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driftz240sx · 01-21-2004, 04:43 PM

My friend says he is going to do an AWD conversion for his 1996 se-r. Is this possible or does it need to be a custom job?

wherezmytofu · 01-21-2004, 05:11 PM

yay custom but possible, the se-r used the sr engine, u can get an awd sr with an awd transmission, dump the stock eshasut and stock gas tank, and run the driveshaft and diff. got to custom out he diff..and alot of other stuff but it is "possible", more probuble tho is he is a lieing sack fo shit and u need to curb stomp his teeth out.

driftz240sx · 01-21-2004, 06:07 PM

He says his brother has done the conversion and his dad. I think hes a lying sack o shit too. He always has to be right on everything. He thinks that the se-r could woop a 240 on the track and strip. Dont the se-r's have like 125 hp and tq.

hookedup240 · 01-21-2004, 06:19 PM

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Originally Posted by driftz240sx

He says his brother has done the conversion and his dad. I think hes a lying sack o shit too. He always has to be right on everything. He thinks that the se-r could woop a 240 on the track and strip. Dont the se-r's have like 125 hp and tq.

anything is possible with enough money.

Also take him to the track and find out.

Chernobyl · 01-21-2004, 06:21 PM

Stock SER will probably beat a stock 240 in drag and auto-x. Given equal skilled drivers.

AWD is better attempted with a Stanza chassis.

driftz240sx · 01-21-2004, 06:34 PM

You think a stock se-r could beat a 240 in both? They only have like 125 hp and they are FWD. I told him to go to the last autocrossing but he made some bullshit excuse. If he doesnt go to the next one then hes chicken shit.

Chernobyl · 01-21-2004, 06:48 PM

140-145 hp, and they are lighter. I've driven both, SER is faster stock.

The ROMAN · 01-21-2004, 07:17 PM

240's are still cooler thou - Dorifto

- can't do that with a se-r

wherezmytofu · 01-21-2004, 08:52 PM

u mean the current 6 speed se-r? or like the old se-r?

*AceInHole* · 01-22-2004, 12:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Chernobyl

140-145 hp, and they are lighter. I've driven both, SER is faster stock.

heh... i've driven a B13 SER and B15 SE and it's a tossup. I was faster in the 15 but the 13 felt more fun..... i'm not so sure the B13 is THAT much faster than a stock 240, if at all. Just from limited experiences I'd say it'd be a toss up.

camppain · 01-22-2004, 04:38 AM

The b13 is way faster than a b15 1/4 times for a b13 stock are as low as 15.1 to 15.7 b15's stock are 16.3 (not to sure could be higher in this) to 16.7. B14's go from 15.9- 16.3 I ran a 16.1 when I swapped mine to stick auto was a 16.7. And yes a stock b13 will beat a 240 seen it done many many times. Lighter, rev happy and just better at it. Also seen them beat stock s14's esp since those are heavier.

And I haven't heard of anyone doing a awd setup on a se-r yet. I frequent the sr20forums. Has not been done yet at least not to my knowwledge.

driftz240sx · 01-22-2004, 04:42 AM

How is there torque curve? I wouldn't think they could launch off the line very well.

98sr20ve · 01-22-2004, 07:23 AM

Stock for stock the SE-R in any of its forms is a pretty good car. They all can be low 15 secs cars with a good driver and 14's is easy with just a few mods. The 240 is clearly a better car to mod extensively. Autocrossing is purely based on driver between the two. I own a NA 190whp Sentra SE and I walk away from mild turbo cars on a roadcourse all the time. I even chase down Z06's and SS's and stuff like that. Light weight helps a lot. In the end I am sure with the S13 that I am building up that it will destroy my Sentra in no time once I do it right. But don't expect to half a$$ a S13 and walk me down in my Sentra. It's all about who did what right and who knows how to drive. Back on topic. AWD'ing is so often talked about by dreamers and magazine junkies that its not ussually worth even commenting. The B13 is the best sentra to try this on. The b14 is going to require major cutting and a entirely new rear suspension. At least the B13 shares a lot of its suspension with a GTIR AWD SR20DET.

wherezmytofu · 01-22-2004, 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by driftz240sx

How is there torque curve? I wouldn't think they could launch off the line very well.

fwd front engine, helps alot because it got wieght pusing down the driing wheels

knightrider · 01-22-2004, 12:25 PM

i know a guy doing a full gti-r swap into his sentra. b13 chassis i believe. he got the whole car from japan, we shall see how that goes.

Rennen · 01-22-2004, 12:41 PM

The B13 chassis came in AWD over in Japan. it was the Sunny GTS ATTESA

And there are alot of Pulsar GTi-R AWD's that can be hacked up to fit, but I seriously doubt its a simple matter of "conversion" and alot of custom work would have to be done.

As for SE-Rs being faster than 240s, I drove my friend's stock SpecV at an autocross and got a faster time than my SOHC 240. It definitely felt like it had 50 more hp, and the LSD helped it pull out of the corners well for a FWD car.

-Matt

Chernobyl · 01-22-2004, 01:48 PM

I was comparing stock B13 to stock S13 in my posts above, for anyone wondering..

And for the AWD thing... nothing is too hard if you have a welder

driftz240sx · 01-22-2004, 05:02 PM

I was talking about a 96 se-r not the new ones.

01-21-2004, 04:43 PM	#1
driftz240sx Zilvia Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Tallahassee, FL Age: 38 Posts: 275 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	AWD se-r? My friend says he is going to do an AWD conversion for his 1996 se-r. Is this possible or does it need to be a custom job?

01-22-2004, 04:38 AM	#11
camppain Will never get banned... Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: San Diego CA Age: 45 Posts: 1,510 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	The b13 is way faster than a b15 1/4 times for a b13 stock are as low as 15.1 to 15.7 b15's stock are 16.3 (not to sure could be higher in this) to 16.7. B14's go from 15.9- 16.3 I ran a 16.1 when I swapped mine to stick auto was a 16.7. And yes a stock b13 will beat a 240 seen it done many many times. Lighter, rev happy and just better at it. Also seen them beat stock s14's esp since those are heavier. And I haven't heard of anyone doing a awd setup on a se-r yet. I frequent the sr20forums. Has not been done yet at least not to my knowwledge. __________________ -=-99 Sentra SE 5 speed-=- -=-95 240 SE 5 speed-=-

01-22-2004, 12:25 PM	#15
knightrider Zilvia Addict Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: san diego Age: 41 Posts: 618 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	i know a guy doing a full gti-r swap into his sentra. b13 chassis i believe. he got the whole car from japan, we shall see how that goes. __________________ Drift_ Into A Mountain Jim Wolf Technology Stock CA18DET-SR T25-greddy FMIC-JWT SR Lightened FLywheel-300zxTTclutch-SR20DET JWT tuned Ecu

01-22-2004, 12:41 PM	#16
Rennen Zilvia Addict Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Stafford, VA Age: 42 Posts: 882 Trader Rating: (0) Rides Gallery: Rennen Feedback Score: 0 reviews	The B13 chassis came in AWD over in Japan. it was the Sunny GTS ATTESA And there are alot of Pulsar GTi-R AWD's that can be hacked up to fit, but I seriously doubt its a simple matter of "conversion" and alot of custom work would have to be done. As for SE-Rs being faster than 240s, I drove my friend's stock SpecV at an autocross and got a faster time than my SOHC 240. It definitely felt like it had 50 more hp, and the LSD helped it pull out of the corners well for a FWD car. -Matt __________________ '89 Nissan 240SX fastback: #23 DSP/RallyMod2/Track Slut '95 BMW 540i 6 speed: Ultimate Commuting Machine PFM Racing www.solo2.org www.midwest240sx.com

01-21-2004, 05:11 PM	#2
wherezmytofu BANNED Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 1,873 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	yay custom but possible, the se-r used the sr engine, u can get an awd sr with an awd transmission, dump the stock eshasut and stock gas tank, and run the driveshaft and diff. got to custom out he diff..and alot of other stuff but it is "possible", more probuble tho is he is a lieing sack fo shit and u need to curb stomp his teeth out.

01-21-2004, 06:07 PM	#3
driftz240sx Zilvia Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Tallahassee, FL Age: 38 Posts: 275 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	He says his brother has done the conversion and his dad. I think hes a lying sack o shit too. He always has to be right on everything. He thinks that the se-r could woop a 240 on the track and strip. Dont the se-r's have like 125 hp and tq.

01-21-2004, 06:21 PM	#5
Chernobyl Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: May 2003 Location: Denver, CO Age: 42 Posts: 1,563 Trader Rating: (6) Feedback Score: 6 reviews	Stock SER will probably beat a stock 240 in drag and auto-x. Given equal skilled drivers. AWD is better attempted with a Stanza chassis.

01-21-2004, 06:34 PM	#6
driftz240sx Zilvia Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Tallahassee, FL Age: 38 Posts: 275 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	You think a stock se-r could beat a 240 in both? They only have like 125 hp and they are FWD. I told him to go to the last autocrossing but he made some bullshit excuse. If he doesnt go to the next one then hes chicken shit.

01-21-2004, 06:48 PM	#7
Chernobyl Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: May 2003 Location: Denver, CO Age: 42 Posts: 1,563 Trader Rating: (6) Feedback Score: 6 reviews	140-145 hp, and they are lighter. I've driven both, SER is faster stock.

01-21-2004, 07:17 PM	#8
The ROMAN Zilvia Addict Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: NJ Age: 42 Posts: 730 Trader Rating: (2) Feedback Score: 2 reviews	240's are still cooler thou - Dorifto - can't do that with a se-r

01-21-2004, 08:52 PM	#9
wherezmytofu BANNED Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 1,873 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	u mean the current 6 speed se-r? or like the old se-r?

01-22-2004, 04:42 AM	#12
driftz240sx Zilvia Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Tallahassee, FL Age: 38 Posts: 275 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	How is there torque curve? I wouldn't think they could launch off the line very well.

01-22-2004, 07:23 AM	#13
98sr20ve Zilvia Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Hampton Posts: 156 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Stock for stock the SE-R in any of its forms is a pretty good car. They all can be low 15 secs cars with a good driver and 14's is easy with just a few mods. The 240 is clearly a better car to mod extensively. Autocrossing is purely based on driver between the two. I own a NA 190whp Sentra SE and I walk away from mild turbo cars on a roadcourse all the time. I even chase down Z06's and SS's and stuff like that. Light weight helps a lot. In the end I am sure with the S13 that I am building up that it will destroy my Sentra in no time once I do it right. But don't expect to half a$$ a S13 and walk me down in my Sentra. It's all about who did what right and who knows how to drive. Back on topic. AWD'ing is so often talked about by dreamers and magazine junkies that its not ussually worth even commenting. The B13 is the best sentra to try this on. The b14 is going to require major cutting and a entirely new rear suspension. At least the B13 shares a lot of its suspension with a GTIR AWD SR20DET.

01-22-2004, 01:48 PM	#17
Chernobyl Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: May 2003 Location: Denver, CO Age: 42 Posts: 1,563 Trader Rating: (6) Feedback Score: 6 reviews	I was comparing stock B13 to stock S13 in my posts above, for anyone wondering.. And for the AWD thing... nothing is too hard if you have a welder

01-22-2004, 05:02 PM	#18
driftz240sx Zilvia Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Tallahassee, FL Age: 38 Posts: 275 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I was talking about a 96 se-r not the new ones.