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Jim96SC2 · 01-23-2003, 06:33 PM

Feel free to add.

1) Front clips would have been much easier

2) If you order in early winter you will learn patience cause you don't want to swap in cold weather.

3) Parts add up very quickly

4) SCC is full of ****.

5) The only way to do an SR swap for under 3,000 is to get a front clip and do almost nothing to the engine.

6) You will breath a sigh of relief when you find that it still has the stock clutch (and another one if it's in good condition).

7) Your "want" list increases exponentially vs time you spend looking around.

8) Friends who help you with jacks, engine lifts, etc aer worth their weight in gold.

*HaLo* · 01-23-2003, 06:39 PM

9) It's funny how it never costs what you plan

10) You will breath a sigh of relief when the engine cranks and works properly

11) You will be impatient all winter if your car is stored

silnv · 01-23-2003, 06:42 PM

12. Its hard to stop smiling when you hear the BOV for the first time.

*AceInHole* · 01-23-2003, 07:51 PM

13) That turbo KA would have been soo much cheaper

(blaah... sorry. it had to be done. i'll stop now.)

*HaLo* · 01-23-2003, 08:52 PM

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Originally posted by AceInHole
13) That turbo KA would have been soo much cheaper (blaah... sorry. it had to be done. i'll stop now.)

hahaha! Maybe so, then again, I know I'm pretty reliable at 16 psi on a T28...

Don't get me wrong, I love a KA-T, but my milage was way too high.

*HaLo* · 01-23-2003, 08:53 PM

14) Nobody wants the used KA24DE you pulled out of the engine bay.

15) If something can go wrong, it *will* go wrong.

goodjuan · 01-23-2003, 08:56 PM

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Originally posted by Jim96SC2
Feel free to add.

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4) SCC is full of ****.

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What are they full of **** about? I'm wondering so I can know what information to avoid.

Chicken Magnet · 01-23-2003, 09:22 PM

16) This thread came into existence.

17) If it would've came with and SR20DET already, we wouldn't have to go through all this trouble.

18) If Greddy would pull their heads out of their @$$, we have their turbo as an option, which would be a direct bolt on and legal in California.

19) There would be a small cult of people who will post a similar post to this with the thread, "Things I learned (or am learning) while KA swapping.."

*AceInHole* · 01-23-2003, 10:06 PM

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Originally posted by Chicken Magnet
18) If Greddy would pull their heads out of their @$$, we have their turbo as an option, which would be a direct bolt on and legal in California.

Uhh.... what's the difference between the KA with say an FMax turbo which "bolts on" just as much as the Greddy does... which is just as illegal in CA as the SR is??

I said I wasn't gonna say any more about the KA-T (don't wanna make this a flame/ pissing contest) so I'll stick to it.... not counting this i guess

*Jeff240sx* · 01-23-2003, 10:12 PM

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Originally posted by AceInHole
Uhh.... what's the difference between the KA with say an FMax turbo which "bolts on" just as much as the Greddy does... which is just as illegal in CA as the SR is??

The GReddy turbo kit is supposed to be 50-state legal with a C.A.R.B. exemption number. Emissions testing is supposed to be their holdup now.
On the bright side, someone a while ago was supposed to be driving with the GReddy prototype in their s14.
-Jeff

kazuo · 01-23-2003, 10:16 PM

I as well, would like to know precisely what part of that article was BS (besides the cost, which only became even more BS because they printed that article).

As of right now I haven't encountered any incorrect info in there about the swap, and I've ben using their article as reference here and there.

Quote:

Originally posted by goodjuan
What are they full of **** about? I'm wondering so I can know what information to avoid.

Steeles · 01-23-2003, 10:30 PM

just the price which really did soar after their article. all the tech info in there is pretty damn spot on. we followed it in my swap and everything. and the clip cost is the main thing.. unless your an importer or a friend of one you'll be VERY hard pressed to find clips at the price they paid. (plus they didnt pay for shipping to the east coast

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*AceInHole* · 01-23-2003, 10:40 PM

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Originally posted by Jeff240sx
The GReddy turbo kit is supposed to be 50-state legal with a C.A.R.B. exemption number. Emissions testing is supposed to be their holdup now.
On the bright side, someone a while ago was supposed to be driving with the GReddy prototype in their s14.
-Jeff

I know the Greddy kit will be legal if it ever comes out... just saying that the FMax is just as bolt-in as the Greddy, and that the FMax is also only as illegal as the SR swap, if not "less illegal".

hooter · 01-23-2003, 10:58 PM

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Originally posted by kazuo
I as well, would like to know precisely what part of that article was BS (besides the cost, which only became even more BS because they printed that article).

As of right now I haven't encountered any incorrect info in there about the swap, and I've ben using their article as reference here and there.

I got my front clip from the same place Dave Coleman got his from except a couple months earlier. I got mine at the same price. It was the regular retail price at the time. That's what they were going for at the time which was one of the reasons why i wanted to do the SR swap in the first place. I could have picked up a silvia front for $500 at the same time but I couldn't scrounge up the money just then. When I had the money in hand, the article had come out and venus was selling everything for much more.

What's wack is those wack offset wheels Dave Coleman is running. He should have just waited and gotten some real wheels.

-Charlie

91blk240 · 01-24-2003, 12:02 AM

(20) Get ready to answer a billion questions from non 240 owners if you are the only sr in town :/

HippoSleek · 01-24-2003, 07:07 AM

21) there is always just a little bit more oil in the tranny.

22) hands like a circus monkey are required for about 27% of all routing.

23) avoid pressurized fuel lines

24) don't trust anyone around the air conditioning condenser - freon clouds aren't cool

AKADriver · 01-24-2003, 07:38 AM

Correction: Freon clouds are EXTREMELY cool

HippoSleek · 01-24-2003, 07:58 AM

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Originally posted by AKADriver
Correction: Freon clouds are EXTREMELY cool

...and the bad pun would have worked if it weren't for you meddling kids...
[/shakes fist]

Steeles · 01-24-2003, 12:42 PM

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Originally posted by 91blk240
(20) Get ready to answer a billion questions from non 240 owners if you are the only sr in town :/

here here!! geez I started telling people no its not an SR. lets see what I learned

25) label every vacum line while it s still in the clip

26)Front mount kits are ENGINE specific, not chassis specific

27) check the glove box for intresting JDM trash

28) it'll never be done soon enough

29) Dont try to replace the fuel pump witha full tank. its mess and gets you high.

30) getting to the gas tank in S14s requires a contorionist with a weight lifters arms. (that cap is a bizzitch to get off and on.

31) your friends helping you install will call your cell phone and leave messages that consist of "phsssst!" untill its up and running

X-Iceman · 01-24-2003, 02:14 PM

I have nothin to relpy, but god damn this is a good post.

Jim96SC2 · 01-24-2003, 02:20 PM

32) You family won't want to be in the same room as you cause your always ranting about your car.

33) Mothers/wifes/significant others don't like parts piled knee high in the bedroom.

34) No matter how many other motors you've swapped, there will always be something that you will end up saying "HUH?!" about.

As for SCC. the article was good, but the prices were very off.

01-23-2003, 06:33 PM	#1
Jim96SC2 Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Long Island, NY Age: 43 Posts: 405 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Things I learned (or am learning) while SR swapping.. Feel free to add. 1) Front clips would have been much easier 2) If you order in early winter you will learn patience cause you don't want to swap in cold weather. 3) Parts add up very quickly 4) SCC is full of ****. 5) The only way to do an SR swap for under 3,000 is to get a front clip and do almost nothing to the engine. 6) You will breath a sigh of relief when you find that it still has the stock clutch (and another one if it's in good condition). 7) Your "want" list increases exponentially vs time you spend looking around. 8) Friends who help you with jacks, engine lifts, etc aer worth their weight in gold. __________________ Swap DONE: 40K Redtop, Greddy Turbo extension, Greddy DP, Greddy V-SPL FMIC, Greddy Hotpipe, HKS SSQV, Koyo Radiator, Toda Ultralight FW, Spec Stage 2 Clutch, ATS 2-way Diff., Rice-Boy Red Air Filter.

01-23-2003, 06:39 PM	#2
HaLo from Canada, eh! Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Montreal, Quebec Age: 46 Posts: 5,201 Trader Rating: (0) Rides Gallery: HaLo Feedback Score: 0 reviews	9) It's funny how it never costs what you plan 10) You will breath a sigh of relief when the engine cranks and works properly 11) You will be impatient all winter if your car is stored __________________ -> HaLo Race Car: '98 E36 BMW M3 Daily Drivers: '23 Audi Q4 e-tron & '13 VW Touareg SOLD: 01 GPW Honda S2000 PARTED: 93 Pearl White 240SX LE Fastback w/SR20DET SOLD: 93 Super White 240SX SE Convertible w/Silvia Front

01-23-2003, 06:42 PM	#3
silnv Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Marietta, OH Age: 43 Posts: 1,094 Trader Rating: (39) Feedback Score: 39 reviews	12. Its hard to stop smiling when you hear the BOV for the first time. __________________ 1997 Nissan 240sx 1991 Nissan 240sx hatch

01-23-2003, 07:51 PM	#4
AceInHole Autox Technician Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: New Haven, CT Age: 44 Posts: 3,961 Trader Rating: (0) Rides Gallery: AceInHole Feedback Score: 0 reviews	13) That turbo KA would have been soo much cheaper (blaah... sorry. it had to be done. i'll stop now.) __________________

01-23-2003, 08:53 PM	#6
HaLo from Canada, eh! Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Montreal, Quebec Age: 46 Posts: 5,201 Trader Rating: (0) Rides Gallery: HaLo Feedback Score: 0 reviews	14) Nobody wants the used KA24DE you pulled out of the engine bay. 15) If something can go wrong, it will go wrong. __________________ -> HaLo Race Car: '98 E36 BMW M3 Daily Drivers: '23 Audi Q4 e-tron & '13 VW Touareg SOLD: 01 GPW Honda S2000 PARTED: 93 Pearl White 240SX LE Fastback w/SR20DET SOLD: 93 Super White 240SX SE Convertible w/Silvia Front

01-23-2003, 09:22 PM	#8
Chicken Magnet Zilvia Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Modesto, Ca Age: 48 Posts: 176 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	16) This thread came into existence. 17) If it would've came with and SR20DET already, we wouldn't have to go through all this trouble. 18) If Greddy would pull their heads out of their @$$, we have their turbo as an option, which would be a direct bolt on and legal in California. 19) There would be a small cult of people who will post a similar post to this with the thread, "Things I learned (or am learning) while KA swapping.." __________________ '98 240SX Apex-i Dual N1 exhaust, Injen CAI, 17"OZ Racing Nova Wheels, Tein S-Tech Springs and KYB AGX Struts

01-23-2003, 10:30 PM	#12
Steeles Post Whore! Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: 7th layer of hell, special pit of anger Age: 48 Posts: 3,785 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	just the price which really did soar after their article. all the tech info in there is pretty damn spot on. we followed it in my swap and everything. and the clip cost is the main thing.. unless your an importer or a friend of one you'll be VERY hard pressed to find clips at the price they paid. (plus they didnt pay for shipping to the east coast ) __________________ Keeping it Godzira bishes. So I murdered another turbo

01-24-2003, 12:02 AM	#15
91blk240 Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: DeFuniak Springs, FL Age: 47 Posts: 326 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	(20) Get ready to answer a billion questions from non 240 owners if you are the only sr in town :/ __________________ RIP: 91 Black Coupe - Lost in Katrina Current: 93 Black Coupe blown s13 blacktop

01-24-2003, 07:07 AM	#16
HippoSleek Nissanaholic! Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: elsewhere Posts: 2,081 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	21) there is always just a little bit more oil in the tranny. 22) hands like a circus monkey are required for about 27% of all routing. 23) avoid pressurized fuel lines 24) don't trust anyone around the air conditioning condenser - freon clouds aren't cool

01-24-2003, 07:38 AM	#17
AKADriver Post Whore! Join Date: May 2002 Location: Springfield, VA Age: 43 Posts: 3,517 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	Correction: Freon clouds are EXTREMELY cool

01-24-2003, 02:14 PM	#20
X-Iceman Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: New Mexico Age: 39 Posts: 403 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I have nothin to relpy, but god damn this is a good post.

01-24-2003, 02:20 PM	#21
Jim96SC2 Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Long Island, NY Age: 43 Posts: 405 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	32) You family won't want to be in the same room as you cause your always ranting about your car. 33) Mothers/wifes/significant others don't like parts piled knee high in the bedroom. 34) No matter how many other motors you've swapped, there will always be something that you will end up saying "HUH?!" about. As for SCC. the article was good, but the prices were very off. __________________ Swap DONE: 40K Redtop, Greddy Turbo extension, Greddy DP, Greddy V-SPL FMIC, Greddy Hotpipe, HKS SSQV, Koyo Radiator, Toda Ultralight FW, Spec Stage 2 Clutch, ATS 2-way Diff., Rice-Boy Red Air Filter.