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12-07-2001, 11:07 AM

So i used to have no problem chirping my tires in the 1-2 shift but all of a sudden it just bogs down! Ya think I toasted my clutch? I always double clutch and heel toe ('cept when I'm trying to chirp) and I'm using higher octane gas but still no go. Any ideas? The clutch seems fine in every other way and i'm running stock HP.
HELP!!!

MingMing · 12-07-2001, 11:19 AM

it actually BOGS?
hhmm if u felt better performance, i'd say that becuz ur tires got bald u got more traction and less chirping.. but if it feels slower that can't be it...
when u double clutch, do u mean for UPSHIFTING or downshifting?
cuz ur not supposed to double clutch for upshifting.. that mite burn ur clutch faster than normal

kustom · 12-07-2001, 03:56 PM

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Quote: from MingMing on 11:19 am on Dec. 7, 2001
it actually BOGS?
hhmm if u felt better performance, i'd say that becuz ur tires got bald u got more traction and less chirping.. but if it feels slower that can't be it...
when u double clutch, do u mean for UPSHIFTING or downshifting?
cuz ur not supposed to double clutch for upshifting.. that mite burn ur clutch faster than normal</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>

i dbl clutch on the upshift w/ engine rpm at upper gear rpm to try and reduce the shock to the gear train. I actually got new tires and it still chirped; although i guess that the new tires COULD  have more traction broken in than my old baldies....

MingMing · 12-07-2001, 06:24 PM

well.. bald tires always get more tractin (until u run out of rubber).. the treads are only there to displace the water so u wont be gliding into the center divider when it rains...

i still dont see why u doubleclutch for upshift thou... does ur rpm actually drop below the rpm ur higher gear would need for ur current speed?
heh i'm only asking cuz i drive an auto, and when i drive my friends manuals i only get this slight lurching w/o doubleclutch from 1-2, all the other gears i just depress the clutch and it's fine

vancouvers14 · 12-07-2001, 06:34 PM

there's no need to dbl clutch up.  in fact, i've never heard of dbl clutching <i>up</i>

kustom · 12-07-2001, 06:54 PM

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Quote: from vancouvers14 on 6:34 pm on Dec. 7, 2001
there's no need to dbl clutch up. in fact, i've never heard of dbl clutching <i>up</i></td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>

maybe you're right, just seemed to   make sense that i could control the pilot shaft rpm better that way; but any opinions on the lurch?

*transient* · 12-07-2001, 07:34 PM

just gotta know the car and figure out how much gas to give it. I used to get that, and I still do every once in a while. Then again, I basically pop the clutch every time I shift, but as long as u give it the right amount of gas you shouldn't have any problem.

MingMing · 12-07-2001, 07:50 PM

the lurch when u UPshift is cuz ur engine's still going too fast for that gear i believe... hhmm haha when i get a stick i'll be able to tell you
but yea, just slowly release the cluthc, it'll cause ur clutch to wear slightly more but hey, that's what clutches are for

12-07-2001, 11:07 AM	#1
Guest Posts: n/a	So i used to have no problem chirping my tires in the 1-2 shift but all of a sudden it just bogs down! Ya think I toasted my clutch? I always double clutch and heel toe ('cept when I'm trying to chirp) and I'm using higher octane gas but still no go. Any ideas? The clutch seems fine in every other way and i'm running stock HP. HELP!!!

12-07-2001, 11:19 AM	#2
MingMing Zilvia Member Join Date: Sep 2001 Posts: 174 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	it actually BOGS? hhmm if u felt better performance, i'd say that becuz ur tires got bald u got more traction and less chirping.. but if it feels slower that can't be it... when u double clutch, do u mean for UPSHIFTING or downshifting? cuz ur not supposed to double clutch for upshifting.. that mite burn ur clutch faster than normal

12-07-2001, 03:56 PM	#3
kustom Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 22 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Quote: from MingMing on 11:19 am on Dec. 7, 2001 it actually BOGS? hhmm if u felt better performance, i'd say that becuz ur tires got bald u got more traction and less chirping.. but if it feels slower that can't be it... when u double clutch, do u mean for UPSHIFTING or downshifting? cuz ur not supposed to double clutch for upshifting.. that mite burn ur clutch faster than normal</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'> i dbl clutch on the upshift w/ engine rpm at upper gear rpm to try and reduce the shock to the gear train. I actually got new tires and it still chirped; although i guess that the new tires COULD  have more traction broken in than my old baldies....

12-07-2001, 06:24 PM	#4
MingMing Zilvia Member Join Date: Sep 2001 Posts: 174 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	well.. bald tires always get more tractin (until u run out of rubber).. the treads are only there to displace the water so u wont be gliding into the center divider when it rains... i still dont see why u doubleclutch for upshift thou... does ur rpm actually drop below the rpm ur higher gear would need for ur current speed? heh i'm only asking cuz i drive an auto, and when i drive my friends manuals i only get this slight lurching w/o doubleclutch from 1-2, all the other gears i just depress the clutch and it's fine

12-07-2001, 06:34 PM	#5
vancouvers14 Zilvia Addict Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 868 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	there's no need to dbl clutch up.  in fact, i've never heard of dbl clutching <i>up</i>

12-07-2001, 06:54 PM	#6
kustom Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 22 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Quote: from vancouvers14 on 6:34 pm on Dec. 7, 2001 there's no need to dbl clutch up. in fact, i've never heard of dbl clutching <i>up</i></td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'> maybe you're right, just seemed to   make sense that i could control the pilot shaft rpm better that way; but any opinions on the lurch?

12-07-2001, 07:34 PM	#7
transient Premium Member Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Los Angeles, California Age: 41 Posts: 2,947 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	just gotta know the car and figure out how much gas to give it. I used to get that, and I still do every once in a while. Then again, I basically pop the clutch every time I shift, but as long as u give it the right amount of gas you shouldn't have any problem.

12-07-2001, 07:50 PM	#8
MingMing Zilvia Member Join Date: Sep 2001 Posts: 174 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	the lurch when u UPshift is cuz ur engine's still going too fast for that gear i believe... hhmm haha when i get a stick i'll be able to tell you but yea, just slowly release the cluthc, it'll cause ur clutch to wear slightly more but hey, that's what clutches are for