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willievo · 07-20-2009, 02:00 AM

So how Bad is the damage?
Will it pass safety inspection? or will it need to be repaired?
if so how much would it cost?

Pic of the center

Driver side damage

Passenger Side

racepar1 · 07-20-2009, 02:07 AM

That damage is pretty typical. It's a bitch to fix and it does compromise chasis rigidity enough to not be happy with but I doubt you will fail any inspection because of it. That's just from some idiot jacking the car up in the wrong spot, repeatedly it looks like.

I LUV MY S13 · 07-20-2009, 02:09 AM

yea someone didnt kno how to jack up tha car properly

OMSIN · 07-20-2009, 02:12 AM

I am certified by the state of TX to do car inspections and use to do so at jiffy lube, I can tell you right now your car can't be failed because of frame damage.

the damage doesn't appear to be to bad, I got the same thing going on driver side rear

gotspins13 · 07-20-2009, 02:13 AM

does it drive straight????

OMSIN · 07-20-2009, 02:15 AM

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Originally Posted by gotspins13

does it drive straight????

lol. thats funny

TravisSW · 07-20-2009, 02:15 AM

Wasn't there a guy somewhere a while back making new and I think maybe better frame rails? Think they where something that you put over the old ones though.

willievo · 07-20-2009, 02:16 AM

omg thanks a lot for your guys commet
Yea the Previuos Owner was a women thats why lol

i was about to shit myself when i saw the damage hahaha

willievo · 07-20-2009, 02:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gotspins13

does it drive straight????

omg thats funny but to answer your question yes it does

Edit Sorry about the double Post

Redline24/7 · 07-20-2009, 02:20 AM

thats not your " Frame "

***FaLKoN240*** · 07-20-2009, 03:34 AM

Those are just frame rails, they're not THAT important.

Cars in Japan don't even have them.

s13 @ fullboost · 07-20-2009, 03:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FaLKoN240

Those are just frame rails, they're not THAT important.

Cars in Japan don't even have them.

That's in Japan not in the US&A(borat voice) haha

Matej · 07-20-2009, 03:54 AM

Someone should make something like this for the S-chassis. I have pretty much scraped through my frame rails.

s13 @ fullboost · 07-20-2009, 03:59 AM

that my friend is baller

GSXRJJordan · 07-20-2009, 04:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gotspins13

does it drive straight????

If it doesn't, it's not because of that 'damage'.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matej

Someone should make something like this for the S-chassis. I have pretty much scraped through my frame rails.

I bet, your shit is stupid low. Those bars are just 1" square tubing I bet, but if you put that under the frame rails, now those are the lowest part of the car and you'll scrape even more. Plus there's no need, I have my entire 3" exhaust tucked above my frame rails - no need for the tubing to protect it.

projectRDM · 07-20-2009, 10:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by willievo

omg thanks a lot for your guys commet
Yea the Previuos Owner was a women thats why lol

i was about to shit myself when i saw the damage hahaha

You must not have ever seen a car before. At least the underside of one. I've never seen a car period that didn't have beat up rails, even my old Datsun 210 that was senior citizen driven was crunched. People don't pay attention when they drive and the rails are the lowest part on most cars, so they all get damaged.

Worrying about that is like worrying about bird shit on the paint.

ILoveMyRHS13 · 07-20-2009, 10:46 AM

I will NEVER understand why people don't jack up FROM THE FUCKING JACK POINTS.

My rails are clean... For now.

dmax_silvia_s13 · 07-20-2009, 11:07 AM

My rails are just MINT.

racepar1 · 07-20-2009, 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by projectRDM

You must not have ever seen a car before. At least the underside of one. I've never seen a car period that didn't have beat up rails, even my old Datsun 210 that was senior citizen driven was crunched. People don't pay attention when they drive and the rails are the lowest part on most cars, so they all get damaged.

Worrying about that is like worrying about bird shit on the paint.

My rails USED to be perfectly clean. Then my idiot friends decided to do me a "favor" and change my tires for me while I was in the driver's meeting at the redline time attack this year. Some "favor" that was.

drftmark · 07-20-2009, 11:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by racepar1

My rails USED to be perfectly clean. Then my idiot friends decided to do me a "favor" and change my tires for me while I was in the driver's meeting at the redline time attack this year. Some "favor" that was.

now you don't have to worry about them anymore.

one less thing to stress out about.

racepar1 · 07-20-2009, 01:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by drftmark

now you don't have to worry about them anymore.

one less thing to stress out about.

I'm actually building another chasis, hopefully it'll be done by the end of the year. Not because of the framerails though. I don't worry about the framerails anyways. I'm not low enough to scrape them unless something decidedly bad happens and I know where to jack the damn car up!

I LUV MY S13 · 07-20-2009, 01:17 PM

yea my rails are clean too

singlecamslam · 07-20-2009, 02:54 PM

My rails used to be clean untill i had to use the jack on them in a emergency situation. You wont notice a "rigidity" difference with damaged rails unless they are REALLY messed up.

07-20-2009, 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by FaLKoN240

Those are just frame rails, they're not THAT important.

Cars in Japan don't even have them.

correct, its a frame RAIL... our cars dont have frames, its unibody design.

i'de have a body shop beat the body back into shape. done and done.

yokotavia · 07-20-2009, 04:45 PM

cars in japan dont have them? what the fuck?

i had an s13 in japan, and the "frame rails" were smashed almost flat on both sides towards the front from misscoursing at ebisu when i was a noob, drove perfectly fine and didnt effect chassis rigidness.

who ever said cars in japan dont have the same "rail" design is INCORRECT

slothonaleash · 07-20-2009, 04:50 PM

My rails have terrible rust holes at the point where they turn up before the front wheels. The rails are about an inch off the ground, so they get bashed like fuck at that spot as well. Car drives fiiine.

Shadowhunter · 07-20-2009, 07:18 PM

Those frame rails are cooking foil thin and in my opinion don't do shit. As mentioned above the JDM cars do not even have em, I freaked out first time I tried to jack up my car and one caved in a little bit, but did some reading and they really should have no bearing on handling.

07-20-2009, 08:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by yokotavia

cars in japan dont have them? what the fuck?

i had an s13 in japan, and the "frame rails" were smashed almost flat on both sides towards the front from misscoursing at ebisu when i was a noob, drove perfectly fine and didnt effect chassis rigidness.

who ever said cars in japan dont have the same "rail" design is INCORRECT

its not that the overseas models dont have them, its that they dont have the ENTIRE frame rail.. they are missing parts of the rear/mid section. actually, its probably only one side. search through pics of 200/180sx'es and you'll see what were all talking about, SONNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNnnn

93nismo · 07-20-2009, 09:14 PM

mine are like that and my rockers are all smashed up and flat from the people who had it before me.

07-20-2009, 02:00 AM	#1
willievo Zilvia Junkie Join Date: May 2009 Location: Socal (562) Area Age: 34 Posts: 579 Trader Rating: (19) Feedback Score: 19 reviews	How Bad Is The Damage So how Bad is the damage? Will it pass safety inspection? or will it need to be repaired? if so how much would it cost? Pic of the center Driver side damage Passenger Side __________________ My Daily Driver

07-20-2009, 02:09 AM	#3
I LUV MY S13 Post Whore! Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Norwalk, Los Angeles Age: 35 Posts: 3,349 Trader Rating: (35) Rides Gallery: I LUV MY S13 Feedback Score: 35 reviews	yea someone didnt kno how to jack up tha car properly __________________ -Jorge

07-20-2009, 02:13 AM	#5
gotspins13 Zilvia Addict Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: NorCAl//Sacramento Posts: 944 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	does it drive straight???? __________________ perfectly said! FJ20ET 16 valve - the holy grail of Nissan engines

07-20-2009, 02:15 AM	#7
TravisSW Nissanaholic! Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Orange County, CA Age: 40 Posts: 2,071 Trader Rating: (9) Feedback Score: 9 reviews	Wasn't there a guy somewhere a while back making new and I think maybe better frame rails? Think they where something that you put over the old ones though. __________________ 1986 Porsche 944 Turbo (951) 1995 Nissan 240sx (S14) Miss ya.

07-20-2009, 02:16 AM	#8
willievo Zilvia Junkie Join Date: May 2009 Location: Socal (562) Area Age: 34 Posts: 579 Trader Rating: (19) Feedback Score: 19 reviews	omg thanks a lot for your guys commet Yea the Previuos Owner was a women thats why lol i was about to shit myself when i saw the damage hahaha __________________ My Daily Driver

07-20-2009, 02:07 AM	#2
racepar1 Post Whore! Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Simi Valley, CA Age: 42 Posts: 9,006 Trader Rating: (106) Rides Gallery: racepar1 Feedback Score: 106 reviews	That damage is pretty typical. It's a bitch to fix and it does compromise chasis rigidity enough to not be happy with but I doubt you will fail any inspection because of it. That's just from some idiot jacking the car up in the wrong spot, repeatedly it looks like.

07-20-2009, 02:12 AM	#4
OMSIN Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Austin, TX Age: 36 Posts: 7 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I am certified by the state of TX to do car inspections and use to do so at jiffy lube, I can tell you right now your car can't be failed because of frame damage. the damage doesn't appear to be to bad, I got the same thing going on driver side rear

07-20-2009, 02:20 AM	#10
Redline24/7 BANNED Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Chino Posts: 65 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	thats not your " Frame "

07-20-2009, 03:34 AM	#11
*FaLKoN240* Super Moderator Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: SoCal Temecula Posts: 16,893 Trader Rating: (73) Feedback Score: 73 reviews	Those are just frame rails, they're not THAT important. Cars in Japan don't even have them. __________________ Best way to do business with me? Make your best offer FIRST.

07-20-2009, 03:54 AM	#13
Matej Post Whore! Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: N/A Posts: 9,423 Trader Rating: (39) Feedback Score: 39 reviews	Someone should make something like this for the S-chassis. I have pretty much scraped through my frame rails.

07-20-2009, 03:59 AM	#14
s13 @ fullboost Post Whore! Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: St.Petersburg,FL Posts: 2,550 Trader Rating: (15) Feedback Score: 15 reviews	that my friend is baller __________________

07-20-2009, 11:07 AM	#18
dmax_silvia_s13 Leaky Injector Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Alberta Age: 35 Posts: 117 Trader Rating: (0) Rides Gallery: dmax_silvia_s13 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	My rails are just MINT. __________________ Brandon Kelly 1990 Nissan Silvia

07-20-2009, 01:17 PM	#22
I LUV MY S13 Post Whore! Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Norwalk, Los Angeles Age: 35 Posts: 3,349 Trader Rating: (35) Rides Gallery: I LUV MY S13 Feedback Score: 35 reviews	yea my rails are clean too __________________ -Jorge

07-20-2009, 02:54 PM	#23
singlecamslam Post Whore! Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Norcal Posts: 2,534 Trader Rating: (10) Feedback Score: 10 reviews	My rails used to be clean untill i had to use the jack on them in a emergency situation. You wont notice a "rigidity" difference with damaged rails unless they are REALLY messed up. __________________ Nothing says racecar like a stock car with no interior.

07-20-2009, 04:45 PM	#25
yokotavia Zilvia Addict Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: The land of bosos and schoolgirls Posts: 679 Trader Rating: (16) Feedback Score: 16 reviews	cars in japan dont have them? what the fuck? i had an s13 in japan, and the "frame rails" were smashed almost flat on both sides towards the front from misscoursing at ebisu when i was a noob, drove perfectly fine and didnt effect chassis rigidness. who ever said cars in japan dont have the same "rail" design is INCORRECT __________________ Banana boat chronicles

07-20-2009, 04:50 PM	#26
slothonaleash Zilvia Addict Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Columbus, Ohio Age: 33 Posts: 745 Trader Rating: (4) Feedback Score: 4 reviews	My rails have terrible rust holes at the point where they turn up before the front wheels. The rails are about an inch off the ground, so they get bashed like fuck at that spot as well. Car drives fiiine.

07-20-2009, 07:18 PM	#27
Shadowhunter Zilvia Addict Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: San Diego,CA Age: 40 Posts: 647 Trader Rating: (10) Feedback Score: 10 reviews	Those frame rails are cooking foil thin and in my opinion don't do shit. As mentioned above the JDM cars do not even have em, I freaked out first time I tried to jack up my car and one caved in a little bit, but did some reading and they really should have no bearing on handling.

07-20-2009, 09:14 PM	#29
93nismo Zilvia Addict Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: sycamore il Posts: 766 Trader Rating: (14) Feedback Score: 14 reviews	mine are like that and my rockers are all smashed up and flat from the people who had it before me.