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drpimper746 · 11-06-2003, 07:42 PM

i haven't attepmted the swap yet but i have ordered it. i wa wondering if i should have a import shop that is charging 800 for labor do it or the mechanics at my work do it. i work at a dealership. what problems is the most common. i heard it drops write in but u have to lenthen the harness. what is the truth. what mods have to be done.

thelinja · 11-06-2003, 08:03 PM

If you don't have any experience, or the tools to do it, then I wouldn't recommend swapping it yourself. What dealership do you work at?
As far as modification, I think the engine fits in fine, without changing anything. You can also use the stock ds and diff. And I can't see why you would have to lengthen the harness. The only reason I can think of is because the ECU would be located on the other side of the car when compared to where it was mounted in the Silvia.

TBreu007 · 11-06-2003, 09:58 PM

S14 to S14 is totally different from S13 to S13, or any other swap. With the S14 to S14 swap, you have to rearrange the pins in the M63 (I think) 48 pin connector under the dash by the ECU. There isn't a lot of documentation in doing this yet, so it isn't something I would recommend the average person to do. If they're quoting you $800, I would ask if they've done a S14 SR into a S14 before.

drpimper746 · 11-07-2003, 01:55 PM

i work at Ray Skillman. the machanic knows about everything about the average motors but i'm not sure if i was wanting him to attempt it if there were problems.

popey · 11-07-2003, 11:27 PM

research and find the austrailian FSM for the s14 motor and start comparing the pinouts to the USDM factory S14 FSM.

-the original website that use to have the FSM went down, I know some others have it hosted - search here and www.freshalloy.com

noodl35 · 11-08-2003, 11:21 AM

where did you get the motor from and how much?

drpimper746 · 11-08-2003, 11:24 AM

a friend of mine has a shop called Full Blown Racing (fullblownracing.com) and he has a motor distibuter locally im just waiting on him to get get the motors. i am paying 2500 for a clip.

noodl35 · 11-21-2003, 08:42 AM

have you gotten the front clip yet?

hadokenny · 11-21-2003, 02:32 PM

hmmm... my swap + auto to manual cost about 1.5k....800 bux to swap in an s14 sr is a bit cheap and i would have doubts in quality of labor for that kind of price...

formeRiceR · 11-21-2003, 02:47 PM

why don't you just take the engine out at your shop on a sunday or something and drop the SR in, and then have HeavyThrottle do the conversions on the SR and KA harness (250$ I think) and then just install the new haress and troubleshoot from there....might be over simplfing it a bit but oh well....

Spins · 11-22-2003, 01:06 PM

I paid $700 plus my ka engine/tranny to have my s14 sr installed into my s14. And yes the installer had wiring problems. Not alot of info. on the subject.

11-06-2003, 07:42 PM	#1
drpimper746 Leaky Injector Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: indy Posts: 74 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	s14 sr20det swap into a s14 i haven't attepmted the swap yet but i have ordered it. i wa wondering if i should have a import shop that is charging 800 for labor do it or the mechanics at my work do it. i work at a dealership. what problems is the most common. i heard it drops write in but u have to lenthen the harness. what is the truth. what mods have to be done.

11-06-2003, 09:58 PM	#3
TBreu007 Leaky Injector Join Date: May 2003 Location: Fat, drunk and stupid is no way to go through life, son... Age: 48 Posts: 95 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	S14 to S14 is totally different from S13 to S13, or any other swap. With the S14 to S14 swap, you have to rearrange the pins in the M63 (I think) 48 pin connector under the dash by the ECU. There isn't a lot of documentation in doing this yet, so it isn't something I would recommend the average person to do. If they're quoting you $800, I would ask if they've done a S14 SR into a S14 before. __________________ '92 240sx Improved Touring "S" race car '89 240sx etc., etc.

11-21-2003, 02:32 PM	#9
hadokenny Leaky Injector Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: LA Age: 41 Posts: 81 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	hmmm... my swap + auto to manual cost about 1.5k....800 bux to swap in an s14 sr is a bit cheap and i would have doubts in quality of labor for that kind of price... __________________ www.cardomain.com/id/hadokenny

11-21-2003, 02:47 PM	#10
formeRiceR Zilvia Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Mass Age: 43 Posts: 280 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	why don't you just take the engine out at your shop on a sunday or something and drop the SR in, and then have HeavyThrottle do the conversions on the SR and KA harness (250$ I think) and then just install the new haress and troubleshoot from there....might be over simplfing it a bit but oh well.... __________________ "Street racers don't need girls." -Lonely Driver Learning about cars one FLAME at a time ... (thanks to TNORD)

11-06-2003, 08:03 PM	#2
thelinja Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: New Jersey Posts: 1,466 Trader Rating: (3) Rides Gallery: thelinja Feedback Score: 3 reviews	If you don't have any experience, or the tools to do it, then I wouldn't recommend swapping it yourself. What dealership do you work at? As far as modification, I think the engine fits in fine, without changing anything. You can also use the stock ds and diff. And I can't see why you would have to lengthen the harness. The only reason I can think of is because the ECU would be located on the other side of the car when compared to where it was mounted in the Silvia.

11-07-2003, 01:55 PM	#4
drpimper746 Leaky Injector Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: indy Posts: 74 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	i work at Ray Skillman. the machanic knows about everything about the average motors but i'm not sure if i was wanting him to attempt it if there were problems.

11-07-2003, 11:27 PM	#5
popey Zilvia Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Texas Age: 43 Posts: 191 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	research and find the austrailian FSM for the s14 motor and start comparing the pinouts to the USDM factory S14 FSM. -the original website that use to have the FSM went down, I know some others have it hosted - search here and www.freshalloy.com

11-08-2003, 11:21 AM	#6
noodl35 Zilvia Addict Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Oklahoma City Age: 42 Posts: 715 Trader Rating: (11) Feedback Score: 11 reviews	where did you get the motor from and how much?

11-08-2003, 11:24 AM	#7
drpimper746 Leaky Injector Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: indy Posts: 74 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	a friend of mine has a shop called Full Blown Racing (fullblownracing.com) and he has a motor distibuter locally im just waiting on him to get get the motors. i am paying 2500 for a clip.

11-21-2003, 08:42 AM	#8
noodl35 Zilvia Addict Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Oklahoma City Age: 42 Posts: 715 Trader Rating: (11) Feedback Score: 11 reviews	have you gotten the front clip yet?

11-22-2003, 01:06 PM	#11
Spins Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Davie Posts: 14 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I paid $700 plus my ka engine/tranny to have my s14 sr installed into my s14. And yes the installer had wiring problems. Not alot of info. on the subject.