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tater · 11-18-2002, 09:37 PM

<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/hehe.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':hehe:'>  <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='

'> hay everyone your asking for more well the kit that I made is now bolt in. thats right. bolt in.  the mounts oil pan pick up  tube and headers all bolt  in with the kit Ive made. the original trans crossmember is also used. Iwill send more pics later.  the one pic took 45 min to d-load.  see I am not lying Im just little on the strange side so chat later 4.00am comes early. <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='

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*revat619* · 11-18-2002, 11:08 PM

we'll see... <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/hmmm.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':hmmm:'>

bolt on...right <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sarcasm.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':sarcasm:'>

whateverjames · 11-18-2002, 11:41 PM

where are you located, tater? i want a 302 in my car too. <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/mad.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':angry:'> can't wait to see more pictures      <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/devil.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':devil:'>

CoasTek240 · 11-19-2002, 07:47 AM

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (whateverjames @ Nov. 18 2002,01:41)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">where are you located, tater? i want a 302 in my car too. <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/mad.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':angry:'> can't wait to see more pictures <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/devil.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':devil:'></td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
more pictures.. where were the originals?

whateverjames · 11-19-2002, 12:09 PM

there was one in his other post.

i also wanna make sure this isn't some photoshop deal.  <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/laugh.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':laugh:'>

*DSC* · 11-19-2002, 12:32 PM

wow  <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/thumbs-up.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':thumbsup:'>

I'm usually against swaps like that, but the more I learn about them the cooler I think it is. <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/turn.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':turn:'>

whateverjames · 11-19-2002, 01:27 PM

i'm very interested too. i hope it's real. if so, i'll be looking for a 302 or a 350/6 speed from a 93+ camaro. and it wouldn't bother me if 155 horsepower engine owners would shun me <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='

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KiDyNomiTe · 11-19-2002, 03:14 PM

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (whateverjames @ Nov. 19 2002,2:27)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">i'm very interested too. i hope it's real. if so, i'll be looking for a 302 or a 350/6 speed from a 93+ camaro. and it wouldn't bother me if 155 horsepower engine owners would shun me <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='

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I doubt any of us would shun you, we just wouldn't let you hang out with us <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='

'> . But what am I talking for, I won like 135 (I think) I4 Camry Pride (at least it's 2K1, not living in the 90s no more, or 80s for some of you pig nosers  <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='

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DamnedButDetermined · 11-19-2002, 06:02 PM

How much more does this kind of engine weight?  That is the only thing that i see that could be really wrong with this swap!  Does anyone know what the smallest usdm V8 engine was in?  I am hopeing they made something like a 3-4L V8...That way i could make a high revving machine with the smoothest powerband <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='

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AKADriver · 11-19-2002, 06:15 PM

Buick made a 3.5L V8 in the early '60s.  They ended up selling the tooling to Rover.

It's not much of a performance motor though.  If you're concerned about weight the Ford 302 is really the way to go.  Keep in mind the 302 has a much shorter stroke than even an SR (it's only 76mm).  Its revs are limited by the valvetrain, not the piston speeds.  There's a huge aftermarket for it, too.

Dark · 11-19-2002, 06:36 PM

This website talks about swaping usdm engines in smaller cars it has the dimensions of the 302 and it's weight.

I also found out that Don Nimi weighed the Ka it came to 309 Ibs

The 302's weight varies from 424 Ibs to 519 Ibs

*DSC* · 11-19-2002, 07:16 PM

here is a link to the talk about a v8 swap on FA.  Good info <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/thumbs-up.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':thumbsup:'>

IIRC don weighed his engine w/out anything attached to it right?

Dark · 11-20-2002, 01:26 AM

Yes, Don weighed the engine w/out anything attached to it. The swap should make the front end heavier but I don't know by how much.

wa-fu · 11-20-2002, 07:33 PM

Seems like you would need a bigger radiator too.  Is the one in the photo the stock S13 radiator?  The photo makes it look like the engine and the (stock?) radiator are already pretty close.
Also, what about a Ford 289 V8?  It might weigh less.

Natty · 11-20-2002, 08:23 PM

But does the a/c work  <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='

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I don't care if it does or not, I want that.
Reminds me of that Darius guy with the 240z with a 6speed LS1, blown!
Jeff

whateverjames · 11-26-2002, 07:38 PM

i knew it was too good to be true. <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sad.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='

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BadMoJo · 11-26-2002, 09:36 PM

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (wa-fu @ Nov. 20 2002,6:33)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Also, what about a Ford 289 V8? It might weigh less.</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
The 289 block is the same family as the 302,and the 347 is just a stroked 302, so they wouldnt weight any different.

MyFirst240SX · 11-27-2002, 10:56 PM

for like 1000 dollars you can put a small Psi super charger on a 302.  that what got me, all i want out of my car is to make pretty sounds and go fast.

11-18-2002, 09:37 PM	#1
tater Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 21 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/hehe.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':hehe:'>  <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=''> hay everyone your asking for more well the kit that I made is now bolt in. thats right. bolt in.  the mounts oil pan pick up  tube and headers all bolt  in with the kit Ive made. the original trans crossmember is also used. Iwill send more pics later.  the one pic took 45 min to d-load.  see I am not lying Im just little on the strange side so chat later 4.00am comes early. <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=''>  <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=''>

11-18-2002, 11:08 PM	#2
revat619 Retired General Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: San Diego Posts: 4,672 Trader Rating: (7) Feedback Score: 7 reviews	we'll see... <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/hmmm.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':hmmm:'> bolt on...right <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sarcasm.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':sarcasm:'> __________________ www.Jspec.com www.SpeedAlliance.com www.PoweredByMax.net Instagram: @rjsladerade

11-18-2002, 11:41 PM	#3
whateverjames Nissanaholic! Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: St. Louis Age: 45 Posts: 2,263 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	where are you located, tater? i want a 302 in my car too. <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/mad.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':angry:'> can't wait to see more pictures      <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/devil.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':devil:'> __________________ 02 Blazer X - 90 240SX w/SR oh noes

11-19-2002, 12:09 PM	#5
whateverjames Nissanaholic! Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: St. Louis Age: 45 Posts: 2,263 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	there was one in his other post. i also wanna make sure this isn't some photoshop deal.  <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/laugh.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':laugh:'> __________________ 02 Blazer X - 90 240SX w/SR oh noes

11-19-2002, 12:32 PM	#6
DSC New Title Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: VA Posts: 3,454 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	wow  <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/thumbs-up.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':thumbsup:'> I'm usually against swaps like that, but the more I learn about them the cooler I think it is. <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/turn.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':turn:'> __________________

11-19-2002, 07:47 AM	#4
CoasTek240 Post Whore! Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: VA Age: 40 Posts: 3,034 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (whateverjames @ Nov. 18 2002,01:41)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">where are you located, tater? i want a 302 in my car too. <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/mad.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':angry:'> can't wait to see more pictures <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/devil.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':devil:'></td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'> more pictures.. where were the originals?

11-19-2002, 01:27 PM	#7
whateverjames Nissanaholic! Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: St. Louis Age: 45 Posts: 2,263 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	i'm very interested too. i hope it's real. if so, i'll be looking for a 302 or a 350/6 speed from a 93+ camaro. and it wouldn't bother me if 155 horsepower engine owners would shun me <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=''> __________________ 02 Blazer X - 90 240SX w/SR oh noes

11-19-2002, 03:14 PM	#8
KiDyNomiTe Post Whore! Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Chicago Age: 38 Posts: 6,296 Trader Rating: (0) Rides Gallery: KiDyNomiTe Feedback Score: 0 reviews	</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (whateverjames @ Nov. 19 2002,2:27)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">i'm very interested too. i hope it's real. if so, i'll be looking for a 302 or a 350/6 speed from a 93+ camaro. and it wouldn't bother me if 155 horsepower engine owners would shun me <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=''></td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'> I doubt any of us would shun you, we just wouldn't let you hang out with us <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=''> . But what am I talking for, I won like 135 (I think) I4 Camry Pride (at least it's 2K1, not living in the 90s no more, or 80s for some of you pig nosers  <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=''> ) __________________ PROCEED Grip Gambler

11-19-2002, 06:02 PM	#9
DamnedButDetermined Zilvia Addict Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Jax, Fl Age: 43 Posts: 637 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	How much more does this kind of engine weight?  That is the only thing that i see that could be really wrong with this swap!  Does anyone know what the smallest usdm V8 engine was in?  I am hopeing they made something like a 3-4L V8...That way i could make a high revving machine with the smoothest powerband <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=''>

11-19-2002, 06:15 PM	#10
AKADriver Post Whore! Join Date: May 2002 Location: Springfield, VA Age: 43 Posts: 3,517 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	Buick made a 3.5L V8 in the early '60s.  They ended up selling the tooling to Rover. It's not much of a performance motor though.  If you're concerned about weight the Ford 302 is really the way to go.  Keep in mind the 302 has a much shorter stroke than even an SR (it's only 76mm).  Its revs are limited by the valvetrain, not the piston speeds.  There's a huge aftermarket for it, too.

11-19-2002, 06:36 PM	#11
Dark Zilvia Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Arlington, VA Posts: 165 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	This website talks about swaping usdm engines in smaller cars it has the dimensions of the 302 and it's weight. I also found out that Don Nimi weighed the Ka it came to 309 Ibs The 302's weight varies from 424 Ibs to 519 Ibs __________________ 93 Fastback, 5spd with obx shortshifter Power is in the control of strength.

11-19-2002, 07:16 PM	#12
DSC New Title Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: VA Posts: 3,454 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	here is a link to the talk about a v8 swap on FA.  Good info <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/thumbs-up.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':thumbsup:'> IIRC don weighed his engine w/out anything attached to it right? __________________

11-20-2002, 01:26 AM	#13
Dark Zilvia Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Arlington, VA Posts: 165 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Yes, Don weighed the engine w/out anything attached to it. The swap should make the front end heavier but I don't know by how much. __________________ 93 Fastback, 5spd with obx shortshifter Power is in the control of strength.

11-20-2002, 07:33 PM	#14
wa-fu Leaky Injector Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: South Carolina Posts: 109 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Seems like you would need a bigger radiator too.  Is the one in the photo the stock S13 radiator?  The photo makes it look like the engine and the (stock?) radiator are already pretty close. Also, what about a Ford 289 V8?  It might weigh less. __________________ ...got to find the reason why my money's all gone...

11-20-2002, 08:23 PM	#15
Natty Zilvia Addict Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Nashville, TN Posts: 944 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	But does the a/c work  <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=''> I don't care if it does or not, I want that. Reminds me of that Darius guy with the 240z with a 6speed LS1, blown! Jeff __________________ 1991 White 240sx Fastback LE, rusty spoiler, weak driveshaft, exhaust rattle.... Rattles are just your cars way of saying 'I love you.'

11-26-2002, 07:38 PM	#16
whateverjames Nissanaholic! Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: St. Louis Age: 45 Posts: 2,263 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	i knew it was too good to be true. <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sad.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=''> __________________ 02 Blazer X - 90 240SX w/SR oh noes

11-26-2002, 09:36 PM	#17
BadMoJo Nissanaholic! Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: San Luis Obispo, Ca Age: 43 Posts: 1,931 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (wa-fu @ Nov. 20 2002,6:33)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Also, what about a Ford 289 V8? It might weigh less.</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'> The 289 block is the same family as the 302,and the 347 is just a stroked 302, so they wouldnt weight any different. __________________ ----Gone----

11-27-2002, 10:56 PM	#18
MyFirst240SX Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 599 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	for like 1000 dollars you can put a small Psi super charger on a 302.  that what got me, all i want out of my car is to make pretty sounds and go fast. __________________ It is better to drive a Slow car fast than to drive a fast Car slow! '89 FastBack 5spd: Intake/Exhaust,Strut Bars and JL15. '90 Parts car/Some day drag car.