why do people talk about their vehicles that can drift?

[mvaters]

really? who buys a car cause you can drift with it. drift setup for a street car is gay. no body drifts on the street. unless its late at night in a secluded area, but still, how often would one get a chance to do it?

[DoriftoSlut]

Oh my. Someone doesn't know anything.

Setting it up for drift and posing is not cool. that is very dumb. Setting up a car for drift events that is also your daily driver... nothing wrong with that...

[mvaters]

ya, people set up for track, thats cool, but im just saying that people talk about how an AE86 can drift from stock or people assosiate drifting with the 240sx

[SilviaDriver]

Originally posted by Dorifto180sx
Setting up a car for drift events that is also your daily driver... nothing wrong with that

that is what im doing..cuz i have no choice..my car is my beater and track car. not rich enough to buy another car.

[DoriftoSlut]

S-Chassis were marketed as "drift" cars as well as sports cars in japan. They had tv commercials with the cas drifting and promoted the chassis as the best drift car. So is it surprising that people think about them in said ways?

[Dousan_PG]

my car is set up for drift
then again im at the track 3 times a month sometimes
actually...im at the track today..its 4:15 am..damn i gotta go eat!

[Chokets]

I bough my 240 for drifting and beating... my previous car was an RX7... after I blew the engine i knew i needed a drift car that could also handle Daily Driving. a New rx7 engine would just blow after a year of daily driving and regular drifting so i researched and picked my 240, i'm very happy with it... does'nt have the feel on my RX7, but i really like driving it!

[andrave]

I really hate to bring this up, but I have been watching TV, and the commercials for cars like, oh, say the FWD pontiac vibe, the FWD Toyota camry, and the FWD pontiac grand prix all show them "drifting," but unfortunatley they are aren't "set up for drifting stock." Just cause they show it on a commercial for the car doesn't mean the car is set up for that or that people will necessarily associate those behaviors with that car.

[AKADriver]

Originally posted by mvaters
ya, people set up for track, thats cool, but im just saying that people talk about how an AE86 can drift from stock or people assosiate drifting with the 240sx

That's because they're ricers that don't have any understanding of motorsports/performance driving.

You can 'drift' anything... search through my posts for a tarmac rally video I posted showing a Lada (crappy old Soviet car) drifting...

Conversely, the wicked-looking, fast, exciting drifts they see on their bootleg option videos do take a level of car prep that those stuck in the world of LED washer nozzles can't understand. They see an AE86 or S13 sliding with cracked stock bodywork and 15" wheels and assume it's factory-stock.

[misnomer]

Any car can be drifted if you're good enough. I personally am not a fan of the drifting or the new craze, but if it's your thing, by all means.

[AKADriver]

Originally posted by andrave
I really hate to bring this up, but I have been watching TV, and the commercials for cars like, oh, say the FWD pontiac vibe, the FWD Toyota camry, and the FWD pontiac grand prix all show them "drifting," but unfortunatley they are aren't "set up for drifting stock." Just cause they show it on a commercial for the car doesn't mean the car is set up for that or that people will necessarily associate those behaviors with that car.

heh... that sort of footage in commercials has been used for decades, don't think it's a "JDM tite drift" thing. Throwing a slide in a commercial is a sure-fire way to make a car look "exciting", just like the ubiquitous tree-lined back road shots make the car look "relaxing" or Honda's white backdrops make their cars look "basic".

Watch closely in the commercials, a lot of the time you can see the rear wheels stop dead for short periods as the stunt driver yanks the handbrake. Also notice they're almost always shot on a dry lake where the sand/salt makes for not only a good visual statement, but conveniently makes it easy to break traction.

[jdmrice]

I tried to drive my car with the same setup for street and track..not saying that I want to practice drifting on the street..but simply get used to how the car react at every single incident...

Moto San from Club4GA wrote a good article...call "street racing?"...now I am posting it here and share with you guys...
driving on the street can be boring...if you are just "driving"...
driving on the street can be interesting...if you are "learning"...

here is the post... written by Moto-P from www.club4ag.com

direct link www.club4ag.com]http://forums.club4ag.com/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=29154[/URL]

copy and paste:

OK... I dont mean this in a traditional sense...BUT, there are lots of things you can do in the streets while abiding traffic laws that will make you a better sports car driver.

1. Search for small objects in the road like pebbles while cruising around town, trash or lane-markers (that wont damage your tires) and see if you can step on it with your tire accurately. This will teach you the exact location of your contact patch, and more accurate idea in the back of your head about dimensions of your car as well --
This is useful when you are on a racetrack and aiming for a apex point...to be able to get close to the edge of the road whithout falling off...or drifting to feel where your rear tires are tracing.

2. Try to be stable on your steering inputs... try staying on a lane marker for as long as you can without veering off from it... This teaches you to be very accurate in tracing where you want to go on a raceway. You will notice this is harder than you might think on say a freeway...at speeds of 50 to 70 mph...

3. At an intersection while stopped, rev and hold your engine to 2000, 3000, and 4000, then at 3500, 4500, etc... in neutral... Try to do this without veering your rpm too much... It's something pretty difficult at first too... Once you get good at it, you should be able to tell where your engine speeds are without even looking at the tachometer. -- useful for heel and toe shifts to be able to hit a target rpm accurately and quicky by blipping. And the small increments of foot movement can teach you to stay very accurate in managing throttle inputs in racing... Best pro drivers will be able to demonstrate this with single blip and hold at 250 rpm increments...

4. Try to stop at an intersection line accurately without modulating the brake force too much. This does not have to be at dangerous sudden stopping. You can start early and guess how much stopping pressure is required by your feet... Ideally, you should press once at a given pressure, and hold that pressure to stop at exactly where you want... Useful in teaching you how to brake effieiently and translate braking forces to your foot from feedback of G's.

If you can constantly pay attention to these things...not only you will be a smoother diver in a daily commute but you will be much more ahead of those guys that can't do that on the raceway...trust me... It's a great way to advance your background skills before coming to a raceway.

In that sense, the sport driving can start on the street. Learning how every little motion of your car, even in normal traffic speeds, affect your car and how aware you can be to those motions...

Go ahead... Go to it...it's actually more challenging than you think! and it's safe.




Moto
Webmaster, Club4AG


so now you know.....

[mrmephistopheles]

wtf? jdmrice, you're a newbie! stfu! your car can't drift!


(PS. I like the new wheels! Your car's looking great!)

[PabloHoney]

...and knowing is half the battle!
[queues GI Joe theme music]

[old_s13]

What p1sses me off are people who modify their cars not for the modification, but for the "brand" of the modification and being able to sport it in a sense of "trendiness" -- phuck the motherphucking phuckers.

Most of the sh1t I've done to my car has been done with my own hands. Almost ALL of the modifications I have purchased have required further modification because the products were not complete NOR were they fully operational. I spent a fair chunk of change on my B&M shifter only to find that its a rattling peice of sh1t -- and yes, its the NEW version.

Sporting the look with the brands makes you a trendy phuck face. Having a stock-looking car but spending the time to learn how to drive it makes you a true enthusiast.

- Mike

[DoriftoSlut]

Richard, nice post.

[jdmrice]

Kevin,

it's Me who can't drift....not my car....my car drifted fine...lol

thanks...i love my new wheels too...it's crazy...and it's even crazier that i am drifing with those wheel

Originally posted by mrmephistopheles
wtf? jdmrice, you're a newbie! stfu! your car can't drift!


(PS. I like the new wheels! Your car's looking great!)

[ny_jee]

Since when did jdmrice started visiting zilvia.net? How come you are in front of the computer and not at the track today?

[AKADriver]

Originally posted by old_s13
Sporting the look with the brands makes you a trendy phuck face. Having a stock-looking car but spending the time to learn how to drive it makes you a true enthusiast.

Rock on.

Not that having a nice-looking car is a bad thing at all, but having a nice-looking car and claiming that makes you a MAD DRIFTER... meh

[jdmrice]

why can't i visit zilvia.net??.. ..new thing is always better no??

i am a NOOB here men...kinda make me feel refreshing..away from all those **** talking and stuff....

i am not at the track today...because...i don't want to
IAS is next week..don't want to **** up the car...

just wait...after IAS...after import tuner....car will be back on the street...

btw...David just bought(or going to buy) pj's AE86.... for len chen o bai ko....(nicky you should be able to read it..just so everyone else dont' know the price..sorry)..

Richard

Originally posted by ny_jee
Since when did jdmrice started visiting zilvia.net? How come you are in front of the computer and not at the track today?

[ny_jee]

WTF... I guess he gave up on his own project then...

[ISTOTOSAO]

I didn't read what every one else said but I drift my car at every turn thats not full of cars. it is a stock peice except for an sr and it is still damn fun to hit every turn with the ass out. try it some time you'll like it.

[DoriftoSlut]

Originally posted by 2NRS130
I didn't read what every one else said but I drift my car at every turn thats not full of cars. it is a stock peice except for an sr and it is still damn fun to hit every turn with the ass out. try it some time you'll like it.

Good post! For me to poop on. Yes, everyone, hang the tail out! Kill oncoming traffic! Good stuff!

[s13rookie]

jdmrice, i read the post you reposted, im thining my drive to work tommarow will be a little different!!

and about setting a car up for drift and driving it on the street is stupid? how about setting your car up for auto-x and driving it on the street, is that stupid as well? i, for one, dont have money to buy a specific carfor racing/drifting, nor have the time and energy to set up a car, run an event, and than revert back to stock set up for a week or two.


man, imagine those people who love there cars, work all week to pay for them, race on sunday and drive to work on monday with no changes, man what fools!!?????


matt

[Nurv]

function over form. does it apply to you?

i dont normally post on here but come across on ocassion. if you cant afford a track and use your daily as occ. track machine then fine. some cant afford it but that doesnt dignify tuning your car one way or the other. why not make it decent on all playing fields? thats just my 2 cents.

i also have the money for a daily driver and having a track vehicle as well. but i used to have it both ways, track car on the street sucks. my old fox mustang GT with brembos, coil overs, hi flo xhaust, and wide sticky tires. sure was nice but hated it. but i since because wiser, landed better job, and converted to the righteous nissan path.

[syco3d]

Originally posted by Nurv
f... but i since because wiser, landed better job, and converted to the righteous nissan path.

Amen brother.