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MorganS13 · 03-08-2003, 04:28 PM

i have some hatch rust and the other day i went to get the chiltons out of my trunk and it happened to be soaking wet... since it was almost 60 today i decided to take out my spare and see just how bad the leak was, i found probably 1-1.5 inches of water just sittin in my damn spare well. along with a soaking wet carpet and condensation all over the place.

so anyways, i e-mailed a junkyard about a half hour away about a hatch i found through car-parts.com. the guy was real nice and gave me a call back this morning about it. basically its a red hatch without a spoiler and with a wiper. i know there isnt much to paint really, but how much do you think it would cost to get it painted black from red? the hatch itself is $50, and i'm going to pick it up myself so no shipping. i'm not sure when i'm gettin it put on, i need to find a spoiler like i first because i don't care much for the spoielrless look and i think the 180 type X spoiler is a little too big and tall for my tastes.

summary: new hatch, red, $50, how much to get painted black, any subtle spoilers that aren't too expensive (lip would be nice too)

*ca18guy* · 03-08-2003, 04:33 PM

Are you sure its not the seals around the hatch that need replaced?

Sniper-X · 03-08-2003, 04:37 PM

Given the small area, the shop will still probably charge you for a full quart of paint. it depends on what type of black you need since there's about 100 different types of black paint out there. If it's pearl, it'll cost more again. Plus labor.....

The best you can do is just take it around to shops to get estimates.

240Driver39 · 03-08-2003, 05:10 PM

yeah, you could be having some water come through the rust holes, but i would think that the bulk of it may be from the seals on the hatch, being in the colder months the seals tend to not work as well, lettin water and such leak in. I say this cause even with my new hatch (replaced my rust bucket), i still got a lil bit of water here and there.

JerkFaceJason · 03-08-2003, 05:29 PM

remove the small rubber drain plug, no more portable swimming pool

MorganS13 · 03-08-2003, 05:40 PM

tru... i'm sure some of the water is due to the trunk seal, but i had been meaning to get a new hatch for a while now, its hideous (just took this a minute ago)

AKADriver · 03-08-2003, 07:14 PM

$50 is an AWESOME deal!

240Driver39 · 03-08-2003, 07:40 PM

yeah i got mine for $100, my color too, no wiper or spoiler

*transient* · 03-08-2003, 09:01 PM

It's amazing how they all rust the same way. Even the bigger rust hole is on the same side that mine was. Right now my hatch is bondo'd up, but i'm going to get a new one sometime soon. I'd love to find a black one, but good luck, hehe.

240Driver39 · 03-08-2003, 10:07 PM

mine was the flip side of that one, bigger hole to the left, rust stains on the right haha, still got that thing sittin in my shed, figured if i was bored id practice some body work on it.

*transient* · 03-09-2003, 12:06 PM

Yeah, it was far from brilliant

CoasTek240 · 03-09-2003, 04:17 PM

i suggest prepping the car for paint and taking it to a maaco or some other discount paintshop...
their main flaw is they dont prep properly so if you do it they'll charge less and you can get a decent matching paint job.

as for the spoiler...fastbacks look amazing with wangan wings. but if you want something more subtle than the huge 180sx spoiler, don @ PDM sells a great clean looking spoiler for $250

91CRXsiR · 03-09-2003, 05:07 PM

a wing like mine [ if you can find it ] is pretty sutle..

also i heard on some FAQ that the leak comes from the tail light seals?...

i have the same problem.. but it doesnt rain much in LA

MorganS13 · 03-09-2003, 05:10 PM

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Originally posted by 91CRXsiR
a wing like mine [ if you can find it ] is pretty sutle..

also i heard on some FAQ that the leak comes from the tail light seals?...

i have the same problem.. but it doesnt rain much in LA

do you have some better pictures of the spoiler from different angles?

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*crioten* · 03-09-2003, 06:33 PM

also try and find a spoiler like the oneline lip spoiler, if you can find one look at it. they dont make them anymore, but im sure there are knockoffs somewhere...

MorganS13 · 03-09-2003, 06:44 PM

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Originally posted by crioten
also try and find a spoiler like the oneline lip spoiler, if you can find one look at it. they dont make them anymore, but im sure there are knockoffs somewhere...

actually i'd love something like the oneline lip. but i've never seen any knockoffs like it anywhere

Nismo240SX · 03-09-2003, 06:48 PM

yeah, i had the same problem a couple of weeks ago... i needed a breaker bar that was in the cubby hole with the spare tire... reached in to find i had enough water in my trunk to drown a small child.

a wet/dry vac did the trick and my carpet is still in the drying process. those damn nissan engineers, they never thought about rust...

91CRXsiR · 03-09-2003, 11:41 PM

nrcooled · 03-10-2003, 04:30 AM

I found a one at the junkyard for $100 in the same color and w/ a wiper. The install was way to easy and I have no more pools of water in my trunk.

The lid is where my leak was coming from and now the problem is solved

kuruptR · 03-10-2003, 03:45 PM

How do i prevent the rust from coming?

What model years does it happen on? all up to 93? or just 89-90

nrcooled · 03-10-2003, 05:18 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by kuruptR
How do i prevent the rust from coming?

What model years does it happen on? all up to 93? or just 89-90

If you have a hatch lid w/ a foam spoiler then you have a very good chance of having a rust problem. Some that are garage kept can avoid the rust but mine isn't one of those fortunate 240s

MorganS13 · 03-10-2003, 06:54 PM

i'm not sure how to prevent it, my hatch was perfect till just over 2 years ago. hell i thought i had avoided the hatch rust somehow... then the bubbles started forming pretty slowly, but once they opened up all hell breaks loose on your hatch. i tried putting rust convertor on the spot earlier on but it was a losing fight. u can see on my hatch how the left side isn't bad, it didn't start bubbling till probbaly 2 months ago but its already starting to stain as u can see. i expect it to be pretty bad and noticable by the end of summertime

an update: i called another junkyard hoping to find a black hatch, but theres was red as well and they wanted $175 for the same thing!!

CoasTek240 · 03-10-2003, 11:27 PM

i wanna say thats a xenon spoiler.. i've seen i aroudn plenty of palces.. cant seem to put my hand on it though.

smokin240 · 03-11-2003, 12:42 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by MorganS13
tru... i'm sure some of the water is due to the trunk seal, but i had been meaning to get a new hatch for a while now, its hideous (just took this a minute ago)

i see a lot of 240s with rust developing in that area.... mine is too... and its slowly getting worse...

i also have a pool of water where my spare tire is too.... sucks cuz i have no idea where its coming from.

03-08-2003, 04:28 PM	#1
MorganS13 Zilvia Addict Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Midwest Posts: 707 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	My trunk is a freakin pool... i have some hatch rust and the other day i went to get the chiltons out of my trunk and it happened to be soaking wet... since it was almost 60 today i decided to take out my spare and see just how bad the leak was, i found probably 1-1.5 inches of water just sittin in my damn spare well. along with a soaking wet carpet and condensation all over the place. so anyways, i e-mailed a junkyard about a half hour away about a hatch i found through car-parts.com. the guy was real nice and gave me a call back this morning about it. basically its a red hatch without a spoiler and with a wiper. i know there isnt much to paint really, but how much do you think it would cost to get it painted black from red? the hatch itself is $50, and i'm going to pick it up myself so no shipping. i'm not sure when i'm gettin it put on, i need to find a spoiler like i first because i don't care much for the spoielrless look and i think the 180 type X spoiler is a little too big and tall for my tastes. summary: new hatch, red, $50, how much to get painted black, any subtle spoilers that aren't too expensive (lip would be nice too)

03-08-2003, 04:37 PM	#3
Sniper-X Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Honolulu Posts: 403 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Given the small area, the shop will still probably charge you for a full quart of paint. it depends on what type of black you need since there's about 100 different types of black paint out there. If it's pearl, it'll cost more again. Plus labor..... The best you can do is just take it around to shops to get estimates. __________________ Image Exceeds Maximum Limits set by User Agrrement. Deleted by Moderator.

03-08-2003, 05:10 PM	#4
240Driver39 Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: May 2002 Location: Charleston, SC Age: 40 Posts: 1,090 Trader Rating: (1) Rides Gallery: 240Driver39 Feedback Score: 1 reviews	yeah, you could be having some water come through the rust holes, but i would think that the bulk of it may be from the seals on the hatch, being in the colder months the seals tend to not work as well, lettin water and such leak in. I say this cause even with my new hatch (replaced my rust bucket), i still got a lil bit of water here and there. __________________ 1990 240sx 5spd fastback

03-08-2003, 07:40 PM	#8
240Driver39 Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: May 2002 Location: Charleston, SC Age: 40 Posts: 1,090 Trader Rating: (1) Rides Gallery: 240Driver39 Feedback Score: 1 reviews	yeah i got mine for $100, my color too, no wiper or spoiler __________________ 1990 240sx 5spd fastback

03-08-2003, 09:01 PM	#9
transient Premium Member Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Los Angeles, California Age: 41 Posts: 2,947 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	It's amazing how they all rust the same way. Even the bigger rust hole is on the same side that mine was. Right now my hatch is bondo'd up, but i'm going to get a new one sometime soon. I'd love to find a black one, but good luck, hehe. __________________ Learn everything you can, while you still have the chance.

03-08-2003, 04:33 PM	#2
ca18guy Premium Member Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Clearwater FL Age: 42 Posts: 3,226 Trader Rating: (0) Rides Gallery: ca18guy Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Are you sure its not the seals around the hatch that need replaced?

03-08-2003, 05:29 PM	#5
JerkFaceJason Leaky Injector Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Texas Posts: 100 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	remove the small rubber drain plug, no more portable swimming pool

03-08-2003, 05:40 PM	#6
MorganS13 Zilvia Addict Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Midwest Posts: 707 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	tru... i'm sure some of the water is due to the trunk seal, but i had been meaning to get a new hatch for a while now, its hideous (just took this a minute ago)

03-08-2003, 07:14 PM	#7
AKADriver Post Whore! Join Date: May 2002 Location: Springfield, VA Age: 43 Posts: 3,517 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	$50 is an AWESOME deal!

03-08-2003, 10:07 PM	#10
240Driver39 Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: May 2002 Location: Charleston, SC Age: 40 Posts: 1,090 Trader Rating: (1) Rides Gallery: 240Driver39 Feedback Score: 1 reviews	mine was the flip side of that one, bigger hole to the left, rust stains on the right haha, still got that thing sittin in my shed, figured if i was bored id practice some body work on it. __________________ 1990 240sx 5spd fastback

03-09-2003, 12:06 PM	#11
transient Premium Member Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Los Angeles, California Age: 41 Posts: 2,947 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Yeah, it was far from brilliant __________________ Learn everything you can, while you still have the chance.

03-09-2003, 04:17 PM	#12
CoasTek240 Post Whore! Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: VA Age: 40 Posts: 3,034 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	i suggest prepping the car for paint and taking it to a maaco or some other discount paintshop... their main flaw is they dont prep properly so if you do it they'll charge less and you can get a decent matching paint job. as for the spoiler...fastbacks look amazing with wangan wings. but if you want something more subtle than the huge 180sx spoiler, don @ PDM sells a great clean looking spoiler for $250

03-09-2003, 05:07 PM	#13
91CRXsiR Nissanaholic! Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: City of Industry, CA [626] Age: 42 Posts: 2,092 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	a wing like mine [ if you can find it ] is pretty sutle.. also i heard on some FAQ that the leak comes from the tail light seals?... i have the same problem.. but it doesnt rain much in LA

03-09-2003, 06:48 PM	#17
Nismo240SX Zilvia Addict Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Marion, Virginia. Age: 39 Posts: 855 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	yeah, i had the same problem a couple of weeks ago... i needed a breaker bar that was in the cubby hole with the spare tire... reached in to find i had enough water in my trunk to drown a small child. a wet/dry vac did the trick and my carpet is still in the drying process. those damn nissan engineers, they never thought about rust... __________________ 1990 Nissan 240sx:s13 blacktop, s13.5 front

03-09-2003, 11:41 PM	#18
91CRXsiR Nissanaholic! Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: City of Industry, CA [626] Age: 42 Posts: 2,092 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews

03-10-2003, 04:30 AM	#19
nrcooled Nissanaholic! Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Turn 8 'bout to get rolled by a SC'd ITR Age: 46 Posts: 1,849 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I found a one at the junkyard for $100 in the same color and w/ a wiper. The install was way to easy and I have no more pools of water in my trunk. The lid is where my leak was coming from and now the problem is solved __________________ '91 hatch w/ SR Sold; '03 Evo Sold 401 HP; '03 MS Protege sold; '00 Evo 6.5 TME Sold 300HP

03-10-2003, 03:45 PM	#20
kuruptR Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: UpNorth Posts: 1,046 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	How do i prevent the rust from coming? What model years does it happen on? all up to 93? or just 89-90 __________________ @woooster on instagram

03-10-2003, 06:54 PM	#22
MorganS13 Zilvia Addict Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Midwest Posts: 707 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	i'm not sure how to prevent it, my hatch was perfect till just over 2 years ago. hell i thought i had avoided the hatch rust somehow... then the bubbles started forming pretty slowly, but once they opened up all hell breaks loose on your hatch. i tried putting rust convertor on the spot earlier on but it was a losing fight. u can see on my hatch how the left side isn't bad, it didn't start bubbling till probbaly 2 months ago but its already starting to stain as u can see. i expect it to be pretty bad and noticable by the end of summertime an update: i called another junkyard hoping to find a black hatch, but theres was red as well and they wanted $175 for the same thing!!

03-10-2003, 11:27 PM	#23
CoasTek240 Post Whore! Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: VA Age: 40 Posts: 3,034 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	i wanna say thats a xenon spoiler.. i've seen i aroudn plenty of palces.. cant seem to put my hand on it though.