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510-SR20DET · 09-16-2009, 11:16 PM

so i decided to take the spark plugs out today. i noticed that cylinder 3 has a weird ass feeling, very loose. I was like wtf, did i fuck up the threads? so i checked and there was no sign of fucked up threads, scraped off aluminum ect... so i called this shop and ask them "how much to fix a fucked up threads SR head" The guy laughed and asked me "Is it on cylinder 3? did you blow your Head gasket?" He was right on the dock, it's cylinder 3 and i have a blown HG. I asked him how he know. he said it very popular/comon on Sr head (cylinder 3) to feel like that when you have a blown HG.
Is it true what he said? All the S14 Sr20DET owners out there, do you have the same thing going on? feel like it cant be tighten down real good, very loose. and WHY?

garagelu · 09-16-2009, 11:28 PM

So you said there is no sign of the threads being fucked up but you still called the shop asking how much to fix fucked up threads on an sr?

So are the threads fucked up or not? Can you still thread in a spark plug and torque it down to spec? And is it loose all the way down. What if you thread it in 3/4 of the way down. Is it still looser than the other 3 spark plugs?

And why are you specifying s14 sr owners? s13 and s15 have pretty much the same head design. s13 and s15 use the same stock composite head gasket that is prone to blowing when you increase the boost. Just pull the head off and change the head gasket to a metal one. Preferably an apexi one.

S14_Kouki · 09-16-2009, 11:54 PM

Wow crazy shit no iv never seen/heard that before gl with it

steve shadows · 09-17-2009, 12:14 AM

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Originally Posted by 510-SR20DET

so i decided to take the spark plugs out today. i noticed that cylinder 3 has a weird ass feeling, very loose. I was like wtf, did i fuck up the threads? so i checked and there was no sign of fucked up threads, scraped off aluminum ect... so i called this shop and ask them "how much to fix a fucked up threads SR head" The guy laughed and asked me "Is it on cylinder 3? did you blow your Head gasket?" He was right on the dock, it's cylinder 3 and i have a blown HG. I asked him how he know. he said it very popular/comon on Sr head (cylinder 3) to feel like that when you have a blown HG.
Is it true what he said? All the S14 Sr20DET owners out there, do you have the same thing going on? feel like it cant be tighten down real good, very loose. and WHY?

THat is TOTAL BULLSHIT

Is this the same shop that installed your plugs?

It sounds like they or whoever installed the plugs FUCKED UP and stripped your head.

Loose Threads are not a symptom of a bad HG.

THey are a symptom of a a stripped spark plug threads PERIOD, whether or not that was caused by something else that is yet to be discovered.

Shitty this is eitehr way you have to pull the head to get this fixed.

Sounds like they were doing shaddy stuff to try to squeeze money out of you right now for a head job.

A lot of shops are doing really shaddy stuff trying to hustle right now due to the economy being slow. In fact the bigger the shop the shaddier they are right now it seems

Not trying to jump to conclusions but I would love to hear who installed the plugs last

09-17-2009, 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by steve shadows

THat is TOTAL BULLSHIT

Is this the same shop that installed your plugs?

It sounds like they or whoever installed the plugs FUCKED UP and stripped your head.

Loose Threads are not a symptom of a bad HG.

THey are a symptom of a a stripped spark plug threads PERIOD, whether or not that was caused by something else that is yet to be discovered.

Shitty this is eitehr way you have to pull the head to get this fixed.

Sounds like they were doing shaddy stuff to try to squeeze money out of you right now for a head job.

A lot of shops are doing really shaddy stuff trying to hustle right now due to the economy being slow. In fact the bigger the shop the shaddier they are right now it seems

Not trying to jump to conclusions but I would love to hear who installed the plugs last

steve is right.....................

this is like a girl saying you got her preggus when you bummed her in the arse. ask ali g, it aint possible man.

bottom line is, you clearly dont have an understanding of how motors work if you're confusing these two issues.

*DALAZ_68* · 09-17-2009, 10:01 AM

yeah, i kinda wanna know what shop this is, so i can avoid getting work done there

blackej7 · 09-17-2009, 10:27 AM

just call them back...

tell them you dont understand...

ask them to explain how a blown headgasket will cause the spark plug threads to strip.... tell them you just wanna understand what happened...

lets see what they tell you

SR_Vlurs · 09-17-2009, 08:12 PM

Sounds like u got lied to bad bro

S14_Kouki · 09-17-2009, 08:43 PM

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Originally Posted by blackej7

just call them back...

tell them you dont understand...

ask them to explain how a blown headgasket will cause the spark plug threads to strip.... tell them you just wanna understand what happened...

lets see what they tell you

I want to know what they say call them.

510-SR20DET · 09-18-2009, 12:12 AM

so no one else got their cylinder 3 loose like mine? look like my head got fucked, this was done at BlackTrax in Milpitas, Ca. It would be a waste of time to argue w/ them about the head. Instead i just fix this at else where. should i fix the bad head or buy another one? can it be fix? have this guy selling a blown long block for $450 shipped obviously the block is blown but the head is good. should i take it or fix the bad head?

Agamemnon · 09-18-2009, 12:24 AM

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Originally Posted by 510-SR20DET

so no one else got their cylinder 3 loose like mine? look like my head got fucked, this was done at BlackTrax in Milpitas, Ca. It would be a waste of time to argue w/ them about the head. Instead i just fix this at else where. should i fix the bad head or buy another one? can it be fix? have this guy selling a blown long block for $450 shipped obviously the block is blown but the head is good. should i take it or fix the bad head?

After you get your bad head fixed, you should see about getting your bad grammar fixed.

slow40sx · 09-18-2009, 12:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Agamemnon

After you get your bad head fixed, you should see about getting your bad grammar fixed.

oh shux, you beat me to it haha

*fliprayzin240sx* · 09-18-2009, 01:56 AM

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Originally Posted by 510-SR20DET

so no one else got their cylinder 3 loose like mine? look like my head got fucked, this was done at BlackTrax in Milpitas, Ca. It would be a waste of time to argue w/ them about the head. Instead i just fix this at else where. should i fix the bad head or buy another one? can it be fix? have this guy selling a blown long block for $450 shipped obviously the block is blown but the head is good. should i take it or fix the bad head?

So BlackTrax put the spark plug in and fucked up the thread or they just inspected it for you? If they did the swap and had the spark plug in there, I'd fucking raise some HELL.

510-SR20DET · 09-18-2009, 02:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Agamemnon

After you get your bad head fixed, you should see about getting your bad grammar fixed.

I DONT GIVE A SHIT about my grammar. If you cant help about my problem w/ the engine, save your time on your stupid reply.

EDacIouSX · 09-18-2009, 05:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Agamemnon

After you get your bad head fixed, you should see about getting your bad grammar fixed.

You should fix your opor grammar.

bigOdom1 · 09-18-2009, 06:21 AM

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Originally Posted by EDacIouSX

You should fix your opor grammar.

thats just pathetic.

510-SR20DET · 09-18-2009, 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by EDacIouSX

You should fix your opor grammar.

fix my grammar? lmao

510-SR20DET · 09-18-2009, 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by slow40sx

oh shux, you beat me to it haha

You should check your signature before you tell me to check my grammar. smart ass

Projectenzo · 09-18-2009, 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by steve shadows

THat is TOTAL BULLSHIT

Is this the same shop that installed your plugs?

It sounds like they or whoever installed the plugs FUCKED UP and stripped your head.

Loose Threads are not a symptom of a bad HG.

THey are a symptom of a a stripped spark plug threads PERIOD, whether or not that was caused by something else that is yet to be discovered.

Shitty this is eitehr way you have to pull the head to get this fixed.

Sounds like they were doing shaddy stuff to try to squeeze money out of you right now for a head job.

A lot of shops are doing really shaddy stuff trying to hustle right now due to the economy being slow. In fact the bigger the shop the shaddier they are right now it seems

Not trying to jump to conclusions but I would love to hear who installed the plugs last

Your are so right steve, I took my buddy's truck to the ford dealership today to get an oil change and this B!@#$ tried to come at me with some "Your air filter is bad and needs to be changed, your battery is dead and needs a new one, oh and the fuel filter it screwed all up." I told him, " I didn't ask you to check any of those things and the coupon is just for the oil change, do what your asked!". Then I called my buddy and told him about this BS, so we could crack jokes on them. (FYI, I'm an aviation mechanical) That **snip** got served.

garagelu · 09-18-2009, 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by 510-SR20DET

fix my grammar? lmao

thats spelling, not grammar buddy.

510-SR20DET · 09-18-2009, 06:37 PM

^ wow you can tell! really? lmao, any more smart ass in here? My point was if you're going to smart ass on other's grammar, at least get the spelling correct.

Grimace · 09-18-2009, 10:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Projectenzo

Your are so right steve, I took my buddy's truck to the ford dealership today to get an oil change and this B!@#$ tried to come at me with some "Your air filter is bad and needs to be changed, your battery is dead and needs a new one, oh and the fuel filter it screwed all up." I told him, " I didn't ask you to check any of those things and the coupon is just for the oil change, do what your asked!". Then I called my buddy and told him about this BS, so we could crack jokes on them. (FYI, I'm an aviation mechanical) That **snip** got served.

Sigh, Do you have any fucking idea how a dealer ship works?

You the shit head customer talks with the service writer. The service writer then comes to the tech and hands them a ticket/P.O. Every dealership I worked at had some form of 18/32/64 point inspection with EVERY service.

So, The tech who worked on your car preformed said inspection. Found a couple of little problems and told you about them. I fail to see where he was a giant dick and offended you so greatly that you had to call your boyfriend to gab to him about it.

Also, If your such a bad ass aviation tech..... How can you not even change oil on a ford? You fail harder then the kid who put nos in his brand new gixxer.

Ontopic.

No, Someone along the road fucked up your head. Machine it, Or get a new one.

zenki.life · 09-21-2009, 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Grimace

Sigh, Do you have any fucking idea how a dealer ship works?

You the shit head customer talks with the service writer. The service writer then comes to the tech and hands them a ticket/P.O. Every dealership I worked at had some form of 18/32/64 point inspection with EVERY service.

So, The tech who worked on your car preformed said inspection. Found a couple of little problems and told you about them. I fail to see where he was a giant dick and offended you so greatly that you had to call your boyfriend to gab to him about it.

Also, If your such a bad ass aviation tech..... How can you not even change oil on a ford? You fail harder then the kid who put nos in his brand new gixxer.

Ontopic.

No, Someone along the road fucked up your head. Machine it, Or get a new one.

i was thinking the same thing about the oil change

maybe he didnt want to void the warranty. lol

Not You · 09-21-2009, 12:21 PM

Thats the dumbest shit i've ever heard, if that was my head id throw it through there shop window and tell them to fix it.

SR20DETdatsun510 · 09-22-2009, 02:08 PM

I just took my SR20DET swapped 510 into Blacktrax yesterday for some engine problems. (Bad Idle, Runs rich and smokes, Stutters under acceleration, falls on its face near redline) Should I even take it back? It is hella hard to find a competent shop around here!

*fliprayzin240sx* · 09-22-2009, 04:09 PM

Blacktrax is a decent shop, then again, I dont know whos working there now. Been over 4 yrs since I've seen anything about them.

jspaeth · 09-22-2009, 05:55 PM

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Originally Posted by ixfxi

steve is right.....................

this is like a girl saying you got her preggus when you bummed her in the arse. ask ali g, it aint possible man.

bottom line is, you clearly dont have an understanding of how motors work if you're confusing these two issues.

Well, technically, there could be some circumstances in which the **cough** makes its way into the poony

Hashiriya415 · 09-22-2009, 06:39 PM

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jrbump · 09-22-2009, 07:29 PM

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Originally Posted by ixfxi

this is like a girl saying you got her preggus when you bummed her in the arse. ask ali g, it aint possible man.

I beg to differ, Urban Dictionary: assidental

oh and to the OP, you know for sure when you strip those threads out. Look at the threads on the plug. Full of metal?

09-16-2009, 11:16 PM	#1
510-SR20DET Zilvia Junkie Join Date: May 2008 Location: Aye Bay Bay Posts: 418 Trader Rating: (9) Feedback Score: 9 reviews	Call out all S14 Sr20det owners....weirdest shit on SR i ever known about engine so i decided to take the spark plugs out today. i noticed that cylinder 3 has a weird ass feeling, very loose. I was like wtf, did i fuck up the threads? so i checked and there was no sign of fucked up threads, scraped off aluminum ect... so i called this shop and ask them "how much to fix a fucked up threads SR head" The guy laughed and asked me "Is it on cylinder 3? did you blow your Head gasket?" He was right on the dock, it's cylinder 3 and i have a blown HG. I asked him how he know. he said it very popular/comon on Sr head (cylinder 3) to feel like that when you have a blown HG. Is it true what he said? All the S14 Sr20DET owners out there, do you have the same thing going on? feel like it cant be tighten down real good, very loose. and WHY?

09-17-2009, 10:01 AM	#6
DALAZ_68 not giving a fuck Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Los angeles Age: 38 Posts: 15,077 Trader Rating: (104) Feedback Score: 104 reviews	yeah, i kinda wanna know what shop this is, so i can avoid getting work done there __________________ LOL 240... whats better than 1? 5 1's ...lol PSN & XBL GT : Wh0pp3r68 CLUB LEXUS : Wh0pp3r

09-17-2009, 10:27 AM	#7
blackej7 Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Midwest Posts: 324 Trader Rating: (9) Feedback Score: 9 reviews	just call them back... tell them you dont understand... ask them to explain how a blown headgasket will cause the spark plug threads to strip.... tell them you just wanna understand what happened... lets see what they tell you __________________

09-17-2009, 08:12 PM	#8
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09-18-2009, 06:37 PM	#21
510-SR20DET Zilvia Junkie Join Date: May 2008 Location: Aye Bay Bay Posts: 418 Trader Rating: (9) Feedback Score: 9 reviews	^ wow you can tell! really? lmao, any more smart ass in here? My point was if you're going to smart ass on other's grammar, at least get the spelling correct. __________________ Originally Posted by EDaciouSX You should fix your opor* grammar.*

09-16-2009, 11:28 PM	#2
garagelu Nissanaholic! Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Atlanta, GA Age: 40 Posts: 1,856 Trader Rating: (60) Feedback Score: 60 reviews	So you said there is no sign of the threads being fucked up but you still called the shop asking how much to fix fucked up threads on an sr? So are the threads fucked up or not? Can you still thread in a spark plug and torque it down to spec? And is it loose all the way down. What if you thread it in 3/4 of the way down. Is it still looser than the other 3 spark plugs? And why are you specifying s14 sr owners? s13 and s15 have pretty much the same head design. s13 and s15 use the same stock composite head gasket that is prone to blowing when you increase the boost. Just pull the head off and change the head gasket to a metal one. Preferably an apexi one.

09-16-2009, 11:54 PM	#3
S14_Kouki Nissanaholic! Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Tampa, FL Posts: 1,947 Trader Rating: (4) Feedback Score: 4 reviews	Wow crazy shit no iv never seen/heard that before gl with it

09-18-2009, 12:12 AM	#10
510-SR20DET Zilvia Junkie Join Date: May 2008 Location: Aye Bay Bay Posts: 418 Trader Rating: (9) Feedback Score: 9 reviews	so no one else got their cylinder 3 loose like mine? look like my head got fucked, this was done at BlackTrax in Milpitas, Ca. It would be a waste of time to argue w/ them about the head. Instead i just fix this at else where. should i fix the bad head or buy another one? can it be fix? have this guy selling a blown long block for $450 shipped obviously the block is blown but the head is good. should i take it or fix the bad head?

09-21-2009, 12:21 PM	#24
Not You Leaky Injector Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: FailIDA Posts: 119 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Thats the dumbest shit i've ever heard, if that was my head id throw it through there shop window and tell them to fix it.

09-22-2009, 02:08 PM	#25
SR20DETdatsun510 BANNED Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Brentwood Posts: 109 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I just took my SR20DET swapped 510 into Blacktrax yesterday for some engine problems. (Bad Idle, Runs rich and smokes, Stutters under acceleration, falls on its face near redline) Should I even take it back? It is hella hard to find a competent shop around here!

09-22-2009, 04:09 PM	#26
fliprayzin240sx Man w/ CTSV & a Car Seat Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Tampa Posts: 17,998 Trader Rating: (19) Rides Gallery: fliprayzin240sx Feedback Score: 19 reviews	Blacktrax is a decent shop, then again, I dont know whos working there now. Been over 4 yrs since I've seen anything about them. __________________ If you think Zilvia has too many assholes... CLICK HERE!!!

09-22-2009, 06:39 PM	#28
Hashiriya415 Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: San Francisco Age: 37 Posts: 1,007 Trader Rating: (22) Feedback Score: 22 reviews	YouTube - TIME SERT