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BustedS13 · 05-20-2011, 02:25 PM

Honda. never again. has anybody else developed irrational hatred for certain makes or models?

driftsilvias13 · 05-20-2011, 02:25 PM

VW or Audi never ever

Also any MBZ

Fearell · 05-20-2011, 02:28 PM

I'm with you on Audi, VW and Benz. I had nothing but problems with my A4 and S4.. I bought them before I started working on them all the time. VW just makes a shit product period.

Corbic · 05-20-2011, 02:52 PM

Toyota. Shit company, shit policies and they have not produced anything worthwhile since the FJ80 Landcruiser and MKIV Supra.

Family bought a brand new mini-van, by 10k miles it was blowing smoke and oil was turning to sludge, they refused to warranty it. They cited that having the oil changed at a local general repair shop and not by a Toyota dealer voided the warranty and because they "never had any other issues like this".

Two years later - Engine Oil Gelling recall - fuckfaces.

I hate how people leg hump them for accomplishments from the late 80's, despite the more recent rotted frame rails, oil slugging V6s, stuck accelerators, bad airbags and blown v8s.

shahabshaukat · 05-20-2011, 03:00 PM

Saab or VW, never again!!!

I dunno about any other toyotas but by 06 corolla has about 180,000 on the clock and has never required anything but regular maintenance. Still drives great and gives me AWESOME gas mileage!

curbhuggerrps13 · 05-20-2011, 03:03 PM

hyundai, ford, honda, and mazda

driftsilvias13 · 05-20-2011, 03:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Corbic

Toyota. Shit company, shit policies and they have not produced anything worthwhile since the FJ80 Landcruiser and MKIV Supra.

Family bought a brand new mini-van, by 10k miles it was blowing smoke and oil was turning to sludge, they refused to warranty it. They cited that having the oil changed at a local general repair shop and not by a Toyota dealer voided the warranty and because they "never had any other issues like this".

Two years later - Engine Oil Gelling recall - fuckfaces.

I hate how people leg hump them for accomplishments from the late 80's, despite the more recent rotted frame rails, oil slugging V6s, stuck accelerators, bad airbags and blown v8s.

Hmm I am the exact opposite of you. My family has always been a Toyota/Lexus family since the 1980s. None of them EVER gave us problems. Even the new ones.

SBCsx · 05-20-2011, 03:17 PM

What are the reasons why you guys hate these brands? Did you guys buy used or new? Just wondering cause I'm in the market to purchase a new car.

Gizmo_S13 · 05-20-2011, 03:23 PM

VW, fucking horrible cars to work on and one thing breaks leads to the car blowing up or trying to commit suicide.

BoostSlideWayz · 05-20-2011, 03:46 PM

I wouldn't know, my cars im happy with.. haha although my 86 celica gts is really messing up but its a pretty used up car, wear and tear usually doesn't determine the car or its over all quality of the whole company. I mean im sure there are a lot of nissans that haven't been reliable or other might hate em for some reason.

I think generally people just get that bad apple of the bunch have a bad experience and never go to that company. Ive seen people with hondas that are soo reliable and never have a problem.. then on the other hand ive seen hondas not last much more than 200 k and just completely go to shit. I personally love toyota, my mk4 has like 250k on the chassis but the engine has been replaced the previous owner says. but the car drives i would imagine just like when it was off the show room. toyota has some pretty good quality but so does nissan.

I would have to say my least fav would be ford and honda just because so many people have hondas.. im kind of a trend hater.

Matej · 05-20-2011, 03:47 PM

Chevrolet and Ford.

My family has had two of each. Yuck.

LimeLite Racing · 05-20-2011, 03:50 PM

Would probably never own another European car at all. BMW took a dive, VW took a dive. The only two experiences it took for me.

gearhead55 · 05-20-2011, 03:51 PM

VOLKSWAGEN. my VR6 GTI was a lot of fun until fucking everything broke. I got sick of fixing that shit.

who would have thought that a car nearly as old as I am with a swapped japanese motor and a bunch of mismatched aftermarket parts would be more reliable than a 2001 german hatch.

knock on wood.

*nighthawk48* · 05-20-2011, 03:58 PM

Saab blows and audi sucks

usdm180sx · 05-20-2011, 04:57 PM

Porsche. Shit breaks down all day long

KiLLeR2001 · 05-20-2011, 05:03 PM

BMW. I'm not signing the paper where it states you must drive like a douche in order to own the car.

edit: I'll probably only own Nissan and Porsche.

<3 911 turbo

yokotas13 · 05-20-2011, 05:06 PM

VW for me. other than that, im pretty open
240s are pretty high on the list now though

upsdude · 05-20-2011, 05:09 PM

is it just me or are the domestic cars starting to look better than the imports? i really like ford's line up right now.

raz0rbladez909 · 05-20-2011, 05:30 PM

Any Nissan newer than 02, VW, BMW, MBZ, Audi everything I've seen from these companies have shown significant problem. I had purchased my 08 350z brand new and had to take it back to the dealership at least 5 times for the same issue, got tired of taking it in so I ended up lemoning it, my sisters sentra blew a headgasket at 45k miles, another friend of mine had significant tranny issues in his 07 350z. Mercedes has never impressed me and both cars my parents owned ended up being money pits, parts are highly overpriced, and each had several different electrical problems. VW's seem to have a bunch of electrical problems as well.

thematz · 05-20-2011, 05:31 PM

Saturns are huge piles of junk. I bought one with less than 20k miles on it for the wife and have had to replace more on it than the 240.

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boniomario · 05-20-2011, 05:34 PM

CHRYSLER, especially Jeep have one now it's been nothing but a pain in my ass !!!

PANGES · 05-20-2011, 05:36 PM

Car makes that I wouldn't buy from again? Mazda, Mitsubishi, and most likely Honda.

Quote:

Originally Posted by upsdude

is it just me or are the domestic cars starting to look better than the imports? i really like ford's line up right now.

I Agree. I've never ever thought about buying a Ford aside from the 03/04 Cobras; however, I've really been liking the direction Ford has been going. The past few days, I've been thinking about getting rid of my 2011 Civic SI next year and picking up a 2011 (or 2012) Mustang GT... that's sort of odd for me, considering I used to own an RB25 240sx, an Evo IX, Evo VIII, and now an SI. lol.

I've never owned any sort of domestic before, but now might be the time to try.

drift freaq · 05-20-2011, 05:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by raz0rbladez909

Any Nissan newer than 02, VW, BMW, MBZ, Audi everything I've seen from these companies have shown significant problem. I had purchased my 08 350z brand new and had to take it back to the dealership at least 5 times for the same issue, got tired of taking it in so I ended up lemoning it, my sisters sentra blew a headgasket at 45k miles, another friend of mine had significant tranny issues in his 07 350z. Mercedes has never impressed me and both cars my parents owned ended up being money pits, parts are highly overpriced, and each had several different electrical problems. VW's seem to have a bunch of electrical problems as well.

Says the guy driving an EVO! LOL Mitsubushi. Wait till it starts breaking on you and it will.

Yes I would never own a Mitsushitty, they fall apart its a known fact in the industry and however great EVO's can be they will fall apart to.

Sorry razorblade, you just need to face the cold hard truth.

I would say Honda, though there is one Honda I would own an NSX. Oh and Hyundai.

Thing is quite a few manufacturers I would not own, except for one or two cars from them.
Chevrolet for Instance,I could consider a Vette.
Ford , the new Mustangs are not bad.

Porsche? Used maybe.
Ferrari , well that is a Heritage thing. LOL
BMW, E30 or E36.

Most likely not on the Toyota front even though I did own a SW20 MR2.

RichieSR20 · 05-20-2011, 05:56 PM

Mazda. I can't stand rotary engines... My 13b was a bigger money pit than my entire 240...

jdm240sx122 · 05-20-2011, 06:11 PM

Mopar= junk

Had a dodge Durango.... Undersized brakes. Burned oil. Trans problems before 100k miles. Handled like a boat. 10 times heavier than it prob should of been.

Also had a friend with a jeep. Nothin but head aches.

raz0rbladez909 · 05-20-2011, 06:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by drift freaq

Says the guy driving an EVO! LOL Mitsubushi. Wait till it starts breaking on you and it will.

Yes I would never own a Mitsushitty, they fall apart its a known fact in the industry and however great EVO's can be they will fall apart to.

Sorry razorblade, you just need to face the cold hard truth

Ooookay, I just voiced my opinion on ownership of certain vehicles based on prior experiences on either my part or family members. Sorry if you're offended by what I've said about Nissan and feel the need to defend them anytime you get the opportunity. I haven't noticed any major issues out of all the evolutions and usually any problems are insignifant at best, yes I'm aware of them voiding warranties on modded cars and what not but if you are buying an evo it's usually not going to stay stock. I never said Mitsubishi was the greatest thing out there, in fact there isn't anything else that Mitsubishi makes that I would want to buy except for the Evo. To date I haven't had one single problem, and I don't doubt that I won't have any for quite some time. The Evo's actually hold their value quite well and there is a reason for it no matter what YOU think about them, can't say the same for my 350z when it dropped 10k of its value in less than a year, and guess what if I want to go take it to the track I don't have to buy an extra oil cooler and buy upgraded brake pads before doing so unlike the 370z.

tqstarburst · 05-20-2011, 06:17 PM

Ford are POS.

deolio · 05-20-2011, 06:20 PM

a lot, but there are some that the manufacturers make that i would buy because the model is cool, but in general the brand sucks.
vw
mitsubishi
ford
bmw
audi
porsche
jeep/chrysler/dodge
saab

jdm240sx122 · 05-20-2011, 06:20 PM

^Agreed... Lol

g00se · 05-20-2011, 06:49 PM

bmw = german trash (bought it new)

My problems with the e46- almost immediately after the warranty and dealer service expired btw.

cracked subframe,
VANOS seals deteriorating to dust
replacing window regulator for the 5th time ( keep in mind I have a coupe and have been buying only dealer parts @ $160 a piece)
cracked radiator expansion tank
having to almost pull the engine just to change the F)&*^ oil pan gasket

honestly the only pluses are the bmw forum and the supporting vendors like bavarian auto who put out super clear DIYs

05-20-2011, 02:25 PM	#1
BustedS13 Post Whore! Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Phoenix AZ Age: 40 Posts: 10,287 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	what car brands will you never buy again? Honda. never again. has anybody else developed irrational hatred for certain makes or models? __________________

05-20-2011, 02:25 PM	#2
driftsilvias13 Nissanaholic! Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 2,297 Trader Rating: (54) Feedback Score: 54 reviews	VW or Audi never ever Also any MBZ __________________

05-20-2011, 02:28 PM	#3
Fearell Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Annapolis MD Age: 37 Posts: 489 Trader Rating: (8) Feedback Score: 8 reviews	I'm with you on Audi, VW and Benz. I had nothing but problems with my A4 and S4.. I bought them before I started working on them all the time. VW just makes a shit product period. __________________ IG: slideonkranze

05-20-2011, 03:00 PM	#5
shahabshaukat Zilvia Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: wpb Posts: 252 Trader Rating: (5) Feedback Score: 5 reviews	Saab or VW, never again!!! I dunno about any other toyotas but by 06 corolla has about 180,000 on the clock and has never required anything but regular maintenance. Still drives great and gives me AWESOME gas mileage! __________________ I just can't get away from the s13......it keeps pulling me back in

05-20-2011, 03:17 PM	#8
SBCsx Zilvia Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: CA Age: 36 Posts: 188 Trader Rating: (5) Feedback Score: 5 reviews	What are the reasons why you guys hate these brands? Did you guys buy used or new? Just wondering cause I'm in the market to purchase a new car. __________________

05-20-2011, 02:52 PM	#4
Corbic Post Whore! Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: US Age: 41 Posts: 8,226 Trader Rating: (8) Feedback Score: 8 reviews	Toyota. Shit company, shit policies and they have not produced anything worthwhile since the FJ80 Landcruiser and MKIV Supra. Family bought a brand new mini-van, by 10k miles it was blowing smoke and oil was turning to sludge, they refused to warranty it. They cited that having the oil changed at a local general repair shop and not by a Toyota dealer voided the warranty and because they "never had any other issues like this". Two years later - Engine Oil Gelling recall - fuckfaces. I hate how people leg hump them for accomplishments from the late 80's, despite the more recent rotted frame rails, oil slugging V6s, stuck accelerators, bad airbags and blown v8s.

05-20-2011, 03:03 PM	#6
curbhuggerrps13 Zilvia Addict Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: fort drum Posts: 798 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	hyundai, ford, honda, and mazda

05-20-2011, 03:23 PM	#9
Gizmo_S13 Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: (909) Age: 36 Posts: 1,055 Trader Rating: (6) Feedback Score: 6 reviews	VW, fucking horrible cars to work on and one thing breaks leads to the car blowing up or trying to commit suicide. __________________ Hachiroku, ATTACK! ATTACK! ATTACK!!!

05-20-2011, 03:46 PM	#10
BoostSlideWayz Nissanaholic! Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Lebec Age: 36 Posts: 1,686 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	I wouldn't know, my cars im happy with.. haha although my 86 celica gts is really messing up but its a pretty used up car, wear and tear usually doesn't determine the car or its over all quality of the whole company. I mean im sure there are a lot of nissans that haven't been reliable or other might hate em for some reason. I think generally people just get that bad apple of the bunch have a bad experience and never go to that company. Ive seen people with hondas that are soo reliable and never have a problem.. then on the other hand ive seen hondas not last much more than 200 k and just completely go to shit. I personally love toyota, my mk4 has like 250k on the chassis but the engine has been replaced the previous owner says. but the car drives i would imagine just like when it was off the show room. toyota has some pretty good quality but so does nissan. I would have to say my least fav would be ford and honda just because so many people have hondas.. im kind of a trend hater. __________________ 1994 toyota supra...... n-a D= 1992 nissan 240sx KA24E-T fully Built =D

05-20-2011, 03:47 PM	#11
Matej Post Whore! Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: N/A Posts: 9,423 Trader Rating: (39) Feedback Score: 39 reviews	Chevrolet and Ford. My family has had two of each. Yuck.

05-20-2011, 03:50 PM	#12
LimeLite Racing Post Whore! Join Date: May 2007 Location: Eugene! Posts: 3,197 Trader Rating: (24) Rides Gallery: LimeLite Racing Feedback Score: 24 reviews	Would probably never own another European car at all. BMW took a dive, VW took a dive. The only two experiences it took for me. __________________ Drift.

05-20-2011, 03:51 PM	#13
gearhead55 Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: VENICE, CA Posts: 1,363 Trader Rating: (4) Feedback Score: 4 reviews	VOLKSWAGEN. my VR6 GTI was a lot of fun until fucking everything broke. I got sick of fixing that shit. who would have thought that a car nearly as old as I am with a swapped japanese motor and a bunch of mismatched aftermarket parts would be more reliable than a 2001 german hatch. knock on wood.

05-20-2011, 03:58 PM	#14
nighthawk48 Premium Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: NY Posts: 578 Trader Rating: (26) Feedback Score: 26 reviews	Saab blows and audi sucks

05-20-2011, 04:57 PM	#15
usdm180sx Post Whore! Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: 562 Posts: 4,807 Trader Rating: (5) Rides Gallery: usdm180sx Feedback Score: 5 reviews	Porsche. Shit breaks down all day long __________________ -Norm!

05-20-2011, 05:03 PM	#16
KiLLeR2001 Post Whore! Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: オーランドフロリダ Posts: 7,955 Trader Rating: (46) Feedback Score: 46 reviews	BMW. I'm not signing the paper where it states you must drive like a douche in order to own the car. edit: I'll probably only own Nissan and Porsche. <3 911 turbo __________________

05-20-2011, 05:06 PM	#17
yokotas13 Post Whore! Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Milford, CT Age: 40 Posts: 10,519 Trader Rating: (8) Rides Gallery: yokotas13 Feedback Score: 8 reviews	VW for me. other than that, im pretty open 240s are pretty high on the list now though __________________ 2015 Subaru Outback Overlander - Wagonofdoom

05-20-2011, 05:09 PM	#18
upsdude Post Whore! Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Fontana (the good part) Posts: 2,721 Trader Rating: (46) Rides Gallery: upsdude Feedback Score: 46 reviews	is it just me or are the domestic cars starting to look better than the imports? i really like ford's line up right now.

05-20-2011, 05:31 PM	#20
thematz Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Tn Age: 36 Posts: 5 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Saturns are huge piles of junk. I bought one with less than 20k miles on it for the wife and have had to replace more on it than the 240. Sent from my DROIDX using Tapatalk

05-20-2011, 05:34 PM	#21
boniomario Zilvia Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Somewhere in this world Posts: 169 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	CHRYSLER, especially Jeep have one now it's been nothing but a pain in my ass !!!

05-20-2011, 05:56 PM	#24
RichieSR20 Zilvia Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Temecula Age: 31 Posts: 223 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Mazda. I can't stand rotary engines... My 13b was a bigger money pit than my entire 240...

05-20-2011, 06:11 PM	#25
jdm240sx122 Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: SanDiego Age: 30 Posts: 338 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	Mopar= junk Had a dodge Durango.... Undersized brakes. Burned oil. Trans problems before 100k miles. Handled like a boat. 10 times heavier than it prob should of been. Also had a friend with a jeep. Nothin but head aches.

05-20-2011, 06:17 PM	#27
tqstarburst Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Texas Age: 33 Posts: 1,314 Trader Rating: (2) Feedback Score: 2 reviews	Ford are POS.

05-20-2011, 06:20 PM	#28
deolio Post Whore! Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Sacramento, CA Age: 36 Posts: 4,702 Trader Rating: (13) Rides Gallery: deolio Feedback Score: 13 reviews	a lot, but there are some that the manufacturers make that i would buy because the model is cool, but in general the brand sucks. vw mitsubishi ford bmw audi porsche jeep/chrysler/dodge saab __________________

05-20-2011, 06:49 PM	#30
g00se Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: CA Posts: 383 Trader Rating: (7) Feedback Score: 7 reviews	bmw = german trash (bought it new) My problems with the e46- almost immediately after the warranty and dealer service expired btw. cracked subframe, VANOS seals deteriorating to dust replacing window regulator for the 5th time ( keep in mind I have a coupe and have been buying only dealer parts @ $160 a piece) cracked radiator expansion tank having to almost pull the engine just to change the F)&*^ oil pan gasket honestly the only pluses are the bmw forum and the supporting vendors like bavarian auto who put out super clear DIYs