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DisEpyon · 06-19-2008, 01:26 AM

When i turn the key in the ignition on position and then turn the key back off and pull it out, i still have power. My windows still work and the red warning lights on my gauge cluster will not shut off (such as the open door, oil light, e-brake). the only way for me to shut the power off completely is to turn my car on (start the motor) then turn it off.

Ive printed out the starting system wiring diagram in the fsm and retraced my wiring and it looks fine.

Any help would be appreciated.

thanks, brent

*downshift_sideways* · 06-19-2008, 01:28 AM

Are you running a turbo timer?

or even a car alarm that somewhat has the same feature?

DisEpyon · 06-19-2008, 01:36 AM

i had my apexi turbo timer hooked up awhile back and it still did the same thing. i am in the process of reorganizing my harness. i am almost done, i just wanted to test to see if everything still worked. really want to solve this problem.

*downshift_sideways* · 06-19-2008, 01:38 AM

Try checking all the wires under your steering column.

Was the problem AFTER you installed the apexi timer?

A few buddies of mine had the same problem. (They found out the a butt connector on the 12v constant ignition wire was shorting out)

DisEpyon · 06-19-2008, 01:44 AM

thanks, ill retrace the wiring from the turbo timer tomorrow and see if anything comes up.

It used to not do this when i bought the car and when i first installed the turbo timer, i guess after awhile it started to do this.

DisEpyon · 06-19-2008, 01:35 PM

got done tracing the wires for the turbo timer, and everything looks good. looked through the ecu plug to see if any wires needed to be fix and nothing. the ignition wires for the key cylinder look good.

the only thing i can think of is the cylinder it self. are these things known for having problems like this? how would i replace it. it uses some kind of wierd bolt that holds it in.

DisEpyon · 06-19-2008, 01:48 PM

I am guessing this is what i need, a new ignition switch.

http://www.autopartswarehouse.com/mm...tch~parts.html

what do you guys think.

xsparc · 06-19-2008, 01:57 PM

maybe, mine did the same thing like 4 years ago. turned out to be 2 wires rubed through the insulation

DisEpyon · 06-19-2008, 03:05 PM

Sweet monkey dick bitch!!!!

Solved the problem!!!

After doing some searching, i came across this thread, You guys are welcome

http://forums.nicoclub.com/zerothread?id=339939

after reading that, i narrowed my possibilities of it being (relay, ground, ignition switch) I first searched my grounds and everything looked right, then i went off to the relays and found that the brown relay behind the fuse block wasnt working correctly, so i swapped it out with the other brown relay to test, and what do you know my shit works. now all i have to do is find a relay at a store like this one and i am golden.

RedtopTech · 06-19-2008, 08:56 PM

call your local nissan dealer with the part number on the casing. They'll probably have it in stock.

*downshift_sideways* · 06-19-2008, 09:16 PM

woot. glad you fixed it.

steal that relay from a junkyard

DisEpyon · 06-20-2008, 01:43 PM

ok to clear things up once again.

do not want anyone reading this and getting the wrong info about my problem, incase others have similar.

Ok So apparently my problem was still happening. The brown relays did not solve my issue. After reading the other thread i found a million times, i went back out and researched everything. Once again everything looked fine. I went out and bought a brand new ignition switch and a bunch of those brown relays (more than i needed, the more the better

). I swapped those out and i was still having the same problem. The new ignition switch did not help at all. So my last amature wiring skills knowledge was to mess with that small blue relay next to the brown relay on the bracket of the giant main plug harnesses. What do you know, my car works with no problems at all. everything works fine now. not really sure what that relay has anything to do with, but apparently from reading that other thread, it is important (i do not feel like looking it up in the fsm, lazy and tired, hehe). The guy that posted in there did the same thing and works. all i did was unplug it, hit it a few times and pluged it back in.

pics.

relays i snatched from the pull a part junk yard.

now i dont know what to do with these things, i guess keep them, hehe.

the small blue relay i was talking about.

my original switch in brown and the new one in black. (the previous owner had an alarm installed on this car and that is why the 3 of the wires are soldered like that).

time to return this sucker, and get my 41 bucks back.

now i can get back to finishing up my harnesses knowing that everything works now and no more problems

06-19-2008, 01:26 AM	#1
DisEpyon Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: ? Posts: 574 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Power wont shut off? When i turn the key in the ignition on position and then turn the key back off and pull it out, i still have power. My windows still work and the red warning lights on my gauge cluster will not shut off (such as the open door, oil light, e-brake). the only way for me to shut the power off completely is to turn my car on (start the motor) then turn it off. Ive printed out the starting system wiring diagram in the fsm and retraced my wiring and it looks fine. Any help would be appreciated. thanks, brent

06-19-2008, 01:28 AM	#2
downshift_sideways No Limit Soldier. Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Hayward CA, San Gabriel CA Age: 38 Posts: 5,550 Trader Rating: (0) Rides Gallery: downshift_sideways Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Are you running a turbo timer? or even a car alarm that somewhat has the same feature? __________________ allntrlundrgrnd: "you never really appreciate your parents fridge until you look into your own and its full of condiments only"

06-19-2008, 01:38 AM	#4
downshift_sideways No Limit Soldier. Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Hayward CA, San Gabriel CA Age: 38 Posts: 5,550 Trader Rating: (0) Rides Gallery: downshift_sideways Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Try checking all the wires under your steering column. Was the problem AFTER you installed the apexi timer? A few buddies of mine had the same problem. (They found out the a butt connector on the 12v constant ignition wire was shorting out) __________________ allntrlundrgrnd: "you never really appreciate your parents fridge until you look into your own and its full of condiments only"

06-19-2008, 01:57 PM	#8
xsparc Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: san diego area - esco Posts: 461 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	maybe, mine did the same thing like 4 years ago. turned out to be 2 wires rubed through the insulation __________________ No... no one stole my interior... its safely in my garage...

06-19-2008, 09:16 PM	#11
downshift_sideways No Limit Soldier. Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Hayward CA, San Gabriel CA Age: 38 Posts: 5,550 Trader Rating: (0) Rides Gallery: downshift_sideways Feedback Score: 0 reviews	woot. glad you fixed it. steal that relay from a junkyard __________________ allntrlundrgrnd: "you never really appreciate your parents fridge until you look into your own and its full of condiments only"

06-19-2008, 01:36 AM	#3
DisEpyon Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: ? Posts: 574 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	i had my apexi turbo timer hooked up awhile back and it still did the same thing. i am in the process of reorganizing my harness. i am almost done, i just wanted to test to see if everything still worked. really want to solve this problem.

06-19-2008, 01:44 AM	#5
DisEpyon Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: ? Posts: 574 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	thanks, ill retrace the wiring from the turbo timer tomorrow and see if anything comes up. It used to not do this when i bought the car and when i first installed the turbo timer, i guess after awhile it started to do this.

06-19-2008, 01:35 PM	#6
DisEpyon Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: ? Posts: 574 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	got done tracing the wires for the turbo timer, and everything looks good. looked through the ecu plug to see if any wires needed to be fix and nothing. the ignition wires for the key cylinder look good. the only thing i can think of is the cylinder it self. are these things known for having problems like this? how would i replace it. it uses some kind of wierd bolt that holds it in.

06-19-2008, 01:48 PM	#7
DisEpyon Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: ? Posts: 574 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I am guessing this is what i need, a new ignition switch. http://www.autopartswarehouse.com/mm...tch~parts.html what do you guys think.

06-19-2008, 03:05 PM	#9
DisEpyon Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: ? Posts: 574 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Sweet monkey dick bitch!!!! Solved the problem!!! After doing some searching, i came across this thread, You guys are welcome http://forums.nicoclub.com/zerothread?id=339939 after reading that, i narrowed my possibilities of it being (relay, ground, ignition switch) I first searched my grounds and everything looked right, then i went off to the relays and found that the brown relay behind the fuse block wasnt working correctly, so i swapped it out with the other brown relay to test, and what do you know my shit works. now all i have to do is find a relay at a store like this one and i am golden.

06-19-2008, 08:56 PM	#10
RedtopTech Zilvia Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Virginia Beach, VA Age: 40 Posts: 293 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	call your local nissan dealer with the part number on the casing. They'll probably have it in stock.

06-20-2008, 01:43 PM	#12
DisEpyon Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: ? Posts: 574 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	ok to clear things up once again. do not want anyone reading this and getting the wrong info about my problem, incase others have similar. Ok So apparently my problem was still happening. The brown relays did not solve my issue. After reading the other thread i found a million times, i went back out and researched everything. Once again everything looked fine. I went out and bought a brand new ignition switch and a bunch of those brown relays (more than i needed, the more the better ). I swapped those out and i was still having the same problem. The new ignition switch did not help at all. So my last amature wiring skills knowledge was to mess with that small blue relay next to the brown relay on the bracket of the giant main plug harnesses. What do you know, my car works with no problems at all. everything works fine now. not really sure what that relay has anything to do with, but apparently from reading that other thread, it is important (i do not feel like looking it up in the fsm, lazy and tired, hehe). The guy that posted in there did the same thing and works. all i did was unplug it, hit it a few times and pluged it back in. pics. relays i snatched from the pull a part junk yard. now i dont know what to do with these things, i guess keep them, hehe. the small blue relay i was talking about. my original switch in brown and the new one in black. (the previous owner had an alarm installed on this car and that is why the 3 of the wires are soldered like that). time to return this sucker, and get my 41 bucks back. now i can get back to finishing up my harnesses knowing that everything works now and no more problems