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ISTOTOSAO · 01-29-2004, 07:56 PM

.I went to ABCD auto on Tuesday to pick up my vlsd from Rick. I got one with the fins on it to help keep it cool. Also came with the bigger sway bar. As they were disassembling it so I could fit it in my trunk they noticed that the out put shafts did not turn in opposite directions (at all). I took the cover off of it yesterday and saw that it was definitely not a vlsd. Looked at it again today and it looks exactly like an ATS Deftforce. Well I just wanted to share the good news

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Pictures!!

ATS Deftforce:
http://www.zilvia.net/f/showthread.php?t=43211

JasonNagra · 01-30-2004, 01:02 PM

Awesome! I hope I get some surprises if/when I get a clip!

HiPSI · 01-31-2004, 08:44 AM

most clutch type LSD's have similar looking housings so it would be hard to say exactly which one it is without disassembling it... but it's definitely and upgrade of some kind.

matlock · 01-31-2004, 01:31 PM

Awesome, you are lucky. I agree with JasonNagra if and when I get my front clip, I hope it comes with some assorted goodies.

ISTOTOSAO · 02-02-2004, 12:45 PM

Well when we had it apart I looked at the cam housing, and it is a 2way. I installed it yesterday and wow this thing is different. I live in the mountains in so cal. When they say that 2way lsd's aren't good for touge they are not kidding. I have to drive 10 to 20 mph slower around every turn. I hauled a$$ normally. Now I have to drive like normal people. I also spun out for the first time (unintentionally). I was only going 20mph but wow. So here I come DDay 13.

Flybert · 02-02-2004, 06:43 PM

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Originally Posted by 2NRS130

Well when we had it apart I looked at the cam housing, and it is a 2way. I installed it yesterday and wow this thing is different. I live in the mountains in so cal. When they say that 2way lsd's aren't good for touge they are not kidding. I have to drive 10 to 20 mph slower around every turn. I hauled a$$ normally. Now I have to drive like normal people. I also spun out for the first time (unintentionally). I was only going 20mph but wow. So here I come DDay 13.

I have a 2-way and I like mine for TOEGAY!!! It's full lock too. The only time I feel it really sucks is for wet canyon roads. It's not as good as 1.5 way for canyon driving but I still dig it. Canyon drifting on the other hand...

element240 · 02-02-2004, 01:30 PM

cool, so this lsd is more for the drifting oriented drivers?

ISTOTOSAO · 02-02-2004, 01:46 PM

Yes it is most definitely more towards drifting than grip. I love it driving around the city but on the mountain it is a liitle scary. I also haven't gotten used to it yet. With time I will be able to increase my comfort and speed, but for now I am stuck driving like every other normal person on the road. With the bigger stock sway bar it came with it sure is easy to throw the back end out.

TougeRacing · 02-02-2004, 06:53 PM

i dont mean to hijack the thread, but why isnt the 2 way good for touge? and the 1.5 better for touge? also when u say that do u mean in drifting or gripping?

ISTOTOSAO · 02-03-2004, 01:44 PM

I used to be able to fly in to a turn with no problems. Going in to it now the car does not feel as stable. I not as comfortable fluctuating my throttle. I can power out of the turn well but I can't compare it properly because I can't go as fast now. It also just snowed and this thing is crazy!
From what I understand 1.5 way is better for grip because there is less initial torque on the clutch plates in the diff. which means your tires can go diffirent speeds into a turn. which means they won't break away as easily.

01-29-2004, 07:56 PM	#1
ISTOTOSAO Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: SB Mts, CA Age: 43 Posts: 546 Trader Rating: (6) Feedback Score: 6 reviews	Woo Whoo!! Possible Deftforce .I went to ABCD auto on Tuesday to pick up my vlsd from Rick. I got one with the fins on it to help keep it cool. Also came with the bigger sway bar. As they were disassembling it so I could fit it in my trunk they noticed that the out put shafts did not turn in opposite directions (at all). I took the cover off of it yesterday and saw that it was definitely not a vlsd. Looked at it again today and it looks exactly like an ATS Deftforce. Well I just wanted to share the good news

01-30-2004, 01:02 PM	#3
JasonNagra Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Long Beach Posts: 1,349 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Awesome! I hope I get some surprises if/when I get a clip! __________________ http://www.imagestation.com/picture/...f/f9dc7664.jpg Edit: check your link.

01-31-2004, 08:44 AM	#4
HiPSI Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Buford, GA Posts: 522 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	most clutch type LSD's have similar looking housings so it would be hard to say exactly which one it is without disassembling it... but it's definitely and upgrade of some kind. __________________ SR motor set/clip $2500+, FMIC kit $700+, Downpipe $100+, 3" exhaust $500+, Misc install parts $100+, Shop labor for install $1000+ and you still only make 220rwhp for $5000 so what's so CHEAP about the SR swap again?

01-31-2004, 01:31 PM	#5
matlock Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: California Age: 40 Posts: 1,169 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Awesome, you are lucky. I agree with JasonNagra if and when I get my front clip, I hope it comes with some assorted goodies.

02-02-2004, 12:45 PM	#6
ISTOTOSAO Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: SB Mts, CA Age: 43 Posts: 546 Trader Rating: (6) Feedback Score: 6 reviews	Well when we had it apart I looked at the cam housing, and it is a 2way. I installed it yesterday and wow this thing is different. I live in the mountains in so cal. When they say that 2way lsd's aren't good for touge they are not kidding. I have to drive 10 to 20 mph slower around every turn. I hauled a$$ normally. Now I have to drive like normal people. I also spun out for the first time (unintentionally). I was only going 20mph but wow. So here I come DDay 13.

02-02-2004, 01:30 PM	#8
element240 Zilvia Addict Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: MI Age: 39 Posts: 735 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	cool, so this lsd is more for the drifting oriented drivers?

02-02-2004, 01:46 PM	#9
ISTOTOSAO Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: SB Mts, CA Age: 43 Posts: 546 Trader Rating: (6) Feedback Score: 6 reviews	Yes it is most definitely more towards drifting than grip. I love it driving around the city but on the mountain it is a liitle scary. I also haven't gotten used to it yet. With time I will be able to increase my comfort and speed, but for now I am stuck driving like every other normal person on the road. With the bigger stock sway bar it came with it sure is easy to throw the back end out.

02-02-2004, 06:53 PM	#10
TougeRacing Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: CA Posts: 375 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	i dont mean to hijack the thread, but why isnt the 2 way good for touge? and the 1.5 better for touge? also when u say that do u mean in drifting or gripping?

02-03-2004, 01:44 PM	#11
ISTOTOSAO Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: SB Mts, CA Age: 43 Posts: 546 Trader Rating: (6) Feedback Score: 6 reviews	I used to be able to fly in to a turn with no problems. Going in to it now the car does not feel as stable. I not as comfortable fluctuating my throttle. I can power out of the turn well but I can't compare it properly because I can't go as fast now. It also just snowed and this thing is crazy! From what I understand 1.5 way is better for grip because there is less initial torque on the clutch plates in the diff. which means your tires can go diffirent speeds into a turn. which means they won't break away as easily.