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s13ways · 07-10-2010, 09:50 PM

I know, One more of these storys. Here's the info. S13 ka24de automatic. Started two day's ago and drove no problem. No it just clicks.
-took out the starter and had it bench tested. (passed flying colors and even
looks brand new still)
-Battery and connections are good (dash lights stay on when I try to turn over)

My three questions
1.)Automatics don't have a starter relay correct?
2.)Thats what the neutral safety switch is for correct?
3.)Would car start with a faulty non working neutral safety switch?

kb1991 · 07-11-2010, 12:35 PM

alternator...

stinky_180 · 07-11-2010, 01:01 PM

is your car in park...

keistyle · 07-11-2010, 01:26 PM

have you tried starting it in neutral.

It might be the relay.

racepar1 · 07-11-2010, 01:28 PM

It is almost certainly the ignition switch. That's like THE most common 240sx problem ever. The crimps on the switch housing come loose and the switch loses connection on the inside. Replace the ignition switch, don't argue...

s13ways · 07-11-2010, 02:01 PM

Car is in park! And tried Neutral

If it was altenator it would still start. Correct?

I will check the switch. Why would my starter go "click" if the switch is not plugged in? Not getting enough volts?

racepar1 · 07-11-2010, 02:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by s13ways

Car is in park! And tried Neutral

If it was altenator it would still start. Correct?

I will check the switch. Why would my starter go "click" if the switch is not plugged in? Not getting enough volts?

Don't check it. Do what I said and go buy a new one. It loses connection inside the switch and doesn't send enough voltage. You won't be able to see anything wrong unless you know what to look for. You obviously don't know what to look for.

r20crazy · 07-11-2010, 02:40 PM

I'm ASSuming you had the battery load tested already? just because lights are on/don't dim doesnt mean battery is good. it may have a surface charge but not the deep charge needed to turn car over.

s13newb · 07-11-2010, 03:13 PM

Check the batt with a volt meter have someone try to turn the motor if volts go under 9.5 -/+ .2 then batt aint good and dun take it to autozone they just check if it holds a charge.

s13newb · 07-11-2010, 03:15 PM

Oh yea dun buy parts dat you dun need test dont guess ..

racepar1 · 07-11-2010, 03:20 PM

Anyone who works on cars for a living raise your hand...

Oh, look I'm the only one with my hand up...

There's no point to testing, I KNOW for a FACT what it is. I've seen this a hundred times. I don't even bother to check stuff anymore when I see this problem, I just sell the customer an ignition switch. I haven't been wrong yet...

This is seriously one of the top two 240 problems ever...

s13ways · 07-11-2010, 03:38 PM

Battery is good. I put in my other 240 and started it right up no problem. I will try switch the ignition switch with my other 240 and see if that works. It's just the whole key part with pigtail correct. Wouldn't it not even go "click" if it was the ignition switch?

Really aprriciate the help. But does anyone know if automatics have a starter relay because mine doesn't but my 5spd does. wierd.

racepar1 · 07-11-2010, 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by s13ways

Battery is good. I put in my other 240 and started it right up no problem. I will try switch the ignition switch with my other 240 and see if that works. It's just the whole key part with pigtail correct. Wouldn't it not even go "click" if it was the ignition switch?

Really aprriciate the help. But does anyone know if automatics have a starter relay because mine doesn't but my 5spd does. wierd.

I'm going to stop helping you if you don't listen to me...

You just need the electrical part, no key or anything. It screws onto the back of the key cylinder with two littloe screws...

s13newb · 07-12-2010, 06:55 PM

Didnt mean to hurt ur feelings man . My bad just trying to help

tommytwo40hands · 07-12-2010, 09:32 PM

http://zilvia.net/f/tech-talk/114304...-location.html

lazysk8er2 · 07-12-2010, 10:07 PM

not gonna lie racepar1 is right lol i have the same problem. the old owner thought it was the starter and changed it twice. its an s13 auto coup with 76k miles hahaha

i came along bought the car for dirt cheap and drove it away lol

change the switch.

doomviillain · 07-12-2010, 11:07 PM

stop trouble shooting, its the ignition switch my friends automatic had the same problem. take racepar1's advice dood

doomviillain · 07-12-2010, 11:18 PM

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Originally Posted by racepar1

Anyone who works on cars for a living raise your hand...

backyard mechanic

s13ways · 07-13-2010, 01:07 AM

Well I put another starter I had laying around in today and it starts right up. I wonder if the switch is staying on like that post Starter relay location .( Link doesn't work). I guess we will see how this starter holds up.

s13ways · 07-13-2010, 10:35 PM

so car starts right up today. Time will tell if its ignition switch

racepar1 · 07-14-2010, 10:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by s13ways

Well I put another starter I had laying around in today and it starts right up. I wonder if the switch is staying on like that post Starter relay location .( Link doesn't work). I guess we will see how this starter holds up.

Quote:

Originally Posted by s13ways

so car starts right up today. Time will tell if its ignition switch

You have no idea how many times we have all heard this before...

Good luck...

240sx123$ · 07-14-2010, 11:04 AM

lol, If people dont wanna listen, you cant force them to.

He'll replace the switch when hes replaced everything else first.

heavenboundkevin · 07-14-2010, 11:40 AM

10 bucks says he replaced the switch, and just said it was the starter to not sound like a dumbass for not listening.

ThomasJamal · 07-14-2010, 01:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by racepar1

There's no point to testing, I KNOW for a FACT what it is. I've seen this a hundred times. I don't even bother to check stuff anymore when I see this problem, I just sell the customer an ignition switch. I haven't been wrong yet...

This is seriously one of the top two 240 problems ever...

So I'm having the same problem and I'm wondering, just for the hell of it, if there is any way to test the switch? Since I'm stuck at home for about 2 more hours (autozone is a long walk) I figure I might as well test the switch so I know for sure when I go to the store.

creyes13491 · 07-14-2010, 01:36 PM

YUPP! respar1 is right. i couldnt agree more. cuz my car has the same problem. its the ignition switch.

ThomasJamal · 07-14-2010, 01:46 PM

I have a manual, by the way. Is this a problem mostly for autos?

racepar1 · 07-14-2010, 03:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ThomasJamal

So I'm having the same problem and I'm wondering, just for the hell of it, if there is any way to test the switch? Since I'm stuck at home for about 2 more hours (autozone is a long walk) I figure I might as well test the switch so I know for sure when I go to the store.

You check the voltage on the start signal wire. It should be about battery voltage when you crank the engine.

s13ways · 07-15-2010, 01:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by heavenboundkevin

10 bucks says he replaced the switch, and just said it was the starter to not sound like a dumbass for not listening.

Haha interweb thug!

I guess we will see if it was the switch. It's been two days and lots of luck so far. I only start it to get other things in the back yard. Just trying to sell it but want it fixed before she goes. Thanks for all the help. By the way not one person answered where the starter realy is for automatics. My guess is they don't have them.

chetacheese · 07-15-2010, 01:59 AM

i have this same issue and ill be another person to have this issue. but ill try racepar1's solution and ill put in my 2 cents.

240sxftww · 07-15-2010, 02:04 AM

id go with the relay or the ignition switch ..

happens at lot on s13s..

is your car lowered? check your harness.

07-10-2010, 09:50 PM	#1
s13ways Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: washington Posts: 12 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	S13 Ka24de "click" (WONT START) I know, One more of these storys. Here's the info. S13 ka24de automatic. Started two day's ago and drove no problem. No it just clicks. -took out the starter and had it bench tested. (passed flying colors and even looks brand new still) -Battery and connections are good (dash lights stay on when I try to turn over) My three questions 1.)Automatics don't have a starter relay correct? 2.)Thats what the neutral safety switch is for correct? 3.)Would car start with a faulty non working neutral safety switch?

07-11-2010, 01:01 PM	#3
stinky_180 Nissanaholic! Join Date: May 2004 Location: Pale Blue Dot Age: 40 Posts: 2,064 Trader Rating: (26) Feedback Score: 26 reviews	is your car in park... __________________ SoCal RallyX Coverage and MTB Ride Reports WheelsDirty

07-11-2010, 01:26 PM	#4
keistyle Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: rancho cucamonga, ca Age: 34 Posts: 1,580 Trader Rating: (20) Feedback Score: 20 reviews	have you tried starting it in neutral. It might be the relay. __________________ Tacoheroi.com

07-14-2010, 01:46 PM	#26
ThomasJamal Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Charlotte, NC Age: 46 Posts: 15 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I have a manual, by the way. Is this a problem mostly for autos? __________________

07-11-2010, 12:35 PM	#2
kb1991 BANNED Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: sac Posts: 6 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	alternator...

07-11-2010, 01:28 PM	#5
racepar1 Post Whore! Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Simi Valley, CA Age: 42 Posts: 9,006 Trader Rating: (106) Rides Gallery: racepar1 Feedback Score: 106 reviews	It is almost certainly the ignition switch. That's like THE most common 240sx problem ever. The crimps on the switch housing come loose and the switch loses connection on the inside. Replace the ignition switch, don't argue...

07-11-2010, 02:01 PM	#6
s13ways Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: washington Posts: 12 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Car is in park! And tried Neutral If it was altenator it would still start. Correct? I will check the switch. Why would my starter go "click" if the switch is not plugged in? Not getting enough volts?

07-11-2010, 02:40 PM	#8
r20crazy Zilvia Addict Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: 90501 Posts: 600 Trader Rating: (41) Feedback Score: 41 reviews	I'm ASSuming you had the battery load tested already? just because lights are on/don't dim doesnt mean battery is good. it may have a surface charge but not the deep charge needed to turn car over.

07-11-2010, 03:13 PM	#9
s13newb Zilvia Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: posted Age: 36 Posts: 287 Trader Rating: (2) Feedback Score: 2 reviews	Check the batt with a volt meter have someone try to turn the motor if volts go under 9.5 -/+ .2 then batt aint good and dun take it to autozone they just check if it holds a charge.

07-11-2010, 03:15 PM	#10
s13newb Zilvia Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: posted Age: 36 Posts: 287 Trader Rating: (2) Feedback Score: 2 reviews	Oh yea dun buy parts dat you dun need test dont guess ..

07-11-2010, 03:20 PM	#11
racepar1 Post Whore! Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Simi Valley, CA Age: 42 Posts: 9,006 Trader Rating: (106) Rides Gallery: racepar1 Feedback Score: 106 reviews	Anyone who works on cars for a living raise your hand... Oh, look I'm the only one with my hand up... There's no point to testing, I KNOW for a FACT what it is. I've seen this a hundred times. I don't even bother to check stuff anymore when I see this problem, I just sell the customer an ignition switch. I haven't been wrong yet... This is seriously one of the top two 240 problems ever...

07-11-2010, 03:38 PM	#12
s13ways Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: washington Posts: 12 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Battery is good. I put in my other 240 and started it right up no problem. I will try switch the ignition switch with my other 240 and see if that works. It's just the whole key part with pigtail correct. Wouldn't it not even go "click" if it was the ignition switch? Really aprriciate the help. But does anyone know if automatics have a starter relay because mine doesn't but my 5spd does. wierd.

07-12-2010, 06:55 PM	#14
s13newb Zilvia Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: posted Age: 36 Posts: 287 Trader Rating: (2) Feedback Score: 2 reviews	Didnt mean to hurt ur feelings man . My bad just trying to help

07-12-2010, 09:32 PM	#15
tommytwo40hands Leaky Injector Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Springfield, MO Age: 36 Posts: 145 Trader Rating: (2) Feedback Score: 2 reviews	http://zilvia.net/f/tech-talk/114304...-location.html

07-12-2010, 11:07 PM	#17
doomviillain Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: North Hollywood CA Age: 35 Posts: 420 Trader Rating: (5) Feedback Score: 5 reviews	stop trouble shooting, its the ignition switch my friends automatic had the same problem. take racepar1's advice dood

07-13-2010, 01:07 AM	#19
s13ways Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: washington Posts: 12 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Well I put another starter I had laying around in today and it starts right up. I wonder if the switch is staying on like that post Starter relay location .( Link doesn't work). I guess we will see how this starter holds up.

07-13-2010, 10:35 PM	#20
s13ways Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: washington Posts: 12 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	so car starts right up today. Time will tell if its ignition switch

07-14-2010, 11:04 AM	#22
240sx123$ BANNED Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: PA Posts: 603 Trader Rating: (2) Feedback Score: 2 reviews	lol, If people dont wanna listen, you cant force them to. He'll replace the switch when hes replaced everything else first.

07-14-2010, 01:36 PM	#25
creyes13491 Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: north hills Posts: 381 Trader Rating: (30) Feedback Score: 30 reviews	YUPP! respar1 is right. i couldnt agree more. cuz my car has the same problem. its the ignition switch.

07-15-2010, 01:59 AM	#29
chetacheese Zilvia Addict Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: in my car Posts: 752 Trader Rating: (21) Feedback Score: 21 reviews	i have this same issue and ill be another person to have this issue. but ill try racepar1's solution and ill put in my 2 cents.

07-15-2010, 02:04 AM	#30
240sxftww Leaky Injector Join Date: May 2010 Location: CA Age: 35 Posts: 100 Trader Rating: (2) Feedback Score: 2 reviews	id go with the relay or the ignition switch .. happens at lot on s13s.. is your car lowered? check your harness.