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andrave · 05-03-2003, 01:15 PM

Ok I took my stock rods off, burnt the old bushings out, and I found (to my dismay) that my driver's and passenger T/C rods are different. Each one has a sort of lip that goes around the outside. Anyway I'm taking the new poly bushings and my old rods down to a machine shop to have the new ones pressed in but before I do I need to know if that lip is supposed to be there. On the driver's side the lip was just that- a little lip around the edge of the hole where the bushing goes in. But on the passenger side its thicker.
If those lips need to come out, what do I need to get them out? they look welded or hardcore pressed in.
I searched but couldn't find much info.
Thanks for your help.

andrave · 05-03-2003, 07:41 PM

This is a picture of the TC rod ends with the lip. You can see what I'm talking about, how it has a lip towards the inside of the hole where the bushings go.
Can some please advise? thanks!

deviousKA · 05-03-2003, 07:59 PM

those are the metal rims on for the stock bushings you burned out. they should be pressed out but some other methods could be used. if your bringing your rods to a shop you shouldnt have burned them out. it would have been easier to press them

andrave · 05-03-2003, 08:47 PM

Well the passenger one was destroyed so I figured I'd just burn the rubber off... anyway whats done is done, so how should I go about getting those rims off? beating with a chisel or a punch, or grinding them off?

uiuc240 · 05-03-2003, 08:53 PM

just have the shop that is pressing your new bushings IN, push what's left of the old bushings OUT.

Eric

andrave · 05-03-2003, 10:45 PM

well the machine shop I'm going to.. the owner is sort of a family friend and I'm thinking if I can get it down to pressing out two bushings he might do it free of charge.
I'm gonna *try* and beat the remains out tonight and see how that goes.

andrave · 05-03-2003, 11:34 PM

well I just tried prying and beating, and that simply isn't going to cut it. I guess I'll hand em over to the machine shop on monday and see if they can do anything with em.

240Stilo · 05-04-2003, 03:26 AM

I just replaced my bushings. The shop charged me 20 to press out the old bushings and press in the new ones. My biggest problem was finding a shop to do it. Many shops were intimidated to do the job because the polyurethane bushings are bigger than the stock ones so they would say I have the wrong ones. So just look for a shop with a press and problem solved. Make sure you torque the tension rods I torqued them at 76 lb/ft i think. And if it's not obvious another thing you might want to do is jack up the lower control arm so you can put on the tension rod with more ease.

andrave · 05-04-2003, 01:38 PM

what did your rods look like when they pushed the old bushings out? I'm trying to figure that out still...

240Stilo · 05-04-2003, 01:47 PM

If you have AIM you can just IM me (Stilo9) and I can answer your questions. But to answer this question, before they pressed out the bushing there was the rubber part of the bushing and a metal ring that it's attatched to. When the bushing is pressed out there should be nothing in the tension rod loop. I can't see too well from your pic but if you took out all the rubber stuff yourself it was just a waste of time because when they press out the ring in the tension rod the rubber comes out with it.

EDIT: Ok I got a beter look at your pic and as reference you can look at it and see the white ring of "stuff" that's in between the tension rod and the ring (on the inside) that has to be pressed out.

andrave · 05-04-2003, 02:48 PM

white stuff is penetrating grease that I put on. Isn't working.

deviousKA · 05-04-2003, 06:43 PM

dont mess up our tc rods by trying to beat them out improper. just take it to the shop they can press it out. the hardest part is getting a cylinder the exact size of that ring to press it. they will look at it and figure that getting those rings out will be easy compared to puttin those whitelines in

240Stilo · 05-04-2003, 07:39 PM

I was just mentioning the white stuff so I'm sure you know what has to be pressed out. But like the previous poster said, take it to a shop and have them do it; cost me $20 for both to get pressed. You can try it on your own but it is really difficult and you could possibly get hurt. The only person I recall that did it on their own used a sledge hammer and some large sockets so that alone told me to have a shop do it.

andrave · 05-04-2003, 09:13 PM

yeah I'm taking it to the shop, I can't do anything else with it myself.

05-03-2003, 01:15 PM	#1
andrave BANNED Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Burton WV Posts: 2,350 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Need help with PDM T/C bushings Ok I took my stock rods off, burnt the old bushings out, and I found (to my dismay) that my driver's and passenger T/C rods are different. Each one has a sort of lip that goes around the outside. Anyway I'm taking the new poly bushings and my old rods down to a machine shop to have the new ones pressed in but before I do I need to know if that lip is supposed to be there. On the driver's side the lip was just that- a little lip around the edge of the hole where the bushing goes in. But on the passenger side its thicker. If those lips need to come out, what do I need to get them out? they look welded or hardcore pressed in. I searched but couldn't find much info. Thanks for your help.

05-03-2003, 08:53 PM	#5
uiuc240 Nissanaholic! Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Naperville, IL Age: 46 Posts: 2,093 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	just have the shop that is pressing your new bushings IN, push what's left of the old bushings OUT. Eric __________________ 2002 Mazda Protege5 1989 S13 w/SR20DET (sold)

05-04-2003, 03:26 AM	#8
240Stilo Junkie Join Date: May 2002 Location: Socal Age: 41 Posts: 1,160 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I just replaced my bushings. The shop charged me 20 to press out the old bushings and press in the new ones. My biggest problem was finding a shop to do it. Many shops were intimidated to do the job because the polyurethane bushings are bigger than the stock ones so they would say I have the wrong ones. So just look for a shop with a press and problem solved. Make sure you torque the tension rods I torqued them at 76 lb/ft i think. And if it's not obvious another thing you might want to do is jack up the lower control arm so you can put on the tension rod with more ease. __________________ -Juan

05-04-2003, 01:47 PM	#10
240Stilo Junkie Join Date: May 2002 Location: Socal Age: 41 Posts: 1,160 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	If you have AIM you can just IM me (Stilo9) and I can answer your questions. But to answer this question, before they pressed out the bushing there was the rubber part of the bushing and a metal ring that it's attatched to. When the bushing is pressed out there should be nothing in the tension rod loop. I can't see too well from your pic but if you took out all the rubber stuff yourself it was just a waste of time because when they press out the ring in the tension rod the rubber comes out with it. EDIT: Ok I got a beter look at your pic and as reference you can look at it and see the white ring of "stuff" that's in between the tension rod and the ring (on the inside) that has to be pressed out. __________________ -Juan Last edited by 240Stilo; 05-04-2003 at 01:53 PM..

05-04-2003, 07:39 PM	#13
240Stilo Junkie Join Date: May 2002 Location: Socal Age: 41 Posts: 1,160 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I was just mentioning the white stuff so I'm sure you know what has to be pressed out. But like the previous poster said, take it to a shop and have them do it; cost me $20 for both to get pressed. You can try it on your own but it is really difficult and you could possibly get hurt. The only person I recall that did it on their own used a sledge hammer and some large sockets so that alone told me to have a shop do it. __________________ -Juan

05-03-2003, 07:41 PM	#2
andrave BANNED Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Burton WV Posts: 2,350 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	This is a picture of the TC rod ends with the lip. You can see what I'm talking about, how it has a lip towards the inside of the hole where the bushings go. Can some please advise? thanks!

05-03-2003, 07:59 PM	#3
deviousKA Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Idaho Posts: 437 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	those are the metal rims on for the stock bushings you burned out. they should be pressed out but some other methods could be used. if your bringing your rods to a shop you shouldnt have burned them out. it would have been easier to press them

05-03-2003, 08:47 PM	#4
andrave BANNED Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Burton WV Posts: 2,350 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Well the passenger one was destroyed so I figured I'd just burn the rubber off... anyway whats done is done, so how should I go about getting those rims off? beating with a chisel or a punch, or grinding them off?

05-03-2003, 10:45 PM	#6
andrave BANNED Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Burton WV Posts: 2,350 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	well the machine shop I'm going to.. the owner is sort of a family friend and I'm thinking if I can get it down to pressing out two bushings he might do it free of charge. I'm gonna try and beat the remains out tonight and see how that goes.

05-03-2003, 11:34 PM	#7
andrave BANNED Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Burton WV Posts: 2,350 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	well I just tried prying and beating, and that simply isn't going to cut it. I guess I'll hand em over to the machine shop on monday and see if they can do anything with em.

05-04-2003, 01:38 PM	#9
andrave BANNED Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Burton WV Posts: 2,350 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	what did your rods look like when they pushed the old bushings out? I'm trying to figure that out still...

05-04-2003, 02:48 PM	#11
andrave BANNED Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Burton WV Posts: 2,350 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	white stuff is penetrating grease that I put on. Isn't working.

05-04-2003, 06:43 PM	#12
deviousKA Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Idaho Posts: 437 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	dont mess up our tc rods by trying to beat them out improper. just take it to the shop they can press it out. the hardest part is getting a cylinder the exact size of that ring to press it. they will look at it and figure that getting those rings out will be easy compared to puttin those whitelines in

05-04-2003, 09:13 PM	#14
andrave BANNED Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Burton WV Posts: 2,350 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	yeah I'm taking it to the shop, I can't do anything else with it myself.