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SLYDNBY · 12-02-2008, 01:50 PM

so im thinking about boosting my ka motor rather than doin a swap what is a down fall of some of these turbo kits i find on ebay? i am somone who believes u get what u pay for but for example look at this kit for $860 eBay Motors: Turbo kit 89 90 91 92 93 94 240SX S13 KA24DE Top Mount (item 380086525539 end time Dec-04-08 11:27:40 PST)

what could be wrong with that exept of course any tuning equip. so i would like some info from people that have tried these kits i have many fabricators around me that will help with any of that shit if something needs relocated or removed but i just would lik some imput thank you and also any one that has ka-t what do u use or would suggest to use for tuning thank u

Icy13 · 12-02-2008, 02:11 PM

www.ka-t.org

wealth of good info, however quick reply: the piping is generally not bad for anything that will not be pushed to the limits (basically, if you aren't looking for much more than 300, maybe 350, you should be good). However, the turbos are generally accepted to be crap. Buy a name brand turbo (Garrett, Turbonetics, HKS). A used t25 from a sr20 or various other applications would be 300-500 and should be much better than some badly machined POS (not that that one necc is, but it may be and therefore it is better to err on the side of a name brand that has some gurantee that its products will be trustworthy).

To all the ebay defenders, yes, it is completely possible to build a car that runs on ebay turbos for "over a year, man" and everyone has a friend who has done it. However, everyone also loves seeing the damage pictures of ebay moving parts.

So: get yourself the kit for the piping if you want, acknowledge that the turbo will essentially be a throw away (no one is going to buy it) and get yourself a name brand BOV and wastegate to protect your namebrand turbo (worth every penny).

Oh, and get your ass over to the link above (ka-t.org)

jmac636 · 12-02-2008, 02:22 PM

Wow, that kit is POS! Your probably going to get flamed for asking something that has been covered a million times. I'm no flammer I just don't want you to buy something that is no doubt not worth the money. Just piece your kit together from the forums. Their are alot of good used parts on here and other forums.(ka-t.org,240sxforums.com,and fresh alloy.) I just finished my garrett bottom mount t25 setup on 6lbs of boost and I am totally happy with my Ka-t. It starts boosting around 2500 rpms and pulls pretty damn hard. And for tuning at least get a pretuned ecu they work just fine and will save your engine. I am running a Jwt ecu that was bought used locally for $300 off Houston240sx.com. Good luck!

s13.5guy · 12-02-2008, 02:24 PM

Hello!

I do not recommend Ebay turbo kits for a KA. As I am a proud owner of a fully rebuild KA going turbo in less then 200 miles, let me share some advice.

What power are you looking for in your KA? What purpose? Daily/drift? Is your engine a DE? When you turbo a KA, you have to be careful how you do it. Too many peole slap on a turbo and call it good. But then their engine blows are something and they get upset and say KA-Ts are not good. I beg to differ.

If you are going to turbo your KA, I HIGHLY recommend a full rebuild with performance parts. Here is where I got mine. Automoto Sports Copyright&copy AMS 2006

Then I recommend some Brian Crower cams. 264 should be fine. That way you dont need to change out springs and such.

550 injectors

255 walbro pump

Front Mount and piping

You cant boost a tired engine and expect it to work really well, hence the rebuild kit. Once this is obtained, then decide on what turbo you want. For a good power range and to make good use of the rebuilt engine, I recommend a GT3071R. Some people say go t4, but to each their own. My reasoning with the 3071r is that you will have PLENTY of power and not harm your engine. The turbo is your choice, but i am merely offering suggestions.

Then I recommend a ROM tuned ecu, tuned for you exact set up.

You can visit KA-T.org for some GREAT info as well buddy.

Time is fleeting and I must go, however, if you have any questions, or if you want more info, please feel free to PM me

Here is my s13.5 thread to where you can see my engine and what has been done to it.

http://zilvia.net/f/chat/223459-my-r...-5-thread.html
I am both Kami Dori and s13.5guy in this thread. Account changed cause I shouldnt have been posting under a buddies shops name.

Adam

*NemeGuero* · 12-02-2008, 02:26 PM

I'm gonna check out this Calum ECU.

jmac636 · 12-02-2008, 02:32 PM

Actually, Sr t25 can be bought for $100 to $200 all day long used. I picked mine up for 150 and it is in great cond. It has normal shaft play. No smoke at all. Take your time searching but first figure out your goals.

EDT007 · 12-02-2008, 02:33 PM

I'm currently running KA-T. Tuning is all dependent on what your HP/boost level is. If you plan on running let's say maybe 6psi on a T3/T4OE (what I'm currenly running) you can get away with running a FMU. I've heard that you can go as high as 8psi on that turbo without needing any sort of fuel management past the FMU. As for the injectors they would def. need to be upgraded. At the very least you should use some SR20 stocks. The stock fuel pump should be good up to about ~ 8psi. As mentioned you should def. check out ka-t.org. There's a lot of good information and plenty of ppl that are willing to help. When it comes to turn up the boost..OBD1 conversion harness and NisTune FTW!!!

*NemeGuero* · 12-02-2008, 03:08 PM

NEVER use an FMU.

vvtisupra · 12-02-2008, 03:21 PM

aem ems hands down.

35 psi on a 11:1 compression KA-T with a GT3071 turbo

you can't beat it

If you are in so cal I know the perfect person and place to dyno. Price is alittle steep but you'd be guaranteed happy.

*NemeGuero* · 12-02-2008, 04:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vvtisupra

Price is alittle steep but you'd be guaranteed happy.

Mmmm... I love places like that.

hahahah

unlegendary · 12-02-2008, 05:04 PM

there is a sticky on this...search button is also your friend.

SLYDNBY · 12-02-2008, 08:36 PM

yeah im not going for a high horse motor on this i just want anywhere between 300 to 400 in my town if ur not 800 hp plus u aint shit i just want it so i can have fun with it and enjoy it myself plus there is nothing like wakin up in the morning getting in ur car on a nice ass summer day and just hearing the turbo scream all the way down the road god i fuckin hate winter anyways yup thats my goal and i appreciate everyones help on here

12-02-2008, 01:50 PM	#1
SLYDNBY Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: OHIO Age: 39 Posts: 23 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Ka-t and tuning? so im thinking about boosting my ka motor rather than doin a swap what is a down fall of some of these turbo kits i find on ebay? i am somone who believes u get what u pay for but for example look at this kit for $860 eBay Motors: Turbo kit 89 90 91 92 93 94 240SX S13 KA24DE Top Mount (item 380086525539 end time Dec-04-08 11:27:40 PST) what could be wrong with that exept of course any tuning equip. so i would like some info from people that have tried these kits i have many fabricators around me that will help with any of that shit if something needs relocated or removed but i just would lik some imput thank you and also any one that has ka-t what do u use or would suggest to use for tuning thank u Last edited by SLYDNBY; 12-02-2008 at 01:50 PM.. Reason: title

12-02-2008, 02:22 PM	#3
jmac636 Zilvia Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: huffman,tx Age: 48 Posts: 214 Trader Rating: (11) Feedback Score: 11 reviews	Wow, that kit is POS! Your probably going to get flamed for asking something that has been covered a million times. I'm no flammer I just don't want you to buy something that is no doubt not worth the money. Just piece your kit together from the forums. Their are alot of good used parts on here and other forums.(ka-t.org,240sxforums.com,and fresh alloy.) I just finished my garrett bottom mount t25 setup on 6lbs of boost and I am totally happy with my Ka-t. It starts boosting around 2500 rpms and pulls pretty damn hard. And for tuning at least get a pretuned ecu they work just fine and will save your engine. I am running a Jwt ecu that was bought used locally for $300 off Houston240sx.com. Good luck! __________________ S14 Turbo LS1/t56 http://www.playloudclothing.com/

12-02-2008, 02:24 PM	#4
s13.5guy Leaky Injector Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Washington Age: 38 Posts: 65 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Hello! I do not recommend Ebay turbo kits for a KA. As I am a proud owner of a fully rebuild KA going turbo in less then 200 miles, let me share some advice. What power are you looking for in your KA? What purpose? Daily/drift? Is your engine a DE? When you turbo a KA, you have to be careful how you do it. Too many peole slap on a turbo and call it good. But then their engine blows are something and they get upset and say KA-Ts are not good. I beg to differ. If you are going to turbo your KA, I HIGHLY recommend a full rebuild with performance parts. Here is where I got mine. Automoto Sports Copyright&copy AMS 2006 Then I recommend some Brian Crower cams. 264 should be fine. That way you dont need to change out springs and such. 550 injectors 255 walbro pump Front Mount and piping You cant boost a tired engine and expect it to work really well, hence the rebuild kit. Once this is obtained, then decide on what turbo you want. For a good power range and to make good use of the rebuilt engine, I recommend a GT3071R. Some people say go t4, but to each their own. My reasoning with the 3071r is that you will have PLENTY of power and not harm your engine. The turbo is your choice, but i am merely offering suggestions. Then I recommend a ROM tuned ecu, tuned for you exact set up. You can visit KA-T.org for some GREAT info as well buddy. Time is fleeting and I must go, however, if you have any questions, or if you want more info, please feel free to PM me Here is my s13.5 thread to where you can see my engine and what has been done to it. http://zilvia.net/f/chat/223459-my-r...-5-thread.html I am both Kami Dori and s13.5guy in this thread. Account changed cause I shouldnt have been posting under a buddies shops name. Adam __________________

12-02-2008, 02:26 PM	#5
NemeGuero No more nissan. Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: RAIN, Washington. Age: 40 Posts: 8,132 Trader Rating: (10) Rides Gallery: NemeGuero Feedback Score: 10 reviews	I'm gonna check out this Calum ECU. __________________

12-02-2008, 02:32 PM	#6
jmac636 Zilvia Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: huffman,tx Age: 48 Posts: 214 Trader Rating: (11) Feedback Score: 11 reviews	Actually, Sr t25 can be bought for $100 to $200 all day long used. I picked mine up for 150 and it is in great cond. It has normal shaft play. No smoke at all. Take your time searching but first figure out your goals. __________________ S14 Turbo LS1/t56 http://www.playloudclothing.com/

12-02-2008, 02:11 PM	#2
Icy13 Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 308 Trader Rating: (5) Rides Gallery: Icy13 Feedback Score: 5 reviews	www.ka-t.org wealth of good info, however quick reply: the piping is generally not bad for anything that will not be pushed to the limits (basically, if you aren't looking for much more than 300, maybe 350, you should be good). However, the turbos are generally accepted to be crap. Buy a name brand turbo (Garrett, Turbonetics, HKS). A used t25 from a sr20 or various other applications would be 300-500 and should be much better than some badly machined POS (not that that one necc is, but it may be and therefore it is better to err on the side of a name brand that has some gurantee that its products will be trustworthy). To all the ebay defenders, yes, it is completely possible to build a car that runs on ebay turbos for "over a year, man" and everyone has a friend who has done it. However, everyone also loves seeing the damage pictures of ebay moving parts. So: get yourself the kit for the piping if you want, acknowledge that the turbo will essentially be a throw away (no one is going to buy it) and get yourself a name brand BOV and wastegate to protect your namebrand turbo (worth every penny). Oh, and get your ass over to the link above (ka-t.org)

12-02-2008, 02:33 PM	#7
EDT007 Zilvia Addict Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: NJ Age: 43 Posts: 617 Trader Rating: (8) Feedback Score: 8 reviews	I'm currently running KA-T. Tuning is all dependent on what your HP/boost level is. If you plan on running let's say maybe 6psi on a T3/T4OE (what I'm currenly running) you can get away with running a FMU. I've heard that you can go as high as 8psi on that turbo without needing any sort of fuel management past the FMU. As for the injectors they would def. need to be upgraded. At the very least you should use some SR20 stocks. The stock fuel pump should be good up to about ~ 8psi. As mentioned you should def. check out ka-t.org. There's a lot of good information and plenty of ppl that are willing to help. When it comes to turn up the boost..OBD1 conversion harness and NisTune FTW!!!

12-02-2008, 03:08 PM	#8
NemeGuero No more nissan. Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: RAIN, Washington. Age: 40 Posts: 8,132 Trader Rating: (10) Rides Gallery: NemeGuero Feedback Score: 10 reviews	NEVER use an FMU. __________________

12-02-2008, 03:21 PM	#9
vvtisupra Nissanaholic! Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: SB and OC Posts: 2,118 Trader Rating: (16) Feedback Score: 16 reviews	aem ems hands down. 35 psi on a 11:1 compression KA-T with a GT3071 turbo you can't beat it If you are in so cal I know the perfect person and place to dyno. Price is alittle steep but you'd be guaranteed happy. __________________ http://www.fuckdrama.com/

12-02-2008, 05:04 PM	#11
unlegendary Zilvia Addict Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: with my parents Posts: 625 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	there is a sticky on this...search button is also your friend. __________________ Full Time Student for Life

12-02-2008, 08:36 PM	#12
SLYDNBY Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: OHIO Age: 39 Posts: 23 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	yeah im not going for a high horse motor on this i just want anywhere between 300 to 400 in my town if ur not 800 hp plus u aint shit i just want it so i can have fun with it and enjoy it myself plus there is nothing like wakin up in the morning getting in ur car on a nice ass summer day and just hearing the turbo scream all the way down the road god i fuckin hate winter anyways yup thats my goal and i appreciate everyones help on here