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240S15DETE6K · 11-30-2001, 08:41 AM

I've posted some detailed pictures of my motor here
http://www.imagestation.com/album/?id=4292221219
if anyones interested.
Will be installing soon, still making the wiring harness!

burgy240 · 11-30-2001, 08:59 AM

*sniff sniff*  that's the most beautiful *sniff*  four banger I've ever seen.  Why can't I have one?

onebadm5 · 11-30-2001, 09:09 AM

u crazy ass mofo! cool, i likes. but what are u gonna do about the VVTC? and heard about gear teeth snapping in the 6spd?

whateverjames · 11-30-2001, 09:24 AM

i'll trade you for a worn transmission and a SOHC motor??   VVTC should be alright as long has he doesn't go insane on the horsepower, and as long as you don't miss shifts, the 6 speed should work just fine...so i think.

BlankFlip · 11-30-2001, 10:27 AM

i like the vvtc. it's already 250hp stock, n i don't need a monster neway so i would never need to worry about modding my car so much that it would be a factor. ####, 250hp is all i'd need. how much u get the s15 sr for by the way?

240S15DETE6K · 11-30-2001, 11:51 AM

Well, about the tranny, I've been researching the problems.  I may send the gear set out the be cyro treated to make them more durable.  I'm in the process of determining if that will solve the problem or not.  And what about the VVT are you asking, how I'm gonna actuate it, or about the durability.  I'm going to activate it with one of the outputs from the Haltech, and about the durability, well, we'll see.  This is a street car, I race a RX-7 with SCCA to get my tracktime kicks.  I think the valvetrain will prove to be just fine for a daily driver, but I am shooting for 300whp.  But I've been looking into this too.  I'll let you know if I perform any of the mods I've been hearing about.  
I got the motor pretty cheap, but that was with no wiring or computer.  Unless you're very handy, get your motors from a reputable place like unstable or heavythrottle, that way you get some guarantee and tech support.  Don't make the mistake I did and get it from a shady individual.  
OK guys, I'll accept my endorcement kickback by check or paypal.  he he
 

Strider · 11-30-2001, 04:09 PM

okay...i've got 3 questions that may seem stupid but please just bare with me. Still trying to learn stuff.

1.) what is the wire harness. what does it do?
2.) what is the VVT? what does it do?
3.) what problems do people have with the 6 speed?

thanks a lot guys. Sorry if im' asking stupid questions but i really dont know what that stuff is. heh

thanks
Strider

jay · 11-30-2001, 04:52 PM

Well I don't know exactly what the wiring harness does but to answer your other two questions:
VVT is variable valve timing - just like the v-tec that the honda boys have.
The problem with the 6-speed is that the gears are thinner than in the 5-speed in order for them all to fit  into the housing and since they are thinner they are prone to breaking; especially with the way someone with a S15 motor or car would drive that thing. <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=';)'> Hope this helps some.

vancouvers14 · 11-30-2001, 06:35 PM

i dont see a problem with the six speed unless you are building a monster.  for everyday driving, it is not a problem

jay · 11-30-2001, 08:34 PM

240S15DETE6K, if you don't mind me asking where did you get your motor from? I know there was one for sale on Ebay about a week or two ago, is this the one? Just curous.

streetpower · 11-30-2001, 09:11 PM

Yea I have to say that Ive seen a few s15's in my life and that one is very well kept up, the df cover is nice I like the sr20det logo <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':)'>...if you dont mind revealing your source Id also like to know where you got it, I know the one on ebay was from austin but the pictures I got it didnt look that clean...

240S15DETE6K · 11-30-2001, 10:03 PM

I bought the motor back in July, from a guy in Maryland.  It's been sitting in my basement waiting for me to get everything needed for the swap.  Doing a stand-alone computer makes it a lot more complicated than having the OEM ECU and just plugging it in.  But it should pay off in tunability later.  The original spark plug galley cover was damaged in shipping, that's why I had to make the new one.  I decided to get a little creative by making it out of metal mesh and doing the logos (plus it'll allow the coils to cool, Hitman in Aus. has overheated his).    

240S15DETE6K · 11-30-2001, 10:13 PM

About the wiring harness...  Look into the engine bay.  All of the wires that you see are part of the wiring harness.  Every wire that goes to the motor is a part of the engine wiring harness.  All of the inputs (temp senders, O2 sensor, cam angle sensor, throttle position sensor, pressure senders, MAP sensor, etc.) and outputs (coil triggers, injector signals, VVT signal, etc) from the computer are interconnected thru this harness and the associated connectors and plugs.  It is all of this that I am having to rebuild, since the original one was so hacked up.  For little extra $, I got a universal harness for the Haltech computer, but I am having to adapt it to the DET motor.  It's really quite simple, but I'm sorta treading new waters, so some of my questions have been hard to find answers for.  Hope this helps.  I may be doing the swap in a few days.

*DSC* · 11-30-2001, 10:18 PM

Thats awsome man! Your one of the few ppl on this forum with an sr20det, and I think your the only one with an s15 sr20det. Thats soo sweet! How many miles are on it? What are your future plans for the engine/car? And what are you putting it in, s13 or s14? You said you race with SCAA do you do solo 1 or 2? Man, I envy you! 2 cars, racing, s15 engine....ahhh

IceTekGuy · 11-30-2001, 10:37 PM

YES, that is a BEATIFUL engine, i  am still having my swap worked on and its an S14 not S15 but i must say yours is in gorgeous condition... mine is not too bad, nothing a lil brake cleaner(universal BEST** degreaser)
wont help on my part...  <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=';)'> but hey, good luck with the wiring, my mechanic has been working on my wiring for the last MONTH, and he is still NOT done...
<img src="http://www.icetekdesigns.com/webdesign/blah/engine.jpg">

240S15DETE6K · 12-01-2001, 01:40 PM

Thanks a lot for the comments.
I ocassionally do SOLO I, but I'm mainly doing roadracing, you know, on racetracks door-to-door.  The car is in ITS class.  It'll be a shame that my daily driven street car will be so much faster than my RX-7 racecar.  240's aren't too competitive in ITS, at least not in my region.  
I might consider selling the S15 actually, if anyones interested contact me.  I like the idea of the RB25, but I need to look into it more because I really like the SR20 that I've got!  And its like brand new too.  So I don't know.

jay · 12-01-2001, 08:33 PM

I don't know dude, you already have a SR and might I remind you it is a S15!!! SR!!! I mean c'mon you have a bad ass motor already and if I am not mistaken the RB motors weigh hella more than the SR motors do. I would just stick with the SR because it seems as though you have a good plan with the stand alone engine management etc. I bet you can run all kinds of boost on that thing when you are done building it. Please keep us posted on what you decide and what the final engine is capable of and maybe some pointers and how-to's. Good luck!

(Edited by jay at 8:34 pm on Dec. 1, 2001)

DragonReborn214 · 12-02-2001, 11:56 PM

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Quote: from 240S15DETE6K on 1:40 pm on Dec. 1, 2001
Thanks a lot for the comments.
I ocassionally do SOLO I, but I'm mainly doing roadracing, you know, on racetracks door-to-door. The car is in ITS class. It'll be a shame that my daily driven street car will be so much faster than my RX-7 racecar. 240's aren't too competitive in ITS, at least not in my region.
I might consider selling the S15 actually, if anyones interested contact me. I like the idea of the RB25, but I need to look into it more because I really like the SR20 that I've got! And its like brand new too. So I don't know.
</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>

How much?

Grumpy · 12-03-2001, 12:02 PM

I am doing the RB25 into my S13 right now.  It looks like it is going to be around $8000.00 for everything.  

Car should be done by end of Jan.  I am also redoing the whole car thats why it is taking so long.  The car will be at the shop for the guys coming out to the meet.

Any questions cantact me or the shop.

Grumpy

11-30-2001, 08:41 AM	#1
240S15DETE6K Leaky Injector Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 95 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I've posted some detailed pictures of my motor here http://www.imagestation.com/album/?id=4292221219 if anyones interested. Will be installing soon, still making the wiring harness!

11-30-2001, 08:59 AM	#2
burgy240 Nissanaholic! Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Tampa Age: 49 Posts: 2,151 Trader Rating: (2) Feedback Score: 2 reviews	sniff sniff  that's the most beautiful sniff  four banger I've ever seen.  Why can't I have one?

11-30-2001, 09:09 AM	#3
onebadm5 BANNED Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 678 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	u crazy ass mofo! cool, i likes. but what are u gonna do about the VVTC? and heard about gear teeth snapping in the 6spd?

11-30-2001, 09:24 AM	#4
whateverjames Nissanaholic! Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: St. Louis Age: 45 Posts: 2,263 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	i'll trade you for a worn transmission and a SOHC motor??   VVTC should be alright as long has he doesn't go insane on the horsepower, and as long as you don't miss shifts, the 6 speed should work just fine...so i think.

11-30-2001, 10:27 AM	#5
BlankFlip Nissanaholic! Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: The Future Posts: 1,627 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	i like the vvtc. it's already 250hp stock, n i don't need a monster neway so i would never need to worry about modding my car so much that it would be a factor. ####, 250hp is all i'd need. how much u get the s15 sr for by the way?

11-30-2001, 11:51 AM	#6
240S15DETE6K Leaky Injector Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 95 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Well, about the tranny, I've been researching the problems.  I may send the gear set out the be cyro treated to make them more durable.  I'm in the process of determining if that will solve the problem or not.  And what about the VVT are you asking, how I'm gonna actuate it, or about the durability.  I'm going to activate it with one of the outputs from the Haltech, and about the durability, well, we'll see.  This is a street car, I race a RX-7 with SCCA to get my tracktime kicks.  I think the valvetrain will prove to be just fine for a daily driver, but I am shooting for 300whp.  But I've been looking into this too.  I'll let you know if I perform any of the mods I've been hearing about.   I got the motor pretty cheap, but that was with no wiring or computer.  Unless you're very handy, get your motors from a reputable place like unstable or heavythrottle, that way you get some guarantee and tech support.  Don't make the mistake I did and get it from a shady individual.   OK guys, I'll accept my endorcement kickback by check or paypal.  he he

11-30-2001, 04:09 PM	#7
Strider Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: SoCal, Corona Posts: 461 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	okay...i've got 3 questions that may seem stupid but please just bare with me. Still trying to learn stuff. 1.) what is the wire harness. what does it do? 2.) what is the VVT? what does it do? 3.) what problems do people have with the 6 speed? thanks a lot guys. Sorry if im' asking stupid questions but i really dont know what that stuff is. heh thanks Strider

11-30-2001, 04:52 PM	#8
jay Zilvia Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 205 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Well I don't know exactly what the wiring harness does but to answer your other two questions: VVT is variable valve timing - just like the v-tec that the honda boys have. The problem with the 6-speed is that the gears are thinner than in the 5-speed in order for them all to fit  into the housing and since they are thinner they are prone to breaking; especially with the way someone with a S15 motor or car would drive that thing. <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=';)'> Hope this helps some.

11-30-2001, 06:35 PM	#9
vancouvers14 Zilvia Addict Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 868 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	i dont see a problem with the six speed unless you are building a monster.  for everyday driving, it is not a problem

11-30-2001, 08:34 PM	#10
jay Zilvia Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 205 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	240S15DETE6K, if you don't mind me asking where did you get your motor from? I know there was one for sale on Ebay about a week or two ago, is this the one? Just curous.

11-30-2001, 09:11 PM	#11
streetpower Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 47 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Yea I have to say that Ive seen a few s15's in my life and that one is very well kept up, the df cover is nice I like the sr20det logo <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':)'>...if you dont mind revealing your source Id also like to know where you got it, I know the one on ebay was from austin but the pictures I got it didnt look that clean...

11-30-2001, 10:03 PM	#12
240S15DETE6K Leaky Injector Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 95 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I bought the motor back in July, from a guy in Maryland.  It's been sitting in my basement waiting for me to get everything needed for the swap.  Doing a stand-alone computer makes it a lot more complicated than having the OEM ECU and just plugging it in.  But it should pay off in tunability later.  The original spark plug galley cover was damaged in shipping, that's why I had to make the new one.  I decided to get a little creative by making it out of metal mesh and doing the logos (plus it'll allow the coils to cool, Hitman in Aus. has overheated his).

11-30-2001, 10:13 PM	#13
240S15DETE6K Leaky Injector Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 95 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	About the wiring harness...  Look into the engine bay.  All of the wires that you see are part of the wiring harness.  Every wire that goes to the motor is a part of the engine wiring harness.  All of the inputs (temp senders, O2 sensor, cam angle sensor, throttle position sensor, pressure senders, MAP sensor, etc.) and outputs (coil triggers, injector signals, VVT signal, etc) from the computer are interconnected thru this harness and the associated connectors and plugs.  It is all of this that I am having to rebuild, since the original one was so hacked up.  For little extra $, I got a universal harness for the Haltech computer, but I am having to adapt it to the DET motor.  It's really quite simple, but I'm sorta treading new waters, so some of my questions have been hard to find answers for.  Hope this helps.  I may be doing the swap in a few days.

11-30-2001, 10:18 PM	#14
DSC New Title Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: VA Posts: 3,454 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Thats awsome man! Your one of the few ppl on this forum with an sr20det, and I think your the only one with an s15 sr20det. Thats soo sweet! How many miles are on it? What are your future plans for the engine/car? And what are you putting it in, s13 or s14? You said you race with SCAA do you do solo 1 or 2? Man, I envy you! 2 cars, racing, s15 engine....ahhh

11-30-2001, 10:37 PM	#15
IceTekGuy Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Sep 2001 Posts: 362 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	YES, that is a BEATIFUL engine, i  am still having my swap worked on and its an S14 not S15 but i must say yours is in gorgeous condition... mine is not too bad, nothing a lil brake cleaner(universal BEST** degreaser) wont help on my part...  <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=';)'> but hey, good luck with the wiring, my mechanic has been working on my wiring for the last MONTH, and he is still NOT done... <img src="http://www.icetekdesigns.com/webdesign/blah/engine.jpg">

12-01-2001, 01:40 PM	#16
240S15DETE6K Leaky Injector Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 95 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Thanks a lot for the comments. I ocassionally do SOLO I, but I'm mainly doing roadracing, you know, on racetracks door-to-door.  The car is in ITS class.  It'll be a shame that my daily driven street car will be so much faster than my RX-7 racecar.  240's aren't too competitive in ITS, at least not in my region.   I might consider selling the S15 actually, if anyones interested contact me.  I like the idea of the RB25, but I need to look into it more because I really like the SR20 that I've got!  And its like brand new too.  So I don't know.

12-01-2001, 08:33 PM	#17
jay Zilvia Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 205 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I don't know dude, you already have a SR and might I remind you it is a S15!!! SR!!! I mean c'mon you have a bad ass motor already and if I am not mistaken the RB motors weigh hella more than the SR motors do. I would just stick with the SR because it seems as though you have a good plan with the stand alone engine management etc. I bet you can run all kinds of boost on that thing when you are done building it. Please keep us posted on what you decide and what the final engine is capable of and maybe some pointers and how-to's. Good luck! (Edited by jay at 8:34 pm on Dec. 1, 2001)

12-02-2001, 11:56 PM	#18
DragonReborn214 Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: SoCal Age: 45 Posts: 462 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Quote: from 240S15DETE6K on 1:40 pm on Dec. 1, 2001 Thanks a lot for the comments. I ocassionally do SOLO I, but I'm mainly doing roadracing, you know, on racetracks door-to-door. The car is in ITS class. It'll be a shame that my daily driven street car will be so much faster than my RX-7 racecar. 240's aren't too competitive in ITS, at least not in my region. I might consider selling the S15 actually, if anyones interested contact me. I like the idea of the RB25, but I need to look into it more because I really like the SR20 that I've got! And its like brand new too. So I don't know. </td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'> How much?

12-03-2001, 12:02 PM	#19
Grumpy Zilvia Member Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 167 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I am doing the RB25 into my S13 right now.  It looks like it is going to be around $8000.00 for everything.   Car should be done by end of Jan.  I am also redoing the whole car thats why it is taking so long.  The car will be at the shop for the guys coming out to the meet. Any questions cantact me or the shop. Grumpy