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GabeS14 · 05-30-2008, 10:01 PM

Ok, to start off I just want to say that today after a long ass time, my car is running perfect, when I mean perfect I mean 350-370hp perfect!

And I have to thank Luisgonz for it. he is the magic man, he knows his shiet!

(How can we not trust out local shops anymore?)
(how can professional mechanics that fix SR's for a living let such simple mistakes go by due to pure negligence and trying to make quick big bucks)
I always thought hat you get what you pay for, so this time i wanted to do it right and decided to pay high$$$ expecting to get great results..
I got royally screwed!!!.below is my story...it is long, but please read, I know some of you have been there, and some of you will.. so read:

As some of you that know me may know I blew my first SR, about 2 years ago. I still knew very little about the motor so I took it to a shop that was recommended to me.
The shop was ran by
Terry henderson (drift buffet-land-ho etc)
and
Earnie Fixmer(team Rotora-D1-and currently works local shop)

they charged me $900 to pull the motor and tell me what was wrong with it.
eventually they called me and told me I had a blown motor, and I needed to rebuild or just get a new one.
I decided to rebuild it.
I was charged another $2800 to rebuild the motor to stock specs, but adding a headgasket and headstuds.
they promised me I would have a stong running motor that they would guarantee.
On the day I went to pick up my car, while on the phone with them they warn me that my car sounds like a subaru???
WTF???
I was like what do you mean like a subaru? did you guys fix it? they continuously argued that my tunning must be bad, thats why it wont drive well. my argument was "I have a jim wolfe) tuned ecu, it ran very strong before the blown engine, if you rebuilt the motor why wouldn't it run strong now?
so i decide to take the car and buy a Power FC to have it tuned again, wondering if the ecu went bad??or maybe they fucked somethign else up, anyways it had been a few months already and I needed a car to drive, and they promised they would look at the car again if I needed it.
...car ran like shit for almost a year..

During that time I took it to 2 shops and even had Steve shadows come to my place to look at it, but no one could find out what the issue was.
Steve actually got close, he said he knew it was Timing, but even after adjusting the timing it still ran weak.he recommended I get it tunned properly on a dyno, which i still plan on doing soon.
after buying the power fc, I took the car back to Earnie Fixmer 2 more times he played with the timing, continued saying it was my tunning, and on one occasion even tuned my power fc for me(base tune) but the car still ran weak..
I called Terry a few times, but never got answers, so eventually gave up, earnie couldnt make it work, terry was unreachable.
at this point I had gotten to know Luis(Luisgonz) from Zilvia, and he promised me he would take a look at the car.
this morning I showed up at his house early in the morning, and he got to work, checked vac lines, wiring, cleaned it all up, and then moved on to under the valve cover, where emediatley he noticed that the timing alignment marks were OFF, way off...
the timing was sooo retarded that the car could never run, there was no acceleration. I had acutally mentioned this to Earnie and Terry a few times, (about the possibility of it not being at TDC) I had read up about it.
I just want to say how most "tuners" when dealing with timing issues dont wanna get down and dirty, tryign to do the minimun possible and getting paid the max.
How can a shop that deals with SR's on a daily basis miss something like this?(this is one of the most important things to watch for when assembling the motor)
I just dont get how there could have been such negligence and disregard towards my car,,,even after having got paid big$$$$
$3800???to rebuild a motor to stock specs??? I know I got ripped off, and the worse part is they probably didnt even rebuild the motor they prob just swapped out a different one and didnt mind to make sure it ran well..
and everyone knows that with the money I paid them I could have bought a whole new motor!
To finish this off I just wanna give huge PROPS to LUISGONZ ...this man knows his shit! He charged me close to nothign to fix it,
I recommend(highly) to anyone near los angeles
Fineline tunning (his in-house business name)is the way to go

:
(also just to clear up, my comments on disregard do not apply to steve, he just was not able to find the prob at the time!)since he only had about an hour to look at the car)I will prob be hiiting him up to due the dyno tune soon!

If this is in the wrong section please move Mods,

MikeisNissan · 05-30-2008, 10:13 PM

Damn I would give you some rep but it ran out in the S13silviagirl thread. I wonder what Earnie Fixmer thought of this..

MikeisNissan · 05-30-2008, 10:15 PM

LUISGONZ is the man.

tt99ol · 05-30-2008, 10:24 PM

congratulations on getting the car running man
i bet it feels good finally
and steve will give you a badass tune to top it off
just wait til you can rail on it knowing its reliable

hustlervibes · 05-30-2008, 10:29 PM

Congrats on getting the car working! Luis does know his stuffs.

luisgonz · 05-30-2008, 11:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gabe╚╗14

this guy called Wolf45 actually tried to neg rep me on here(grey square) and called me F** for posting this...wtf?
he didnt even have the balls to post in here, but calls me a F**???

I hope you know It was Alex, He just doesnt have enough Rep to give you a green+rep,LOL I think he was playing a joke on you.hahahaha

essforteen · 05-30-2008, 11:31 PM

It helps to find an honest person to give you a helping hand good job to luis and yourself on getting it running. now you can go to the track and have some fun

woohoo!!

mRclARK1 · 05-30-2008, 11:47 PM

I have a learned distrust of shops. Some are decent, but many are just out to make quick bucks with little work and will do the MINIMUM (if even that) to try to max profits. Friends, personal contacts and connections and private deals for a few bucks or a couple beers, or whatever is fair for the work, are the way to go IMHO.

Great you got your car running strong.

azndoc · 05-30-2008, 11:55 PM

That sucks.

I have a couple of friends that started off with Ernie back in the days on Oki.

Both of them say that he's a total douchebag now days.

jspec240 · 05-30-2008, 11:57 PM

Damn man TIMING is critical... Good to hear the problems are over tho... Im gonna have to come test drive it to make sure it works

Good on ya Luis!!!

Xandy Boosts · 05-31-2008, 12:09 AM

Im gonna hit up luisgonz in the near future to weld up my blastpipes. Saw his work in the premie build threads, amazing work man

racepar1 · 05-31-2008, 12:35 AM

Most shops have their bitches actually do the work while the guys that actually know what's up collect the money. I am willing to bet that's what happened here. The minimum wage laborers, probably acquired south of the border, fucked it up and the guys in charge were total douches because it was warrantied. So typical in the automotive industry.

GabeS14 · 05-31-2008, 12:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by luisgonz

I hope you know It was Alex, He just doesnt have enough Rep to give you a green+rep,LOL I think he was playing a joke on you.hahahaha

Aha..yea just found out
lol..thx..
I was pissed!..like WTFD??hehehe
picking him up 730 am?

GabeS14 · 05-31-2008, 12:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by racepar1

Most shops have their bitches actually do the work while the guys that actually know what's up collect the money. I am willing to bet that's what happened here. The minimum wage laborers, probably acquired south of the border, fucked it up and the guys in charge were total douches because it was warrantied. So typical in the automotive industry.

I agree..but in this case, according to my conversation with Terry Henderson, shortly after him and Earnie fixmer split ways, and closed their old business, each to go to a new shop..he said Earnie had the typicall
"star drifter" attitude..
"I dont wanna go work on that peice of shit car"
since my engine bay was dirty and my first sr swap was shitty even though it was fast it was rigged..wires hanging..worn out stuff..etc..
you get the idea..
this guy works on superstar D1 cars..then has to work on my sorry ass S14..getting paid ahead of time..makes it even esier to kick to the side and slack off..
but what gets to me is the fact thgat even though i kept telling them time after time..somethign was up with my motor it was not normal..please check it out..they never did..
they allowed to leave their shop..running like shit..knowing it was not put together right..

MADE · 05-31-2008, 01:00 AM

Glad you put the info out there. Being in Socal its easy to fine a shop that will work on an SR,RB,CA etc but its hard to find one with exprience and not just milking the teet. At least its actually documented for people looking in the future about the quality of service these people performed.

blownmotor · 05-31-2008, 01:26 AM

If he is truly a technician he would work on any car regardless if it was a total mess or not. Welcome to the REAL world where not every car is setup professionally and clean and ease to work on. And the whole cam timing thing obvioisly show who ever worked onit or diagnosed it in the begining was lazy or did not look/pay attention on what he was doing. Skill, honesty and craftsmanship are getting scarce these days.

Jimmy Up · 05-31-2008, 01:33 AM

man, thats some shit brotha- thanks for the heads up and glad to hear that thanks to other people on here, you were able to get it going good.

And I think you are right, if they REBUILT the motor, there is no way in hell that it would have been that off- I have a really hard time believing otherwise. I would say count your losses, but $3800 worth is a lot of counting. It just sucks when YOU have to be the ginuea pig and everybody on here knows you wont be the last that they do this to...

Stay up man.

-Mike

j6250 · 05-31-2008, 02:18 AM

Sorry to hear you lost all that money and time but glad to hear you're car is running good. All that hp must be nice

. Have fun man but be safe

jimmytango00 · 05-31-2008, 02:29 AM

The thing with Luis is that, he was born with this gift. we are all born with God given talents, for Luis its cars. He focuses on the smallest details and he just knows his shit. I know he wont admit to it, but this isnt just a hobby for him, its his passion.

Luis is the only person i trust with my car.

GSXRJJordan · 05-31-2008, 03:42 AM

Glad to hear you got it fixed Gabe, I wouldn't have popped the valve cover if you'd have brought it over here lol. +rep for Luisgonz.

WERDdabuilder · 05-31-2008, 03:57 AM

did you ride his "horse" while you were at his house?

glad to hear everything is well now.

luisgonz · 05-31-2008, 04:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WERDdabuilder

did you ride his "horse" while you were at his house?

glad to hear everything is well now.

How do you know about maxamillion.Haha But really?

blueshark123 · 05-31-2008, 07:42 AM

ive been threw the samething wit my car congrats on having the car back to normal

jimmytango00 · 05-31-2008, 12:17 PM

Maz is like the Mexican Clifford.

That dog has drank about two gallons of anti-freeze and oil in his life time, hahah jk.

Quote:

Originally Posted by luisgonz

How do you know about maxamillion.Haha But really?

luisgonz · 05-31-2008, 10:07 PM

Well Im glad your car is back to running Condition I can tune it for you If you like. Remember I wont charge you until its good and gravy.

jimmytango00 · 05-31-2008, 11:27 PM

Gabe let him tune it! SHIT!

GabeS14 · 06-01-2008, 10:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by luisgonz

Well Im glad your car is back to running Condition I can tune it for you If you like. Remember I wont charge you until its good and gravy.

hmm..we gotta rent a dyno tho..Im'e dying to know exactley how much HP..its at.
I have the Powerfc at home, jim wolfe tunning runs fast as fuck, but i am sure the power fc will do even better
!
Thanks to all that chimed in,
It was pretty emotional for me feeling all the power back..after 2 years..
ask Alex, Luiz bro..when i went to test drive it after he adjusted the timing..and the car got so sideways in 4000rpm..first gear, i almost shit myself..
my legs were shaking when i went to get gas...lol..more of happyness/anxiety..lol... I felt like a little bitch..haha

GabeS14 · 06-01-2008, 10:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WERDdabuilder

did you ride his "horse" while you were at his house?
glad to hear everything is well now.

Ahahaha...i didn't..lol..max is cool..very chill dog.. expet for when the neighbours dogs come near the fence, he tries to chew the wooden fence..lol..he actualy ate half of the main beam of the fence.its like a 2x6" and he ate threw it..lol

singlecamslam · 06-01-2008, 11:05 AM

Thats awesome man, glad you got your car the you want to, its a good feeling. Hope shit like this doesn't happen to anyone, i never go to shops because they all look shady. Went to THE SHOP once and never going again.

**Phlip** · 06-02-2008, 08:18 AM

Gabe, I made the information presented here and in PM exchange into a review thread for you:
http://www.zilvia.net/f/showthread.php?t=195670
Anything more if I missed it, let me know.

05-30-2008, 10:01 PM	#1
GabeS14 Post Whore! Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Sin City Las Vegas Posts: 4,521 Trader Rating: (27) Rides Gallery: GabeS14 Feedback Score: 27 reviews	What has this world come to???...I got the power back! Ok, to start off I just want to say that today after a long ass time, my car is running perfect, when I mean perfect I mean 350-370hp perfect! And I have to thank Luisgonz for it. he is the magic man, he knows his shiet! (How can we not trust out local shops anymore?) (how can professional mechanics that fix SR's for a living let such simple mistakes go by due to pure negligence and trying to make quick big bucks) I always thought hat you get what you pay for, so this time i wanted to do it right and decided to pay high$$$ expecting to get great results.. I got royally screwed!!!.below is my story...it is long, but please read, I know some of you have been there, and some of you will.. so read: As some of you that know me may know I blew my first SR, about 2 years ago. I still knew very little about the motor so I took it to a shop that was recommended to me. The shop was ran by Terry henderson (drift buffet-land-ho etc) and Earnie Fixmer(team Rotora-D1-and currently works local shop) they charged me $900 to pull the motor and tell me what was wrong with it. eventually they called me and told me I had a blown motor, and I needed to rebuild or just get a new one. I decided to rebuild it. I was charged another $2800 to rebuild the motor to stock specs, but adding a headgasket and headstuds. they promised me I would have a stong running motor that they would guarantee. On the day I went to pick up my car, while on the phone with them they warn me that my car sounds like a subaru??? WTF??? I was like what do you mean like a subaru? did you guys fix it? they continuously argued that my tunning must be bad, thats why it wont drive well. my argument was "I have a jim wolfe) tuned ecu, it ran very strong before the blown engine, if you rebuilt the motor why wouldn't it run strong now? so i decide to take the car and buy a Power FC to have it tuned again, wondering if the ecu went bad??or maybe they fucked somethign else up, anyways it had been a few months already and I needed a car to drive, and they promised they would look at the car again if I needed it. ...car ran like shit for almost a year.. During that time I took it to 2 shops and even had Steve shadows come to my place to look at it, but no one could find out what the issue was. Steve actually got close, he said he knew it was Timing, but even after adjusting the timing it still ran weak.he recommended I get it tunned properly on a dyno, which i still plan on doing soon. after buying the power fc, I took the car back to Earnie Fixmer 2 more times he played with the timing, continued saying it was my tunning, and on one occasion even tuned my power fc for me(base tune) but the car still ran weak.. I called Terry a few times, but never got answers, so eventually gave up, earnie couldnt make it work, terry was unreachable. at this point I had gotten to know Luis(Luisgonz) from Zilvia, and he promised me he would take a look at the car. this morning I showed up at his house early in the morning, and he got to work, checked vac lines, wiring, cleaned it all up, and then moved on to under the valve cover, where emediatley he noticed that the timing alignment marks were OFF, way off... the timing was sooo retarded that the car could never run, there was no acceleration. I had acutally mentioned this to Earnie and Terry a few times, (about the possibility of it not being at TDC) I had read up about it. I just want to say how most "tuners" when dealing with timing issues dont wanna get down and dirty, tryign to do the minimun possible and getting paid the max. How can a shop that deals with SR's on a daily basis miss something like this?(this is one of the most important things to watch for when assembling the motor) I just dont get how there could have been such negligence and disregard towards my car,,,even after having got paid big$$$$ $3800???to rebuild a motor to stock specs??? I know I got ripped off, and the worse part is they probably didnt even rebuild the motor they prob just swapped out a different one and didnt mind to make sure it ran well.. and everyone knows that with the money I paid them I could have bought a whole new motor! To finish this off I just wanna give huge PROPS to LUISGONZ ...this man knows his shit! He charged me close to nothign to fix it, I recommend(highly) to anyone near los angeles Fineline tunning (his in-house business name)is the way to go : (also just to clear up, my comments on disregard do not apply to steve, he just was not able to find the prob at the time!)since he only had about an hour to look at the car)I will prob be hiiting him up to due the dyno tune soon! If this is in the wrong section please move Mods, __________________ E92 M3 19" wheels for sale///JWT Cams and Springs +30whp for sale... cheap.

05-30-2008, 10:13 PM	#2
MikeisNissan Post Whore! Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Earth, Section 301 Posts: 3,732 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	Damn I would give you some rep but it ran out in the S13silviagirl thread. I wonder what Earnie Fixmer thought of this.. __________________ 因果関係の流れ

05-30-2008, 10:15 PM	#3
MikeisNissan Post Whore! Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Earth, Section 301 Posts: 3,732 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	LUISGONZ is the man. __________________ 因果関係の流れ

05-30-2008, 10:24 PM	#4
tt99ol Zilvia Addict Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: quartz hill CA Age: 38 Posts: 644 Trader Rating: (8) Feedback Score: 8 reviews	congratulations on getting the car running man i bet it feels good finally and steve will give you a badass tune to top it off just wait til you can rail on it knowing its reliable __________________ Need automotive work done in the antelope valley? Ask me how i can help.

05-30-2008, 11:47 PM	#8
mRclARK1 Post Whore! Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Location? Posts: 4,205 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I have a learned distrust of shops. Some are decent, but many are just out to make quick bucks with little work and will do the MINIMUM (if even that) to try to max profits. Friends, personal contacts and connections and private deals for a few bucks or a couple beers, or whatever is fair for the work, are the way to go IMHO. Great you got your car running strong. __________________

05-30-2008, 10:29 PM	#5
hustlervibes Banned from the Marketplace Join Date: May 2006 Location: Southern California Rep Power: ∞ Age: 36 Posts: 2,453 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Congrats on getting the car working! Luis does know his stuffs.

05-30-2008, 11:31 PM	#7
essforteen Nissanaholic! Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: LAX Area (So CAL) Posts: 1,802 Trader Rating: (50) Rides Gallery: essforteen Feedback Score: 50 reviews	It helps to find an honest person to give you a helping hand good job to luis and yourself on getting it running. now you can go to the track and have some fun woohoo!!

05-30-2008, 11:55 PM	#9
azndoc Post Whore! Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Los Angeles Age: 43 Posts: 9,487 Trader Rating: (47) Rides Gallery: azndoc Feedback Score: 47 reviews	That sucks. I have a couple of friends that started off with Ernie back in the days on Oki. Both of them say that he's a total douchebag now days.

05-30-2008, 11:57 PM	#10
jspec240 Nissanaholic! Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: SIN CAL Age: 43 Posts: 2,096 Trader Rating: (19) Rides Gallery: jspec240 Feedback Score: 19 reviews	Damn man TIMING is critical... Good to hear the problems are over tho... Im gonna have to come test drive it to make sure it works Good on ya Luis!!! __________________ DREW SLIDE TO SIDE WORLD WIDE Feedback!! http://www.zilvia.net/f/showthread.php?t=182673 661 sliders Gymkhana @ buttonwillow http://zilvia.net/f/south-western-st...-sessions.html >> Bakersfield Hook up thread <<

05-31-2008, 12:09 AM	#11
Xandy Boosts Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Long beach Age: 39 Posts: 1,003 Trader Rating: (2) Feedback Score: 2 reviews	Im gonna hit up luisgonz in the near future to weld up my blastpipes. Saw his work in the premie build threads, amazing work man __________________ it's a RUCKUS life

05-31-2008, 12:35 AM	#12
racepar1 Post Whore! Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Simi Valley, CA Age: 42 Posts: 9,006 Trader Rating: (106) Rides Gallery: racepar1 Feedback Score: 106 reviews	Most shops have their bitches actually do the work while the guys that actually know what's up collect the money. I am willing to bet that's what happened here. The minimum wage laborers, probably acquired south of the border, fucked it up and the guys in charge were total douches because it was warrantied. So typical in the automotive industry.

05-31-2008, 01:00 AM	#15
MADE Zilvia Addict Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Norf Norf Posts: 974 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	Glad you put the info out there. Being in Socal its easy to fine a shop that will work on an SR,RB,CA etc but its hard to find one with exprience and not just milking the teet. At least its actually documented for people looking in the future about the quality of service these people performed. __________________

05-31-2008, 01:26 AM	#16
blownmotor Zilvia Junkie Join Date: May 2006 Location: land of the sideshows Posts: 402 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	If he is truly a technician he would work on any car regardless if it was a total mess or not. Welcome to the REAL world where not every car is setup professionally and clean and ease to work on. And the whole cam timing thing obvioisly show who ever worked onit or diagnosed it in the begining was lazy or did not look/pay attention on what he was doing. Skill, honesty and craftsmanship are getting scarce these days.

05-31-2008, 01:33 AM	#17
Jimmy Up Zilvia.net GB Vendor Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: SoCal {covina} Age: 36 Posts: 4,038 Trader Rating: (52) Rides Gallery: Jimmy Up Feedback Score: 52 reviews	man, thats some shit brotha- thanks for the heads up and glad to hear that thanks to other people on here, you were able to get it going good. And I think you are right, if they REBUILT the motor, there is no way in hell that it would have been that off- I have a really hard time believing otherwise. I would say count your losses, but $3800 worth is a lot of counting. It just sucks when YOU have to be the ginuea pig and everybody on here knows you wont be the last that they do this to... Stay up man. -Mike __________________ WWW.JIMMYUP.COM

05-31-2008, 02:18 AM	#18
j6250 Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 398 Trader Rating: (5) Feedback Score: 5 reviews	Sorry to hear you lost all that money and time but glad to hear you're car is running good. All that hp must be nice . Have fun man but be safe __________________ Canvas killer

05-31-2008, 02:29 AM	#19
jimmytango00 Users Awaiting Email Confirmation Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Los Angeles, CA Age: 40 Posts: 2,246 Trader Rating: (14) Feedback Score: 14 reviews	The thing with Luis is that, he was born with this gift. we are all born with God given talents, for Luis its cars. He focuses on the smallest details and he just knows his shit. I know he wont admit to it, but this isnt just a hobby for him, its his passion. Luis is the only person i trust with my car.

05-31-2008, 03:42 AM	#20
GSXRJJordan Post Whore! Join Date: May 2006 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 9,135 Trader Rating: (19) Rides Gallery: GSXRJJordan Feedback Score: 19 reviews	Glad to hear you got it fixed Gabe, I wouldn't have popped the valve cover if you'd have brought it over here lol. +rep for Luisgonz. __________________ Jordan Innovations has a new web site! www.JordanInnovations.com -- All your favorite FD Pro Drifters love it, trust me -- www.JordanInnovations.com

05-31-2008, 03:57 AM	#21
WERDdabuilder Post Whore! Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: cali Posts: 3,727 Trader Rating: (17) Feedback Score: 17 reviews	did you ride his "horse" while you were at his house? glad to hear everything is well now.

05-31-2008, 07:42 AM	#23
blueshark123 Post Whore! Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: North Jersey Posts: 5,481 Trader Rating: (55) Feedback Score: 55 reviews	ive been threw the samething wit my car congrats on having the car back to normal

05-31-2008, 10:07 PM	#25
luisgonz BANNED Join Date: May 2004 Location: los angeles Age: 42 Posts: 2,761 Trader Rating: (6) Feedback Score: 6 reviews	Well Im glad your car is back to running Condition I can tune it for you If you like. Remember I wont charge you until its good and gravy.

05-31-2008, 11:27 PM	#26
jimmytango00 Users Awaiting Email Confirmation Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Los Angeles, CA Age: 40 Posts: 2,246 Trader Rating: (14) Feedback Score: 14 reviews	Gabe let him tune it! SHIT!

06-01-2008, 11:05 AM	#29
singlecamslam Post Whore! Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Norcal Posts: 2,534 Trader Rating: (10) Feedback Score: 10 reviews	Thats awesome man, glad you got your car the you want to, its a good feeling. Hope shit like this doesn't happen to anyone, i never go to shops because they all look shady. Went to THE SHOP once and never going again. __________________ Nothing says racecar like a stock car with no interior.

06-02-2008, 08:18 AM	#30
Phlip Yes, I look like that Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: In my supervillain's lair Posts: 27,980 Trader Rating: (19) Rides Gallery: Phlip Feedback Score: 19 reviews	Gabe, I made the information presented here and in PM exchange into a review thread for you: http://www.zilvia.net/f/showthread.php?t=195670 Anything more if I missed it, let me know. __________________ Weirdo And I write too!