
get bearing grease for the fronts. and put it inside the hub..and pack it in there real good. same for the rears.. i mean do it well..your only going to pull your hubs off once..hopefully haha

[DALAZ_68]

Originally Posted by HS13KLS

32...or 36 for the front(sorry i have a s13..)
and i believe.. its a 38for the rear..I LITTERALLY JUST DID MINE A MONTH AGO..
i think a 17mm socket
19mm.
and 21mm

just have a regular socket set. and go to autozone or whatever and get those other 2 huge socket sizes.. a jack.... and if you have an impact your life will be so much easier..like everyone said..FRONTS- 2 hours...
it took me 4-5 hours on the rear...id suggest undoing all the bolts to the knuckle..and basically hammering out the pressed in hub.. and its alot of manuvering and pulling to get the axle out..but get some pb blaster too..
you can do everything in a day easy.
its just a lot of work
oh and rotors...
and if you have the money i bought all new stainless lines. and calipers and pads and rotors..lol

there 36mm all around...from what i remember

[rps13sr20det]

i've done searches, I can't find a good thread with picture details on doing the rear>>>>

[98s14inaz]

Originally Posted by eastcoastS14

did u use a hub puller for your rears?

If it hasn't been said, you run the risk of ruining them. Couple of blows with a hammer to the back side of the hub after the bolts have been removed work nicely.

[HS13KLS]

do you want pictures?...

i did mine like i said a month a go...

i look some pictures..i believe it would be enough to help you out...
ill post them when i get the chance..

oh
yea. if its a s13. 32mm fro fronts and 36mm for rears(both s chassis have the same rear hub bolt size)
if its an s14 i believe that other guy is right. its 36 for the front.

[HS13KLS]

loosen all the bolts.. so your suspension,( coils, ruca, toe and caster)once they are all loosened, then take all the bolts out.
also take off the brake caliper
get an impact or a lot of muscle and zip off the 36mm hub bolt.
pull the entire knuckle down. and you take off those bolts to the hub..i BELIEVE they are a 17mm. to get to them you will have to turn the axle a 1/4th turn each time..its not hard. but since that hub is pressed in there you will have to pop it out..i used a hammer..make sure you put somthign on the other side of the hub so it sits still or it will flop around when you hit it. take a screwdriver and a hammer..and go to down..on the hard usually shinny metal.. i mean..do you really need your old hubs?.lol
once they are popped out, you have to put on the new hub. slide it on. and put bearing grease in it. and get it in there well packed..
impact the hub bearing to spec..
i believe its

120-180foot pounds of torque.
but if you impact it..just impact it till it cant move. it should be enough.after that..bolt all the suspension parts back on. put on the rotors and calipers...

then its done.
oh i used a lot of pb blaster the day before..i soaked everything..it made it a lot easier.

sorry i thought i had a lot more pictures..but this was the only one that could help you

[projectRDM]

Originally Posted by DALAZ_68

there 36mm all around...from what i remember

Guys, please do not quote anything unless you're sure. Some kid is going to find this through a search and then cry because he was lied to about what tools to use.

S13 front - 30mm
S14 front - 32mm
S13/S14 rear - 36mm

[HS13KLS]

^ thank you. i was searching i could have swore it was 32 for s13s. but i guess i was wrong. haha
i hope i helped this guy..it seems pretty clear

ha thanks again for the correction!!

[shmiddy]

can i use 5 lug hubs from a s14 on my s13????????????????

[HS13KLS]

rears.
not fronts

[shmiddy]

fuck now what am i gonna do................. shit

[HS13KLS]

go order ichiba fronts haha!
but seriously..just do it right

and sell shit to get them.
they are like 255 or somthing

[Trig3r]

25?paypal?
trig3r

[eek]

Originally Posted by shmiddy

fuck now what am i gonna do................. shit

you can use the fronts if you have the s14 front knuckles. From there you will need to have a s14 ball joint pressed into your front lower control arm. And you will need to either drill out your shocks/coils to run the bigger s14 bolts or buy the spacer rings that they sell.

Don't forget when you do the 5lug swap your gonna need 5lug wheels and either some new brakes or have your rotors re-drilled to 5lug. Honestly best time to do your z32 brakes or whatever brake upgrade, is when doing your 5lug swap.

[shmiddy]

^^thanx for ur help imma noob lol

[clark]

hey, let's not forget hypertek's innovative "ghetto style" front 5-lug conversion from the DIY thread.


original post is here:
http://www.zilvia.net/f/showpost.php...50&postcount=6

[HS13KLS]

^haha i guess that works...honestly i dont think that it would make the car unsafe...although..
i just like doing it right and safe the first time haha

[clark]

yeah, if you read the thread, hypertek says he's had no problems running that way at all.