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four · 02-10-2003, 08:18 PM

planning on getting 225/50/16

rims are 16x7 4x114.3 +40 offset

my suspension is KYB AGX w/ sus tech springs on a s14.

that setup will be okay with those tires right?

adey · 02-10-2003, 08:58 PM

you may rub your springs/agxs with the tire since it will be bulged a little bit, but you'll more likely than not be fine.

four · 02-10-2003, 09:28 PM

so shuld i get 215s insteaad?

*HaLo* · 02-10-2003, 09:55 PM

With 16x7.5 +40 offset wheels and 225/50ZR16 tires I barely clear the springs... and when I say barely, I can't pass a finger.

piratepete420 · 02-10-2003, 11:13 PM

On an s13, there's about 8 mm (guesstimate) of clearance in the front with 225/45r17 on 17x7's. As apposed to 215's the sidewall will be more stretched on the 225's, meaning it'll be stiffer, and allow for better turn in response, right?

AKADriver · 02-10-2003, 11:57 PM

baaaaaaaah... A 225/50 won't be 'bulged' on a 16x7. It's fine.

As for tire clearance with a 225/50 on a +40 wheel, I'm curious myself. But, it looks like it'll fit (just guesstimating based on my current huge baloony 205/60-15 setup with the stock +42? steelies). I think i've got 10mm on the inside to spare. I hope.

240fluke · 02-11-2003, 12:35 AM

http://toy4two.home.mindspring.com/offset.html

Tim '95 SE

adey · 02-11-2003, 02:52 AM

Judging by HaLos clearance (or lack thereof) I would venture to say that your chances of clearing are slim. Go 215/50/16.
Also, a 225 tire will bulge a little (depending on the tire) on a 7" wide wheel. "proper" width for a 225 tire is 7.5". It will fit, however, without problem.

AKADriver · 02-11-2003, 08:56 AM

215/50 is kinda short, I'd just suck up and go 205/55 if I was going to do that.

Look up the specs on any 225/50-16 tire. They use 7" as the measured rim width.

In fact, speaking of tire specs...
Let's look at a tire that comes in a buttload of sizes... say, the Yoko AVS ES100.
In 225/50-16 on a 16x7" rim its section width is listed as 8.9".
In 205/60-15 on a 15x6" rim its section width is listed as 8.2".

So the 225/50-16 will be 0.7" wider, requiring an extra 0.35" (9mm) on the inside than my current tire setup.

I think it should fit. It'll be tight.

All the more reason to get low-offset wheels

four · 02-11-2003, 09:07 AM

now i dont know what to get

adey · 02-11-2003, 09:22 AM

heh... you should go get some of that lovin' that your avatar is offering you!

I think your main problem is the WHEELS. If you can sell them (for more than you paid) to some accord owner and buy some nicer LOWER OFFSET wheels (and then hookup with the hot sales chick that sold you the new wheels), that would be ideal.

*HaLo* · 02-11-2003, 09:32 AM

Hum... Doesn't the S14 have more clearance then the S13? I just stated my case without noticing that he has a S14...

four · 02-11-2003, 09:33 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by adey
heh... you should go get some of that lovin' that your avatar is offering you!
I think your main problem is the WHEELS. If you can sell them (for more than you paid) to some accord owner and buy some nicer LOWER OFFSET wheels (and then hookup with the hot sales chick that sold you the new wheels), that would be ideal.

Only in a perfect world.

adey · 02-11-2003, 09:37 AM

Good point, HaLo... I didn't notice that either. I don't know if backspacing is the same as S13s, but I know that you can fit at least a 1/2" wider wheel/tire on an S14 than you can on S13... my guess is that backspacing is similar, though... but with even more room back there, a +40 wheel will just look worse (more sunken in... although some people like that look...)

If you want to be safe: go with 215.
If you're willing to take a little bit of a risk: go 225.

If you're buying a **** tire, go 225. If you're buying a nice sticky tire, go 215 (you reallllly wouldn't want to rub on a nice expensive sticky tire, whereas cheapos are disposable... to an extent.)

four · 02-11-2003, 10:03 AM

yep, i guess im going 215s

thanks guys

02-10-2003, 08:18 PM	#1
four Zilvia Addict Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Northern New Jersey Age: 41 Posts: 673 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	before i buy tires, just wanna confirm with everyone planning on getting 225/50/16 rims are 16x7 4x114.3 +40 offset my suspension is KYB AGX w/ sus tech springs on a s14. that setup will be okay with those tires right?

02-10-2003, 08:58 PM	#2
adey Post Whore! Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Hong Kong Posts: 3,072 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	you may rub your springs/agxs with the tire since it will be bulged a little bit, but you'll more likely than not be fine. __________________ Instagram: @SX180HKG

02-10-2003, 09:55 PM	#4
HaLo from Canada, eh! Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Montreal, Quebec Age: 46 Posts: 5,201 Trader Rating: (0) Rides Gallery: HaLo Feedback Score: 0 reviews	With 16x7.5 +40 offset wheels and 225/50ZR16 tires I barely clear the springs... and when I say barely, I can't pass a finger. __________________ -> HaLo Race Car: '98 E36 BMW M3 Daily Drivers: '23 Audi Q4 e-tron & '13 VW Touareg SOLD: 01 GPW Honda S2000 PARTED: 93 Pearl White 240SX LE Fastback w/SR20DET SOLD: 93 Super White 240SX SE Convertible w/Silvia Front

02-11-2003, 02:52 AM	#8
adey Post Whore! Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Hong Kong Posts: 3,072 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Judging by HaLos clearance (or lack thereof) I would venture to say that your chances of clearing are slim. Go 215/50/16. Also, a 225 tire will bulge a little (depending on the tire) on a 7" wide wheel. "proper" width for a 225 tire is 7.5". It will fit, however, without problem. __________________ Instagram: @SX180HKG

02-11-2003, 08:56 AM	#9
AKADriver Post Whore! Join Date: May 2002 Location: Springfield, VA Age: 43 Posts: 3,517 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	215/50 is kinda short, I'd just suck up and go 205/55 if I was going to do that. Look up the specs on any 225/50-16 tire. They use 7" as the measured rim width. In fact, speaking of tire specs... Let's look at a tire that comes in a buttload of sizes... say, the Yoko AVS ES100. In 225/50-16 on a 16x7" rim its section width is listed as 8.9". In 205/60-15 on a 15x6" rim its section width is listed as 8.2". So the 225/50-16 will be 0.7" wider, requiring an extra 0.35" (9mm) on the inside than my current tire setup. I think it should fit. It'll be tight. All the more reason to get low-offset wheels Last edited by AKADriver; 02-11-2003 at 09:08 AM..

02-10-2003, 09:28 PM	#3
four Zilvia Addict Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Northern New Jersey Age: 41 Posts: 673 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	so shuld i get 215s insteaad?

02-10-2003, 11:13 PM	#5
piratepete420 Leaky Injector Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 69 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	On an s13, there's about 8 mm (guesstimate) of clearance in the front with 225/45r17 on 17x7's. As apposed to 215's the sidewall will be more stretched on the 225's, meaning it'll be stiffer, and allow for better turn in response, right?

02-10-2003, 11:57 PM	#6
AKADriver Post Whore! Join Date: May 2002 Location: Springfield, VA Age: 43 Posts: 3,517 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	baaaaaaaah... A 225/50 won't be 'bulged' on a 16x7. It's fine. As for tire clearance with a 225/50 on a +40 wheel, I'm curious myself. But, it looks like it'll fit (just guesstimating based on my current huge baloony 205/60-15 setup with the stock +42? steelies). I think i've got 10mm on the inside to spare. I hope.

02-11-2003, 12:35 AM	#7
240fluke Zilvia Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: San Ramon, CA Age: 45 Posts: 185 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	http://toy4two.home.mindspring.com/offset.html Tim '95 SE

02-11-2003, 09:07 AM	#10
four Zilvia Addict Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Northern New Jersey Age: 41 Posts: 673 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	now i dont know what to get

02-11-2003, 09:22 AM	#11
adey Post Whore! Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Hong Kong Posts: 3,072 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	heh... you should go get some of that lovin' that your avatar is offering you! I think your main problem is the WHEELS. If you can sell them (for more than you paid) to some accord owner and buy some nicer LOWER OFFSET wheels (and then hookup with the hot sales chick that sold you the new wheels), that would be ideal. __________________ Instagram: @SX180HKG

02-11-2003, 09:32 AM	#12
HaLo from Canada, eh! Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Montreal, Quebec Age: 46 Posts: 5,201 Trader Rating: (0) Rides Gallery: HaLo Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Hum... Doesn't the S14 have more clearance then the S13? I just stated my case without noticing that he has a S14... __________________ -> HaLo Race Car: '98 E36 BMW M3 Daily Drivers: '23 Audi Q4 e-tron & '13 VW Touareg SOLD: 01 GPW Honda S2000 PARTED: 93 Pearl White 240SX LE Fastback w/SR20DET SOLD: 93 Super White 240SX SE Convertible w/Silvia Front

02-11-2003, 09:37 AM	#14
adey Post Whore! Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Hong Kong Posts: 3,072 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Good point, HaLo... I didn't notice that either. I don't know if backspacing is the same as S13s, but I know that you can fit at least a 1/2" wider wheel/tire on an S14 than you can on S13... my guess is that backspacing is similar, though... but with even more room back there, a +40 wheel will just look worse (more sunken in... although some people like that look...) If you want to be safe: go with 215. If you're willing to take a little bit of a risk: go 225. If you're buying a **** tire, go 225. If you're buying a nice sticky tire, go 215 (you reallllly wouldn't want to rub on a nice expensive sticky tire, whereas cheapos are disposable... to an extent.) __________________ Instagram: @SX180HKG

02-11-2003, 10:03 AM	#15
four Zilvia Addict Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Northern New Jersey Age: 41 Posts: 673 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	yep, i guess im going 215s thanks guys