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kalypso123 · 08-10-2009, 10:59 AM

who made it first?

or I should say.. who designed it first? I know it started as an idea on someone's drafting table... in a small prefecture in japan...

Bushido · 08-10-2009, 11:24 AM

it's not an especially original design... 5 spoke wheels have been around forever.

I think it was designed around 2000.

heres a shirt of the history of ssr wheel design:
SSR Limited Edition T-Shirt - SSR Timeline

also, the Garson Deep Racing looks almost identical to the sp1's... not sure which came first though.

S-Nation S13 · 08-10-2009, 11:35 AM

so is it safe to say that the garsons are knock off of the sp1 btw they look pretty legit in my eyes

DMaxUSA · 08-10-2009, 11:45 AM

I believe Work Meister came out first, then SSR SP1.

kalypso123 · 08-10-2009, 12:25 PM

Thank you D.

ill keep looking

C-unit · 08-10-2009, 12:26 PM

Garson's are made by SSR so they are not knock off of the SP1.

1CLNS14 · 08-10-2009, 01:29 PM

God or the dos xx man.

*fliprayzin240sx* · 08-11-2009, 10:27 AM

Honestly...who cares when you cant afford neither set...

J/K

T_wei · 08-11-2009, 12:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fliprayzin240sx

Honestly...who cares when you cant afford neither set...

J/K

Sp1 ones aren't that expensive...
you can get a whole set for $2k they are like 560 a piece MSRP

SSR Wheels - SSR Professor SP-1

Dousan_PG · 08-11-2009, 12:58 PM

HahaHAHAHaha
why does it matter? School report
I like meisters more face lip offset etc choices

Matej · 08-11-2009, 01:01 PM

The first set was forged atop mount Olympus by Haruguchi in 61 B.C.

zaneithan · 08-11-2009, 01:02 PM

garsons are different in that they dont have a stepped lip and like dousan said, i think you can pretty much choose your offset with meisters... with the sp1's when i ordered there were set offsets, not sure if you can make custom offsets and for 2 18's and 2 17's it was like 2200 shipped... man i miss aspec logan

HyperTek · 08-11-2009, 01:21 PM

just get the rotas bro!

aoiken3 · 08-11-2009, 01:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HyperTek

just get the rotas bro!

hahahha -1 for being poor jk

Quail · 08-11-2009, 02:20 PM

I don't particularly like Garsons, they look a lot chunkier/heavier than sp1s/meisters. SP1s look more refined (with the recessed bolts), but I like meisters for their aggressiveness. I am biased though

3AM · 08-11-2009, 06:14 PM

what ive heard is that work came up with it first. then speedstar (SSR) made a "version" of it for cheaper. basically similar but not exactly the same. may or may not be true.

here are some observations

ssr sp1 vs work meister

also check out other speedstars for a laugh

SSR gt2 vs Nismo LMGT

SSR d5r vs volk GT-C

SSRcomp vs advan RG

dont get me wrong I love speed stars. they make good strong wheels. but wow.

rota probably just changed the design enough so they havent been sued yet.

08-10-2009, 10:59 AM	#1
kalypso123 (ノಠ益ಠ)ノ彡 Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: New York, NY Posts: 2,853 Trader Rating: (2) Feedback Score: 2 reviews	where did the meister / sp1 wheel originate? who made it first? or I should say.. who designed it first? I know it started as an idea on someone's drafting table... in a small prefecture in japan...

08-10-2009, 11:24 AM	#2
Bushido Post Whore! Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: SFL Posts: 3,563 Trader Rating: (10) Feedback Score: 10 reviews	it's not an especially original design... 5 spoke wheels have been around forever. I think it was designed around 2000. heres a shirt of the history of ssr wheel design: SSR Limited Edition T-Shirt - SSR Timeline also, the Garson Deep Racing looks almost identical to the sp1's... not sure which came first though. __________________

08-10-2009, 11:45 AM	#4
DMaxUSA Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Torrance, CA Posts: 569 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I believe Work Meister came out first, then SSR SP1. __________________ dmax-us.com

08-10-2009, 01:29 PM	#7
1CLNS14 Zilvia Addict Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: SoCal Age: 42 Posts: 838 Trader Rating: (44) Feedback Score: 44 reviews	God or the dos xx man. __________________ Daily Driven

08-11-2009, 10:27 AM	#8
fliprayzin240sx Man w/ CTSV & a Car Seat Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Tampa Posts: 17,998 Trader Rating: (19) Rides Gallery: fliprayzin240sx Feedback Score: 19 reviews	Honestly...who cares when you cant afford neither set... J/K __________________ If you think Zilvia has too many assholes... CLICK HERE!!!

08-10-2009, 11:35 AM	#3
S-Nation S13 Post Whore! Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: LAND of the LOST Posts: 4,083 Trader Rating: (92) Feedback Score: 92 reviews	so is it safe to say that the garsons are knock off of the sp1 btw they look pretty legit in my eyes

08-10-2009, 12:25 PM	#5
kalypso123 (ノಠ益ಠ)ノ彡 Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: New York, NY Posts: 2,853 Trader Rating: (2) Feedback Score: 2 reviews	Thank you D. ill keep looking

08-10-2009, 12:26 PM	#6
C-unit Nissanaholic! Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Vancouver, Hongkong. Age: 40 Posts: 1,808 Trader Rating: (7) Feedback Score: 7 reviews	Garson's are made by SSR so they are not knock off of the SP1.

08-11-2009, 12:58 PM	#10
Dousan_PG Post Whore! Join Date: May 2002 Location: Orange County, California Age: 46 Posts: 16,640 Trader Rating: (23) Rides Gallery: Dousan_PG Feedback Score: 23 reviews	HahaHAHAHaha why does it matter? School report I like meisters more face lip offset etc choices __________________ Aaron Pink GodziRa www.geocities.com/pink_godzira

08-11-2009, 01:01 PM	#11
Matej Post Whore! Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: N/A Posts: 9,423 Trader Rating: (39) Feedback Score: 39 reviews	The first set was forged atop mount Olympus by Haruguchi in 61 B.C.

08-11-2009, 01:02 PM	#12
zaneithan Zilvia Addict Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: NY Age: 40 Posts: 948 Trader Rating: (10) Feedback Score: 10 reviews	garsons are different in that they dont have a stepped lip and like dousan said, i think you can pretty much choose your offset with meisters... with the sp1's when i ordered there were set offsets, not sure if you can make custom offsets and for 2 18's and 2 17's it was like 2200 shipped... man i miss aspec logan __________________ 1993 240sx fastback (wrecked) 1991 240sx SE fastback Daily Driver status 1992 240sx fastback (???) 1986 Toyota Corolla SR5 Coupe (sold)

08-11-2009, 01:21 PM	#13
HyperTek Post Whore! Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Cali Posts: 13,224 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	just get the rotas bro! __________________ Keep it Classy

08-11-2009, 02:20 PM	#15
Quail Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: UK Age: 38 Posts: 1,378 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	I don't particularly like Garsons, they look a lot chunkier/heavier than sp1s/meisters. SP1s look more refined (with the recessed bolts), but I like meisters for their aggressiveness. I am biased though __________________

08-11-2009, 06:14 PM	#16
3AM Leaky Injector Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: australia Posts: 76 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	what ive heard is that work came up with it first. then speedstar (SSR) made a "version" of it for cheaper. basically similar but not exactly the same. may or may not be true. here are some observations ssr sp1 vs work meister also check out other speedstars for a laugh SSR gt2 vs Nismo LMGT SSR d5r vs volk GT-C SSRcomp vs advan RG dont get me wrong I love speed stars. they make good strong wheels. but wow. rota probably just changed the design enough so they havent been sued yet.