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BuudWeizErr · 08-04-2003, 06:20 PM

Just installed my Koyo and my Black Magic fan and now my car won't shut off... grr.

I don't know if it's because of the fan or if my wiring got messed up when I was working on it.

Heres the deal. With my old fan and radiator, the fan had 2 wires, + and -, that's it. So I used a Radio Shack ignition relay so that it would run when the car was running. That relay had +12in, +12out, ignition in and ground out.

Now, with the black magic, the ignition relay is built-in. So, I hooked up +12, +12 with a circuit breaker, ground and ignition (or switched).

Now my car starts and runs beautifully, extra now with that weight off the water pump, but now it won't shut off.

HELP!

Extra Info:
89 Hatch, Redtop SR, wiring done by phase2.

radrex88 · 08-04-2003, 06:34 PM

Did the thing not come with instructions, you would think it did If you got it brand new. Sorry, just had to ask, I wish I could see a picture of what it looks like, Im more of a visual person.

BuudWeizErr · 08-04-2003, 06:43 PM

Here are the instructions

http://www.flex-a-lite.com/auto/instructions/150.pdf

BuudWeizErr · 08-04-2003, 07:25 PM

Now the car won't start at all.

My clock is on, the seatbelts move, go to start it and nothing.

misnomer · 08-04-2003, 08:15 PM

Trippy

Disconnect the fan, see what that does for you.

radrex88 · 08-04-2003, 08:40 PM

Im just as confused as you, I cant see that you did anything wrong, the only thing I can think of is that you had a short in the wiring somewhere and it blew a fuse. Just check all the fuses and wiring for shorts.

BuudWeizErr · 08-04-2003, 08:43 PM

It does nothing.

I have everything apart now. Just going to tow it to phase2 I guess.

Probably going to pick up a battery relocation kit on the way there and get my battery out of the engine bay. Who knows what the problem up there is.

As I'm sure most SR people with GReddy/Blitz/HKS FMIC kits with batteries still in the bay will agree, there is no room up there to work which sucks, major. As well as it being a ROYAL PITA to hook up the terminals too.

Hell, for all I know it was just the terminals being loose, but I don't know for sure, so whatever.

radrex88 · 08-04-2003, 11:00 PM

Sorry I couldnt be more help, hope you get her fixed in a hurry.

MarvynDT · 08-05-2003, 08:15 AM

I believe you initially wired the relay to the new fan incorrectly if your car won't shut off. That is a common effect when incorrectly wiring a relay to your 12+ switched ignition.

Now you say your car won't start? Do you hear any clicking sounds from the engine bay? You probably blew a fuse or a broken relay.

08-04-2003, 06:20 PM	#1
BuudWeizErr Zilvia Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: socal. Age: 42 Posts: 213 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Car won't shut off Just installed my Koyo and my Black Magic fan and now my car won't shut off... grr. I don't know if it's because of the fan or if my wiring got messed up when I was working on it. Heres the deal. With my old fan and radiator, the fan had 2 wires, + and -, that's it. So I used a Radio Shack ignition relay so that it would run when the car was running. That relay had +12in, +12out, ignition in and ground out. Now, with the black magic, the ignition relay is built-in. So, I hooked up +12, +12 with a circuit breaker, ground and ignition (or switched). Now my car starts and runs beautifully, extra now with that weight off the water pump, but now it won't shut off. HELP! Extra Info: 89 Hatch, Redtop SR, wiring done by phase2. __________________ 1989 Nissan 240SX, SR20DET sillbeer.COM : phase2motortrend : Garage Works

08-04-2003, 06:34 PM	#2
radrex88 Leaky Injector Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Japan Age: 44 Posts: 113 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Did the thing not come with instructions, you would think it did If you got it brand new. Sorry, just had to ask, I wish I could see a picture of what it looks like, Im more of a visual person. __________________ Signature exceeds 400x200 picture size limits set by the User Agreement.

08-04-2003, 06:43 PM	#3
BuudWeizErr Zilvia Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: socal. Age: 42 Posts: 213 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Here are the instructions http://www.flex-a-lite.com/auto/instructions/150.pdf __________________ 1989 Nissan 240SX, SR20DET sillbeer.COM : phase2motortrend : Garage Works

08-04-2003, 07:25 PM	#4
BuudWeizErr Zilvia Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: socal. Age: 42 Posts: 213 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Now the car won't start at all. My clock is on, the seatbelts move, go to start it and nothing. __________________ 1989 Nissan 240SX, SR20DET sillbeer.COM : phase2motortrend : Garage Works

08-04-2003, 08:15 PM	#5
misnomer Nissanaholic! Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Nevada Posts: 2,293 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Trippy Disconnect the fan, see what that does for you. __________________ Rowsdower saves us and saves all the world!

08-04-2003, 08:40 PM	#6
radrex88 Leaky Injector Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Japan Age: 44 Posts: 113 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Im just as confused as you, I cant see that you did anything wrong, the only thing I can think of is that you had a short in the wiring somewhere and it blew a fuse. Just check all the fuses and wiring for shorts. __________________ Signature exceeds 400x200 picture size limits set by the User Agreement.

08-04-2003, 08:43 PM	#7
BuudWeizErr Zilvia Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: socal. Age: 42 Posts: 213 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	It does nothing. I have everything apart now. Just going to tow it to phase2 I guess. Probably going to pick up a battery relocation kit on the way there and get my battery out of the engine bay. Who knows what the problem up there is. As I'm sure most SR people with GReddy/Blitz/HKS FMIC kits with batteries still in the bay will agree, there is no room up there to work which sucks, major. As well as it being a ROYAL PITA to hook up the terminals too. Hell, for all I know it was just the terminals being loose, but I don't know for sure, so whatever. __________________ 1989 Nissan 240SX, SR20DET sillbeer.COM : phase2motortrend : Garage Works

08-04-2003, 11:00 PM	#8
radrex88 Leaky Injector Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Japan Age: 44 Posts: 113 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Sorry I couldnt be more help, hope you get her fixed in a hurry. __________________ Signature exceeds 400x200 picture size limits set by the User Agreement.

08-05-2003, 08:15 AM	#9
MarvynDT Leaky Injector Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: New Jersey Posts: 75 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I believe you initially wired the relay to the new fan incorrectly if your car won't shut off. That is a common effect when incorrectly wiring a relay to your 12+ switched ignition. Now you say your car won't start? Do you hear any clicking sounds from the engine bay? You probably blew a fuse or a broken relay.