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N1ceDrgn · 07-23-2003, 07:22 AM

..Almost a year ago, I sold off a second engine I had to some one, not to mention any names, 'Darrel Tanap' and well, he welched on paying off the amount agreed on. I wanted to know what the overall opinion would be on how to resolve this. I've been pretty lenient under the circumstances with current events and he even involved his girlfriend but she even backed out. I wanted to put this out and learn what others may have to say about this.

S13S14S15 · 07-23-2003, 07:51 AM

any written evidence that he owns you money?

N1ceDrgn · 07-23-2003, 07:55 AM

I've got the check that he stopped payment on about the same time he got home with the engine, plus several Email messages promising payments that were never delivered.

CoasTek240 · 07-23-2003, 09:00 AM

you gottz screw him over now. u've got some written evidence. hit em hard with it

N1ceDrgn · 07-23-2003, 09:04 AM

I'm pretty much at the point of getting a group together and either demanding money from his front door or repo'ing the car.

Dousan_PG · 07-23-2003, 09:05 AM

take him to court.
well first threaten him with that, see what he does. then really do it.

N1ceDrgn · 07-23-2003, 09:15 AM

He's affiliated with the military as well, so I was considering that as something else to do. I had started thinking about court but I'm looking for a more immediate solution. So, I was going to gather some friends and S13/14 drivers, make a road trip and try to finish this.

Dousan_PG · 07-23-2003, 09:19 AM

military boy a well?? OOOH bad for him
find some info and get ready to report it. warn him first and if not...too bad so sad..

N1ceDrgn · 07-23-2003, 09:37 AM

Yeah, he's military, a Sea Bee reservist out of Port Hueneme. I've already talked to the Navy there, so they know but they have been less than cooperative on helping. So, that's why I was going to make a visit sometime and either ask for the cash in front of him or get with the local autorities there and make things happen that way. I'm trying to keep things personal. He made it personal by stiffing me, so...

ISTOTOSAO · 07-23-2003, 12:05 PM

if you do file anything against him, file it in your home town. that way he has to come to you or default. still trying to get money myself so I know how you feel. only in my case it is my brother in law and over stereo equipment. family always further complicates matters like this. good luck

*radhaz* · 07-23-2003, 12:06 PM

Hmm an employer not wanting to help get involved in a employees personal faulk-up, that's just odd. If the incident happened was work related then I can see them getting involved ie he wanted the engine for a vehicle to be used on-site. But if it's a personal matter then you've pretty much already stated you know what to do, either get it from him personally or get the local authorities involved.

Dishonest people suck, they make trading/selling online more difficult than it needs to be. I truly hope you stick this guy for everything he owes you plus the time and effort you've had to invest into this.

N1ceDrgn · 07-23-2003, 12:26 PM

I put the post out here to learn what others think or had to say. I am going to do what I can to get what he owes me, that's definite. Losers like this are the reason there is so much worry when it comes to online or personal sales. I was trying to be positive about it when I made the sale but I guess losers are everywhere.

misnomer · 07-23-2003, 09:55 PM

"more immediate" solution than court?

Driving over there win intent to bully him into paying you. . . I don't expect it to end up working out too well. That can backfire waaaay too easily and end up with you being on the wrong end of the law. Best bets: See if you can contact whichever officer is in charge of his unit (rather than his enlisted superior). Threaten legal action. Commence legal action.

matic 240sx · 07-23-2003, 10:05 PM

this is to easy.. call a collection office.. they will make him pay you full amount and he will have to pay them for getting you the money.. all they will do is call his sarge.. and then he will be forced to pay a certain amount each check.. my friend had the same problem.. guy wrote bad check because he was switching bases in two days.. they tracked him down and he payed around 900 for a 700 check.. dumb***... incase same guy he had a tan 95/96 240sx auto.. heh wouldn't be suprise if it was him..

N1ceDrgn · 07-24-2003, 08:49 AM

I'm not sure and I have no way of knowing either. He tried to and then later dropped off the face of the planet. If the guy you're talking about is in the navy, anything is possible. Losers do run in packs most of the time. I hadn't considered a collection agency. That sounds like a good path but how reliable is it? There are people that get those letters and just throw'em out. I am looking to get my money within the remainder of the year. I'd prefer that anyways.

*weirdstyles.net* · 07-24-2003, 08:56 AM

Judge Judy brotha......Judge Juuuuuudy...

Seriously, I have had the same problem, with a 350$ Bass Guitar. I don't have time to jam anymore so I sold it to my homie....two years ago. I have no documentation. Im still good friends with him, but his budget is skin tight, and he's always donating to his mom for the house and ****. I dont bug too much.

BUT he did just get a raise...sooooooooooooo

Still, get the collection agency involved. Make life easier, ever see those hardcore faukers on Discovery? Theyll steal that **** right infront of him... he he he

cliff notes: Judge Judy, Bass, Raise, Agency, Discovery, Hardcore

07-23-2003, 07:22 AM	#1
N1ceDrgn Zilvia Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: SoCal Posts: 259 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Suggestions anyone, about a welch? ..Almost a year ago, I sold off a second engine I had to some one, not to mention any names, 'Darrel Tanap' and well, he welched on paying off the amount agreed on. I wanted to know what the overall opinion would be on how to resolve this. I've been pretty lenient under the circumstances with current events and he even involved his girlfriend but she even backed out. I wanted to put this out and learn what others may have to say about this. __________________ ..working on something that is slowly getting built up and restored..

07-23-2003, 07:55 AM	#3
N1ceDrgn Zilvia Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: SoCal Posts: 259 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I've got the check that he stopped payment on about the same time he got home with the engine, plus several Email messages promising payments that were never delivered. __________________ ..working on something that is slowly getting built up and restored..

07-23-2003, 09:04 AM	#5
N1ceDrgn Zilvia Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: SoCal Posts: 259 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I'm pretty much at the point of getting a group together and either demanding money from his front door or repo'ing the car. __________________ ..working on something that is slowly getting built up and restored..

07-23-2003, 09:05 AM	#6
Dousan_PG Post Whore! Join Date: May 2002 Location: Orange County, California Age: 46 Posts: 16,640 Trader Rating: (23) Rides Gallery: Dousan_PG Feedback Score: 23 reviews	take him to court. well first threaten him with that, see what he does. then really do it. __________________ Aaron Pink GodziRa www.geocities.com/pink_godzira

07-23-2003, 09:15 AM	#7
N1ceDrgn Zilvia Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: SoCal Posts: 259 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	He's affiliated with the military as well, so I was considering that as something else to do. I had started thinking about court but I'm looking for a more immediate solution. So, I was going to gather some friends and S13/14 drivers, make a road trip and try to finish this. __________________ ..working on something that is slowly getting built up and restored..

07-23-2003, 07:51 AM	#2
S13S14S15 Zilvia Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: silvia Posts: 193 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	any written evidence that he owns you money?

07-23-2003, 09:00 AM	#4
CoasTek240 Post Whore! Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: VA Age: 40 Posts: 3,034 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	you gottz screw him over now. u've got some written evidence. hit em hard with it

07-23-2003, 09:19 AM	#8
Dousan_PG Post Whore! Join Date: May 2002 Location: Orange County, California Age: 46 Posts: 16,640 Trader Rating: (23) Rides Gallery: Dousan_PG Feedback Score: 23 reviews	military boy a well?? OOOH bad for him find some info and get ready to report it. warn him first and if not...too bad so sad.. __________________ Aaron Pink GodziRa www.geocities.com/pink_godzira

07-23-2003, 09:37 AM	#9
N1ceDrgn Zilvia Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: SoCal Posts: 259 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Yeah, he's military, a Sea Bee reservist out of Port Hueneme. I've already talked to the Navy there, so they know but they have been less than cooperative on helping. So, that's why I was going to make a visit sometime and either ask for the cash in front of him or get with the local autorities there and make things happen that way. I'm trying to keep things personal. He made it personal by stiffing me, so... __________________ ..working on something that is slowly getting built up and restored..

07-23-2003, 12:05 PM	#10
ISTOTOSAO Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: SB Mts, CA Age: 43 Posts: 546 Trader Rating: (6) Feedback Score: 6 reviews	if you do file anything against him, file it in your home town. that way he has to come to you or default. still trying to get money myself so I know how you feel. only in my case it is my brother in law and over stereo equipment. family always further complicates matters like this. good luck

07-23-2003, 12:06 PM	#11
radhaz Premium Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: SD SoCal / Jax, Fl Posts: 659 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Hmm an employer not wanting to help get involved in a employees personal faulk-up, that's just odd. If the incident happened was work related then I can see them getting involved ie he wanted the engine for a vehicle to be used on-site. But if it's a personal matter then you've pretty much already stated you know what to do, either get it from him personally or get the local authorities involved. Dishonest people suck, they make trading/selling online more difficult than it needs to be. I truly hope you stick this guy for everything he owes you plus the time and effort you've had to invest into this. __________________ Need a 96 driver side window switch. Feel free to pm me with a price

07-23-2003, 12:26 PM	#12
N1ceDrgn Zilvia Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: SoCal Posts: 259 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I put the post out here to learn what others think or had to say. I am going to do what I can to get what he owes me, that's definite. Losers like this are the reason there is so much worry when it comes to online or personal sales. I was trying to be positive about it when I made the sale but I guess losers are everywhere. __________________ ..working on something that is slowly getting built up and restored..

07-23-2003, 09:55 PM	#13
misnomer Nissanaholic! Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Nevada Posts: 2,293 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	"more immediate" solution than court? Driving over there win intent to bully him into paying you. . . I don't expect it to end up working out too well. That can backfire waaaay too easily and end up with you being on the wrong end of the law. Best bets: See if you can contact whichever officer is in charge of his unit (rather than his enlisted superior). Threaten legal action. Commence legal action. __________________ Rowsdower saves us and saves all the world!

07-23-2003, 10:05 PM	#14
matic 240sx Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: las vegas Age: 42 Posts: 798 Trader Rating: (0) Rides Gallery: matic 240sx Feedback Score: 0 reviews	this is to easy.. call a collection office.. they will make him pay you full amount and he will have to pay them for getting you the money.. all they will do is call his sarge.. and then he will be forced to pay a certain amount each check.. my friend had the same problem.. guy wrote bad check because he was switching bases in two days.. they tracked him down and he payed around 900 for a 700 check.. dumb***... incase same guy he had a tan 95/96 240sx auto.. heh wouldn't be suprise if it was him.. __________________ · m á † í ç · after9racing.com

07-24-2003, 08:49 AM	#15
N1ceDrgn Zilvia Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: SoCal Posts: 259 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I'm not sure and I have no way of knowing either. He tried to and then later dropped off the face of the planet. If the guy you're talking about is in the navy, anything is possible. Losers do run in packs most of the time. I hadn't considered a collection agency. That sounds like a good path but how reliable is it? There are people that get those letters and just throw'em out. I am looking to get my money within the remainder of the year. I'd prefer that anyways. __________________ ..working on something that is slowly getting built up and restored..

07-24-2003, 08:56 AM	#16
weirdstyles.net This guy... Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: South Jersey Age: 41 Posts: 889 Trader Rating: (0) Rides Gallery: weirdstyles.net Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Judge Judy brotha......Judge Juuuuuudy... Seriously, I have had the same problem, with a 350$ Bass Guitar. I don't have time to jam anymore so I sold it to my homie....two years ago. I have no documentation. Im still good friends with him, but his budget is skin tight, and he's always donating to his mom for the house and **. I dont bug too much. BUT he did just get a raise...sooooooooooooo Still, get the collection agency involved. Make life easier, ever see those hardcore faukers on Discovery? Theyll steal that right infront of him... he he he cliff notes: Judge Judy, Bass, Raise, Agency, Discovery, Hardcore __________________ My project car... From dust you were born, And to the ashes you return ~ Kill Switch Engage Family Guy Quagmire: Hey, how old are you sweet thang? Connie: 16. Quagmire: 18? Alllll-right! Connie: Mommmm! Quagmire:** I like where this is going, Giggidy giggidy gig-gi-dy!