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renegade8999 · 07-03-2009, 07:24 PM

I just purchased a 89' 240 and the kid that owned it previously had done some "cute" wiring for his stereo. The ground had come undone on the sub though and i had a friend over that loves working on and tuning stereos so i told him have at it. He regrounded the sub and got whole system working great and i was completely happy... till i tried to start the car. the car cranks but will not start up at all. i have checked all the fuses and took the opportunity to replace all the spark plugs and wires but i still cannot get the damned thing to start... tried jumping it just for extra power but it cranks and cranks and nothing. Please any ideas are appreciated

also i tried unplugging the entire stereo after, ground and all. No change.

surreybc · 07-03-2009, 07:39 PM

did you check fusible links in relay box by battery? you really have to scrutinize them sometimes becuas is hard to see blown fuse sometimes.

renegade8999 · 07-03-2009, 08:30 PM

From what i could tell all of those fuses looked fine...
Holy pain to pull the damned things out though...

stereo, lights, seat belts everything electrical in the car that i can tell works just fine i just can't get the damned thing to start. neighbor was sure i was being stupid and that it wasn't cranking only clicking but it is full on cranking just no start...
He said possibility that i ungrounded fuel pump some how when i grounded the sub? Don't see how that could have happened

surreybc · 07-03-2009, 09:19 PM

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Originally Posted by renegade8999

From what i could tell all of those fuses looked fine...
Holy pain to pull the damned things out though...

stereo, lights, seat belts everything electrical in the car that i can tell works just fine i just can't get the damned thing to start. neighbor was sure i was being stupid and that it wasn't cranking only clicking but it is full on cranking just no start...
He said possibility that i ungrounded fuel pump some how when i grounded the sub? Don't see how that could have happened

you will hear the fuel pump in the trunk growling for a few seconds when you turn key to on.

renegade8999 · 07-03-2009, 10:35 PM

is it really loud enough for me to be able to hear?
not sure i can hear it nothing makes much noise other than the engine cranking

S-Nation S13 · 07-03-2009, 10:56 PM

lol youll hear the prime if you have a garage close the door turn you hey to position 3 with out starting it you hear a lil buzz noise in your trunk ..lol that the fuel pump priming if not replace it

sil80 monster · 07-03-2009, 11:04 PM

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Originally Posted by renegade8999

is it really loud enough for me to be able to hear?
not sure i can hear it nothing makes much noise other than the engine cranking

sounds like a fuel problem or a bad ground somewhere. just turn the key to the "ON" position, go back to the trunk area and listen for a buzzing/humming noise....(without cranking the motor)....if you dont hear anything....change the fuel pump

renegade8999 · 07-03-2009, 11:39 PM

okay will definitely attempt that tomorrow at some point and see how it goes...
will update on how things go soon as i check

i'm hoping for a ground problem over replacing it. Is there an easy way of checking for ground problems on fuel pump instead of assuming the worst and replacing?

surreybc · 07-04-2009, 12:04 AM

get a multimeter. digital. cheap. check your fusible links with it also.

renegade8999 · 07-19-2009, 12:39 AM

So the final verdict
had a neighbor of mine help me at first
Fuel pump...? Works just fine independantly but not with vehicle...
Neither of us had the foggiest clue as to why.
$240 later at the repair shop...
Previous owner had done some electrical work and grounded to the harness and in some fluke while i was doing stereo grounding we blew the main electrical fuse and scorched some wiring under fusilage box... FML lol

07-03-2009, 07:24 PM	#1
renegade8999 Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Glendale Posts: 14 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Car Won't Start I just purchased a 89' 240 and the kid that owned it previously had done some "cute" wiring for his stereo. The ground had come undone on the sub though and i had a friend over that loves working on and tuning stereos so i told him have at it. He regrounded the sub and got whole system working great and i was completely happy... till i tried to start the car. the car cranks but will not start up at all. i have checked all the fuses and took the opportunity to replace all the spark plugs and wires but i still cannot get the damned thing to start... tried jumping it just for extra power but it cranks and cranks and nothing. Please any ideas are appreciated also i tried unplugging the entire stereo after, ground and all. No change.

07-03-2009, 07:39 PM	#2
surreybc Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: surrey Posts: 359 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	did you check fusible links in relay box by battery? you really have to scrutinize them sometimes becuas is hard to see blown fuse sometimes.

07-03-2009, 08:30 PM	#3
renegade8999 Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Glendale Posts: 14 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	From what i could tell all of those fuses looked fine... Holy pain to pull the damned things out though... stereo, lights, seat belts everything electrical in the car that i can tell works just fine i just can't get the damned thing to start. neighbor was sure i was being stupid and that it wasn't cranking only clicking but it is full on cranking just no start... He said possibility that i ungrounded fuel pump some how when i grounded the sub? Don't see how that could have happened

07-03-2009, 10:35 PM	#5
renegade8999 Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Glendale Posts: 14 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	is it really loud enough for me to be able to hear? not sure i can hear it nothing makes much noise other than the engine cranking

07-03-2009, 10:56 PM	#6
S-Nation S13 Post Whore! Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: LAND of the LOST Posts: 4,083 Trader Rating: (92) Feedback Score: 92 reviews	lol youll hear the prime if you have a garage close the door turn you hey to position 3 with out starting it you hear a lil buzz noise in your trunk ..lol that the fuel pump priming if not replace it

07-03-2009, 11:39 PM	#8
renegade8999 Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Glendale Posts: 14 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	okay will definitely attempt that tomorrow at some point and see how it goes... will update on how things go soon as i check i'm hoping for a ground problem over replacing it. Is there an easy way of checking for ground problems on fuel pump instead of assuming the worst and replacing?

07-04-2009, 12:04 AM	#9
surreybc Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: surrey Posts: 359 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	get a multimeter. digital. cheap. check your fusible links with it also.

07-19-2009, 12:39 AM	#10
renegade8999 Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Glendale Posts: 14 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	So the final verdict had a neighbor of mine help me at first Fuel pump...? Works just fine independantly but not with vehicle... Neither of us had the foggiest clue as to why. $240 later at the repair shop... Previous owner had done some electrical work and grounded to the harness and in some fluke while i was doing stereo grounding we blew the main electrical fuse and scorched some wiring under fusilage box... FML lol